MscleLovr

A true fan. Alas, my devotion is to ‘Frasier’.

Just a simple aside @samhexum but how often do you rewatch ‘The Golden Girls’?

14 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

I’m a fan of honesty.

Me too. But not in this case…

14 hours ago, boredboy96 said:

He is great. A bodybuilder. Smart.…figured out a few things…and think it is better to distance myself.…I met a younger guy who has an amazing body.…he really needs money and is willing to do things. I want to help him. He's hotter and younger. 

Do you @boredboy96 know the saying “you want to have your cake and eat it too”? There’s no harm in that, of course.
 

My advice is to be polite and truthful, but not brutally honest. I’d say something along the lines of  “I’ve just met a guy. I’m getting close to him and I want to see how it goes. If it doesn’t work out, I’ll be sure to contact you again as we always had such good fun together”

2 hours ago, MikeBiDude said:

I don’t do deposits. Maybe I’ll miss out on an occasional escort who requires it…no worries I respect their business model and move on.

IMO this is eminently sensible. It’s always best to go by the principle of Caveat Emptor.

Many years ago, I had a first, fun date with a guy. He suggested he join me on a trip so I bought an airfare for him. Unsurprisingly he became difficult to contact. He postponed 2x; I tried to reschedule but to no avail. Luckily the non-refundable ticket I’d bought was not much money. Afterwards I only ever bought fully refundable tickets. 

14 hours ago, Unicorn said:

I'm glad to be compared to the great Lev Tolstoy (his friends called him Lev).

Not his friends but all Russians actually. Leo is just the Anglicized form of his name. And you were unfavorably compared to Count Tolstoy.

And I thought it impertinent of you @Coolwave35

6 hours ago, Unicorn said:

I'm wondering if any of you have gotten kicked off SA, and for what reason

You wrote at vast length @Unicorn to ask a simple question. There is a particularly extensive thread (74 pages and counting) on Seeking in The Deli already, and people have posted there about being barred or suspended for inappropriate content or language. Why start anew?

10 hours ago, Luv2play said:

I only hope to travel on Christmas Day and only 60 miles to go to dinner…Hopefully the roads will be clear by then

I don’t know where you’re based @Luv2play but isn’t that wildly optimistic?

I may be limited in my interests but a movie about an older heterosexual female and her joys and travails is not important to me.

This is a groundbreaking thread. Gay men argue about decor 😎

On 12/21/2022 at 4:18 AM, Axiom2001 said:

What would you do if a similar situation happened to you?  

On New Year’s Eve, restaurant dinners are costly; those with “special menus” especially so. Hotel rooms are available but at a very high room-rate. And if I was looking for company on NYE (a major public holiday, when people are generally busy with friends or family) I’d expect to pay a lot of money. 
 

@Axiom2001 if you find this particular young man very attractive, I don’t consider his rate ($600 for 2 hours) to be high.

Once, I hired a handsome muscleboy in LA. He had a terrific physique with only 4% body-fat, and he did all that I like in bed…and we went on to do it twice. His rate was $350 an hour/$1000 an evening - and that was 15 years ago!

15 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

he's sucking your dick for money. The money is the most attractive thing in that "relationship"…. I asked him once if he was ever actually turned on by any of the guys….His answer was " I always kept my focus on the money. THAT was definitely the turn on"

Correct.
 

I can recall meeting 3 such guys over the years. All were handsome, muscled, sexually versatile but with a rather masculine vibe in public. They were not actually in need of money. Being paid for sex, however, gave them license to perform acts in private that they’d hesitate to discuss in public.

I still have the memory of a beautiful Italian muscleboy (rather prim and proper in public) just in his briefs and on his knees, “sucking all the cocks” as he’d said he’d do for a group, and taking various loads of cum on his chest and his face. 

What a nice-looking guy! I congratulate you on your good taste @TorontoDrew

When you met him this week, was he in the same great shape shown in his profile pics?

To answer the OP, I don’t see it as “a fantasy”. I’ve hired several men - all fit, young handsome guys with muscled bodies - who defined as ‘straight’.

I never cared about what label people use or how they define themselves. I was only interested in their physical appearance and whether we’d be compatible in bed.

I’m only ever a top. I always want to top a muscleboy. I also enjoy being sucked off to completion by a muscleboy who swallows my load. I enjoyed pounding the muscleboy’s butt and unloading in the muscleboy’s mouth.

I checked they were ready to meet my needs and they checked what I would pay.

 My big thick cock was of little interest to them. My big thick wallet was what mattered. I assume my money met their needs.

As it happens, I ended up with two ‘straight’ fuckbuddies at different times when I was between boyfriends. I saw both for some years. Both liked older men. One was a personal trainer who married and had a baby. Over the years, I ‘trained’ him. He went from giving a dry peck on the cheek as a greeting to becoming a passionate kisser with tongue. He told me how much he loved the taste of cum, and when excited and having his hole pounded, he’d say Fuck me, Daddy. The other had a stunning physique, a fitness model who claimed to have “girlfriends”. Naturally compliant, he craved cock and he became a real cum-hound. He’d want to drain me of several loads. Over time, I took him from shyly confessing his desires and getting naked, to stripping readily to service me (and other men) in group sex settings. He loved being desired by an older man.

15 hours ago, KeepItReal said:

I am not really "enjoying" the experience of seeing him naked on Twitter with random guys in explicit images. I've never really been into porn.

The remedy is simple. Stop watching.

15 hours ago, KeepItReal said:

My regular massage buddy told me he is now doing porn…That may be at the root of my conflicted feelings over this.

If he talks about porn during your next massage, just close the subject politely by saying “Porn bores me. I’m so glad I see you in real life.”

6 hours ago, purplekow said:

Paraphrasing someone.  It is not enough to succeed, your friends must fail.  

That ‘someone’ was Oscar Wilde.

7 hours ago, samhexum said:

“I just bought a new car, I just paid for braces … I have a good wage

I strongly agree with @CuriousByNature. And to my mind, a sense of entitlement doesn’t depend on nationality.

What I cannot understand is why a woman in a well-paid job would have so little in savings (admittedly after buying ‘a new car’ and ‘braces’) that she’d worry about being out $370 for a few days.

7 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

exactly what the street psychic in London said so I gave the equivalent to her already!

That was only right @Coolwave35! Being psychic, she’d have spent the money before she met you.

It’s your business @Jarrod_Uncut, you are free to charge whatever you want.
 

Hotel rooms do indeed vary very widely in price. Those in desirable locations and those with attractive amenities command a higher price. And, as you’ve noted, there is seasonality in demand. 
 

Personally I prefer 4-5* hotels. I’m very loyal to particular hotels where I get excellent service, my likes and dislikes are known, and my whims are catered for. Also I get a much better room-rate than a casual visitor.

How all the factors behind the hotel business and pricing will translate into your business model, I do not know.
 

I wish you well. Doubtless you will inform us over the coming months how this works out for you.

Actually this is not that recent a phenomenon.
 

I think it was 15 years ago that I learned that a major airline had a 24/7 crisis line for its staff who got into any such trouble. An executive of the airline surprised me by saying that a great number of incidents occurred in the US (Chicago was a particular hotspot) and that the majority of callers (victims of these assaults) were men. 

@mike carey is correct in his supposition. There are only 31,000 hotel rooms in Qatar. Also, Qatari society is conservative; hence the alcohol ban. 
 

Staying in Dubai - a short flight (or longer drive) away - offers more nightlife, restaurants etc with alcohol available in the hotels.

8 hours ago, Quincy_7 said:

why is Dubai seemingly a male prostitute Mecca?

An unfortunate choice of words.
 

There are undoubtedly many fit young men who go to Dubai at this time of year for the Winter sun…and the ability to earn money discreetly. Some define themselves as personal trainers, some as actors and models, and some may also be escorts.
 

But I emphasise that discretion is paramount. Public displays of affection and being dressed skimpily are frowned upon. Hotel restaurants will serve alcohol to foreigners but getting drunk is very much a no-no.

It’s merely an anecdote but some years back, I heard from a friend that a fellow member of our gym (an escort) was indiscreet on a visit to Dubai and became involved in an argument with his local client. I don’t know what, if anything, happened to the client. I do know that our fellow gym-member was arrested and held for some hours prior to deportation. Consular assistance was NOT forthcoming. 

2 hours ago, Coolwave35 said:

accidentally

Did you mean to send more @Coolwave35?

Now I appreciate why you spend money on parties with hot male strippers - it’s so much more rational 😊

11 hours ago, Unicorn said:

I'm still having trouble opening up his photos…It seems like an unusual place for a gay influencer to live....

Could it possibly be that he thinks you’re an out-of-state stalker @Unicorn?

11 hours ago, Unicorn said:

Well, he has enough photos on his Facebook pages and Google Images to keep me busy....

And that may be a further problem @Unicorn He may have heard of your formidable reputation for onanistic behavior and not wish to be masturbated over. He’s an “influencer” (as you acknowledged), not a paper towel 😎

1 hour ago, rustyrex said:

I just contacted an old provider to meet up and he and I couldn’t get our schedules to work.  He asked me for $100

As you’ve only met him once before, do NOT send money. If you want to make a charitable donation, send it to a reputable charity. 

40 minutes ago, kaboom35 said:

Maybe I’m heartless

No, you’re not heartless. You’re simply being sensible. 

Don’t say “sorry” @Dchan In my view, you’re not asking enough questions.

8 minutes ago, Dchan said:

If you are really straight would you advertise?

My answer, not his: Yes because it’s easy money…if a gay guy wants to suck me off or just gets pounded in the ass by me

9 minutes ago, Dchan said:

Can I ask him not to smoke before? Would that help?

You can ask but what do you do if he does not comply? If he cleans his teeth after smoking and uses mouthwash, you may not notice it. Whether it helps is your decision and yours only.

Personally I’d be more concerned about his limitations and saying ‘Kissing/Depends’ would be a deal-breaker for me.
 

Have you politely discussed your specific desires and wishes with him in advance of your date?

5 hours ago, Becket said:

Is my fear irrational? 

Not at all. You’d be completely safe PROVIDED you do nothing that could be deemed gay.
 

I’m thinking of the European guy who, walking through a busy bar, brushed against the butt of another man. Displeasure was voiced, police summoned and the European was arrested and jailed. Heterosexual couples kissing on the beach have at times also been arrested. 

7 hours ago, asian sensatin said:

english muscleboy sounds very intriguing. Does he still escort?

He never advertised so he didn’t view himself as an escort 😎

We see each other very occasionally now “for old times sake”. He’s still handsome and has a great body…but strangely has never found a boyfriend.