Jamie21

28 minutes ago, jmichaeliii said:

Makes sense.  I have always operated under the assumption that if I ask the provider to travel to me and they are amenable to that,  I am covering the venue for the session whether it's a hotel or my home.

I agree with you on that! For most providers ‘in call’ means you the client are going to his normal place of work which he is responsible for. His rate will be all inclusive. ‘Out call’ will be the escort or masseur is visiting you at your place which you are responsible for. Usually that’s your hotel where you are staying or your home. The provider will have an out call rate which is usually more than their in call rate because of the additional travel time and cost for them. 

In none of these scenarios does the cost of providing accommodation arise directly. It’s assumed as a given that whoever is hosting is covering the cost.

When the cost of accommodation does arise is when neither party to the arrangements has a venue to host, which means someone has to book a hotel and take a risk with the cost of that if the other party subsequently flakes. This model is operated by providers who travel. I won’t comment on its practicality because I don’t operate like that. If I get a client who doesn’t want to visit me for an in call and who can’t or won’t host for an out call then the meeting isn’t happening. 

2 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

One has parkinson’s disease.

A few of my clients have this. Massage helps. 
 

Most providers are flexible, ask for what you want. If they are ok to do it they’ll say yes, if not…it’s a ‘no but…’ and you can find an arrangement that works. I have my set offerings but guys ask me for things they want and I’m always happy to vary things up if it’s in my repertoire. 

I have clients who are involved in politics. One of them is a member of our upper chamber (I’m in 🇬🇧). Here it doesn’t matter too much. We don’t have those religious conservatives …they left a few hundred years ago by boat. Not sure where they went 😉. 

It’s a thing. I’ve had clients who like to watch while I massage their wife. It’s usually a cuckold scenario especially if the husband is not well endowed. However it can be challenging to schedule because often it’s the husband’s idea and he wants to surprise his wife. I can’t do surprises so unless he’s prepared to get his wife to speak to me and sign consent forms it can’t happen. Both partners have to definitively be in agreement to the arrangements. 

I prefer clarity. If the time agreed is 1:30 then if it’s an outcall I aim to be there at 1:30. I’ll check the location and for example if I’m visiting his hotel then I’ll get there early and I can sit in the lounge until the time. If the client is coming to me and we agree a 1:30 start time then I’m ready and waiting at 1:30. It’s really simple. The time agreed is the time to be there. If you’re unavoidably late then communicate it. 
 

1 hour ago, DWnyc said:

Each provider may have his own circumstances and preferences. I’ve typically found they welcome during the day bookings as it can be a quiet time for them otherwise, and they’re doing other things at night like filming for their OnlyFans or going on Grindr to find people they actually want to fool around with themselves 😉

Filming for Onlyfans happens daytime too!  Most of my filming is daytime. As the title of the conversation says it’s very difficult to do this work whilst doing a 9 to 5. I know a lot of guys who do sex work and none of them have a conventional 9 to 5 job. Most either do it full time or have a part time job.

You have to be extremely flexible with your schedule doing this job. My week can change very quickly from being almost empty to being full; I can start the day with plans to do my laundry go to the gym and then update my website and end up having done none of those things but will have seen 2 clients. It’s quite random so you get used to changing plans.

What’s annoying as @Jarrod_Uncutsays is the clients who prevaricate about booking. If you’re thinking of booking but your plans aren’t firm then don’t bother asking. Only ask if you’re certain you want to book because the worst thing is holding a time for someone who might book or who is trying to arrange his schedule.

Lengthy discussions about scheduling are usually fruitless. I now don’t bother with the “I might book for x time I’ll let you know” guys. If by the time you make your mind up I’m still free then fine but I’m not going to turn down other things just because you can’t organise your plans. 

They’ll usually use the same name on their Onlyfans as on their advertising for hire if they are for hire. The Onlyfans serves as a shop window. Also they’ll have a Twitter profile associated with their Onlyfans and that often has the links to all their socials (Instagram etc) which would include their RM or other websites if they are for hire. 

However, I know quite a few guys who I’ve worked with either seeing clients or making films, who started out seeing clients and then moved on to doing Onlyfans. Some of them make so much more money on Onlyfans (and travel all the time) that it’s not worth their time seeing clients any more so they cancelled their RM advert and don’t bother advertising for clients in that way. They get clients contacting them directly, are selective and charge a much higher rate. 
 

1 hour ago, NYC Curious said:

he said he needed to see a photo for his protection since I was going to his home.

Don’t book guys that want a picture from you. He doesn’t need one. Find someone who takes the work seriously. You’ll have a much better time. 

24 minutes ago, jmichaeliii said:

Mine doesn't look like this for some reason, but I did find a subscription page, so I am guessing that's the right one?

Probably! If it’s the justforfans subscription page 🙂.

As it’s easier I’ll just add it here 

Oh no! This topic again…pick a side 🙂.

All I will say is that some of my clients tip generously, most don’t. I have no expectations of being tipped but it’s nice when it happens. For those clients who I know tip generously I’m more inclined to say yes to their requested day / time even if it’s not convenient for me. If he’s a generous tipper I’m much more inclined to put myself out to meet him. 

4 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

No pics at all, just a vague video and the model application. 

Ah you probably went to the MassageForHim.com website. There’s a link on there to the justforfans - circled red on this screenshot.

And the justforfans site name is on the bottom of my posts. 

2 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

Taking this off subject, do you have a link to your videos? or your OF page? You seem to be a very busy pornstar. 

It’s at the bottom of all my posts 😂

17 hours ago, ericwinters said:

A bit off-topic, but are the day-use places hard to navigate, logistically speaking? Checking in and out? It looks like they are all third-party bookings, and I want to try day-use, but so far, I've not.

Day use is very easy. I book on their app. I don’t use it for meeting clients because I have my own place but I use it for filming. They’re all hotel rooms that would otherwise be empty. I can cancel up to the last minute without incurring a fee. A few have a very small booking fee but most it’s free to book. Check in is just the same as checking in at the hotel. 

6 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

I feel like this isn’t something one should spring on a provider. And for me I’m very sensitive to scent in general so even a provider wearing a lot of cologne is off putting. 

Well yes, he told me a few days before at the time of booking. I almost forgot too. I’d been to the gym before the session and I kind of routinely finished my session and headed to the showers. Just before I went in the cubicle I remember ‘oh yeah he wants me unshowered…’ so I turned on my heel and left the wet area to get dressed. No deodorant or anything. Then I headed to my studio for his booking. I almost showered there too because it’s a habit before a session… I prefer to be fresh but the client really liked getting his face in my pits and groin area so hey, he’s the customer, if he wants me sweaty that’s what he gets 😂. 

9 hours ago, Proximusss said:

Definitely (again, answering on behalf of a friend). 

Very strange. 🫖

18 hours ago, FaustOust said:

Other than being hygienic,

I know this is switching it around (as in this is the client’s requirement of the provider) but I have a client who doesn’t want me hygienic; he specifically wants me to not shower beforehand, not wear deodorant and be a bit sweaty (maybe after a gym session) when I meet him. He likes that musty sweaty smell. 

34 minutes ago, Proximusss said:

What happens if one does not drink tea? Asking for a friend 🤣

Is that a thing? 

On 5/5/2024 at 1:25 PM, SouthOfTheBorder said:

FYI - the OnlyFans creator being discussed is SantanaXXL.  He is a very successful OF creator in terms of likes, subscribers & income generated. OF “likes” can only be made by subscribers which is an indicator of subscribers/income.  He’s so successful that he maintains a separate site that sells various merchandise - very few OF creators generate enough interest for merchandise sales. 

While his audience may not be the people here - he has a huge audience that supports him.  He routinely films with very popular creators that do fit with more traditional ideas of male beauty & sexy - he doesn’t seem to have any problem getting willing collaborators.  Obviously they know the upside of appearing with him and/or there is an attraction. btw - he has 788,000 followers on Twitter

I tend to have far more respect for anyone that manages to succeed while overcoming societal expectations, discrimination, judgment through their own drive, ambition & despite all the odds.  I can only imagine how many times this guy was told he couldn’t do exactly what he did. 

 

That’s the great thing about guys making their own porn. People of all shapes, sizes and age can make it and find an audience. Studios wouldn’t make it because they’d perceive it as being too niche, probably correctly because most porn features traditionally hot looking guys, but there is a market for non ‘stereotype’ look and it’s fantastic that guys can make it. 

I make porn with a range of different guys, some of them have the usual type of body you see on porn, but others are more average looking. I can see that the films featuring ‘hot’ guys are usually more popular. You generally need at least 2 of 3 things: a hot body, a pretty face, a big cock (or bubble butt). One of the 3 is ok. None of them? That’s a struggle…then we’re talking about a niche market (such as the fat guy, or someone with a tiny cock, or some kind of disability). There will still be a market for those but it’s not as big as the mainstream market. If you want to make money at it you need to pitch to the mainstream or be right at the top of the alternative market.
 

8 hours ago, Shawn Monroe said:

1) PARTICIPATE. 

2) know your own body and have an active idea of what you want out of the experience. Or even baseline, what it takes to get YOU off - not just to get us off (if that’s your thing). That’s ultimately what we are for - to make you happy. 

This. If you’re happy then so am I. 

Most of my clients are middle of the day bookings between 11am and 4pm is most frequently booked. Sometimes it’s also the 5pm to 7pm slot too, which is known in France as Cinq et Sept. The traditional time when men see their mistress after work before they head home to the wife. 

“Hello dear I’ll be home just after 7, it’s been a busy day at the office and the trains are delayed”….
 

14 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

I've had a cuppa with some of my providers. 

I'm sure that's common in the UK, but not Chicago!

It’s the law here. Tea must be provided 

11 hours ago, BuffaloKyle said:

I remember this happening to me one time for like a day. It might just be misreading your location. It should go back to normal for you eventually.

I love the depiction of imperial as ‘normal’ 🙂. 

Height should be in feet and inches.

Distance in miles unless I’m running then it’s in kilometres.

Weight is in imperial (stone) if it’s a body or kilos if it’s on a barbell.

And …Cock size is always in inches…. I know what 8 inches feels like but 20.3 cm is just unknowable.

7 minutes ago, Archangel said:

@Jamie21, if I were you, I’d move on. It’s like playing chess with a pigeon. The pigeon struts all over the board, knocking over the pieces without any concern or a shred of understanding, and shits all over everything in the end. What do you have? Nothing but a shitty chessboard and neither of you had a chance at “winning” – yet the pigeon thinks he had a good time! 

Ha ha there’s shit everywhere…sounds like the time I hadn’t douched properly 😳😳😳. Seriously though I guess it’s not about winning and losing. It’s just about opinions! 

1 minute ago, pubic_assistance said:

I will say this to you @Jamie21 I DO admire people with your talent to look beyond a person's looks and see their worth in their personality.

It wasn’t always the way. I used to be very looks oriented. Then I started to do this sex work and making porn, and I learned that once you got over the initial looks attraction there’s a lot more to sexual attraction than looks. I think it’s about attitude and confidence plus stuff I really can’t describe (if I knew what it was I’d bottle it!). So I think it’s a learned skill. You probably need a bit of an aptitude for it of course but I’m sure it can be learned.