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I’d worry that it might encourage him to show up in search of “bigger bucks” I guess you’d have to be ready to say out loud: “No, I made a date with your son - He’s in his mid-20s - I’m not dating his middle-aged Dad” 😎

Dear Lord, this thread deserves some sort of award. When did setting up a date become so complicated? Some of the replies here have been worthy, some not so much. And some responses are so lengthy - rather like lawyers’ letters - that their paragraphs deserve to be numbered 😎

I understood you both ways @Luv2play even if the second time was a bit messier. I’m quite happy being just a top. I have to be really aroused by, and keen on, a hot guy before I suck cock. Yet I’ve had various guys tell me I’m very good at it. I think it’s because I’ve always paid very close attention to what guys do, their techniques and pacing, when they suck me off. If a guy tells me he doesn’t like the taste of cum, I don’t get as much pleasure from being sucked off as I hate having to think about pulling out before climax. The key to my heart really is won by a guy fellating me to completion. As much as I love erupting in a warm mouth and a guy swallowing my load, I also love the guy continuing to play with my cock and balls after climax. Bonus points go to the man who licks my cock clean and lovingly takes every last drop.

I don’t know the man…but reading his succinct and polite replies above, rebutting some of the earlier comments, I find him impressive.

I’m not sure it’s a “quandary” or that things have got worse. I feel it’s always been difficult to set up dates Not wanting to waste anyone’s time, when I was interested in meeting a new guy…. I simply stated succinctly what I like to do and what I enjoy having done to me. And then I’d ask Will we be compatible? On agreement, I had the excitement of getting ready for a first date.

Thank you for your observations @coriolis888. My friend’s Will was properly drawn up 40 years ago but not updated since. And I’m advised by 2 law firms (our very expensive family lawyers and a second specialist firm dealing with contested estates) and a Counsel who is an acknowledged expert in this area. Of course, the law advances along with societal changes. What is now advised by my family lawyers is a long, signed and witnessed statement (kept with but separate from my Will) detailing why various relatives and friends are NOT included in the Will. As a second ‘safety measure’, various close relations/friends and regularly-supported charities are given nominal bequests of $1000 and $5000 to demonstrate that they were considered but deemed worthy of a relatively small sum only. All this is now recommended to defeat speculative claims. Without going too far off-topic, what has shocked me the most is how that old maxim “Possession is nine-tenths of the Law’ can be exploited ruthlessly by distant cousins (seizing assets, selling valuables, occupying property etc) when they had no lawful title. And to answer your last point: No, when rival claimants contest a Will, the estate assets may not be used in the first instance. (Perhaps it’s different in your jurisdiction? This involves assets held in the US and UK). It’s stressful but I can afford to pay all the bills. What I appreciated from the specialist firm and the expert Counsel is that both were pragmatic and said straightaway ’this is going to cost you $1million to defend, and if you lose $2million. Are you happy to spend that much?’ It has brought home to me how important it is that all gay couples should get married or have a legal partnership. It may be the only way to protect each other in the event of one partner’s death.

No, absolutely not. I’d just ask the guy in advance about any dietary constraints (vegan, gluten-free etc) You might check your plans with the guy first. I always preferred to get physical before eating, and so work up an appetite (and I had bottoms thank me for being considerate).

I’m shocked…shocked at all the cynicism displayed here. If his pics are accurate, he's a great looking young man. So he hates time-wasters? I do too. For that physique, the rate seems reasonable. All I’d want to know (if I were single and looking) is what does he do, and what does he allow to be done to him 😜

I’ve known this to happen a few times. For me, it occurred with two working guys and, as @DrownedBoy observed, it happened (also twice) in relationships. One guy was a Slovak muscleboy. We were very compatible for several years. He liked fit older men and he preferred to bottom (I’m a top only) and enjoyed a good pounding. Also, as he put it, he ”loved to suck cock and swallow’ (after topping, I like to lie back and unload in a warm mouth). It was intense and very physical. But he was good company too so I took him on several longhaul vacations and I learned a great deal about him. I knew he could be difficult - he liked being treated as a ‘princess’ (his term) and being paid for, but I was happy to pay for everything - and I knew that he really had no close friends. Or to be precise, he had friends but he argued with each in turn and broke up with them. There was a point when he had no friends and we were discussing our next overseas trip. He suddenly said Yes but demanded a multiple of what I’d paid previously. When I queried this, he lost his temper. He raged about how much work it was for him. I tried to placate him by calmly saying ‘I’ll just take it as No, you don’t want to come to (luxury resort for Winter sun)…’ This seemed to enrage him more, and he let loose with a string of insults. I terminated our talk but he didn’t apologize the next day so that was it. Another guy was an Italian muscleboy. He was handsome with the best physique (pecs, 8pack) and he was very discreet about being an eager bottom. He prized being ‘masculine’ and in great shape. He made all the running in our relationship: giving me gifts, saying ‘I love you’ and telling me he wanted me to be his boyfriend. We had an intense first year. I liked to work up an appetite by topping him before dinner, and we’d repeat after dinner, and on waking he’d fellate me to completion before breakfast. He had keys to my place and slept over 4-5 nights a week. Towards the end of the first year, during a relaxed and pleasant evening, I commented he hadn’t sucked me off in the last two mornings. He said it was natural for sex to decline in a relationship so I “shouldn’t expect to make love 3x a night, once a night was good”. Well, it unravelled messily over the next 10 months. It turned out that despite his looks, he’d never had a boyfriend before (red flag?) and without telling me, he had anonymous sex (I later learned his big secret - he had the psychological kink that he enjoyed being humiliated and used by fat strangers or a group)

To get back to the OP’s question… I feel there may well be a drop in demand for all personal services. But older men are more likely to be well-established financially and therefore prove to be reliable clients. Older men may, like me, be of a certain age and more concerned to spend more of their income while they still can. Enjoying life and all its myriad pleasures is my main goal.

Not to squabble but you’re neglecting to mention ‘cost-push inflation’ which we haven’t seen for some time. Like many others here (I assume), my equity holdings have fallen in value. I will add to them from cash very gradually as I suspect this volatility will persist. Meantime, my inflation-proofed investments have gone up in value…and I think they will go higher as I expect inflation will be more of a problem than many believe.

I’ve done that. Guys who enjoy cleaning and are efficient do exist. As men, they often find it difficult to be taken seriously as a cleaner. One guy who did a weekly clean for me one Summer was a tourist, staying with friends. So he wanted cash-in-hand. He was quite flirty and worked stripped down to his briefs. We had fun together once (scratched an itch but no repeat). The other man was a law student who took a year off to travel before joining a firm. I gave him ‘room & board’ in exchange for cleaning my apartment. No cash changed hands as he shared my bed nightly and I took him on several trips with me (very thorough cleaner, decent kisser, greedy cocksucker).

Well, I hope you wrote a ‘Thank You’ note afterwards to express your appreciation.

Obviously, there’s a much greater number of guys if you travel into NYC. So just to clarify…You want to date someone tonight, you want to host in Eastern LI, and he has to be very muscular? What might work for you is a Search on this site. I recall there was a regular sex party on LI but I recall neither the name nor the location.

I can’t help with your enquiry but you certainly have great taste when it comes to a fit-bodied man @PragueMen

I remember Sean in San Diego from way back then. He was easy to contact and equally eager to please on a date. Of course, his hairstyle is rather different now (as is mine from years ago).

My two cents (as a client, not a provider) for the OP…. I organized quite a few such events/parties over the years. (I assume you’re essentially having a small group for a sex party, and not seeking another guy for a 3some where you split the cost of a provider’s time). You need to ensure you have a good mix of hobbyists, ie nice guys who will play well together and be unselfish, with a mix of skills in bed. Then you need to find providers with a complementary set of skills to mesh with you and the other men. While such events can make for an amazingly erotic time extending over several hours, I cannot stress enough THAT IT IS A LOT OF WORK. You’ll be surprised how much time you will need to invest in first interviewing the other ‘hobbyists’ and planning. You need to do this so you can assure the working guys that it will all go well. My own experience was that other hobbyists can be shy or reluctant to confide what fetish or kink they enjoy. Working guys always wanted to know the other workers and what the men were expecting. I always took a suite in a large hotel and checked in a couple of hours early, not to relax but to make sure everything was set up properly (ordering more glasses, wine & bottles of water, getting extra pillows, lots of extra towels etc) - it’s not a good idea to order room service after the fun has started! Again my experience was that providers can work the group well. It was always better when the clients had different skills/desires. And you need to set rules in advance (eg no drugs, cum only on a guy’s face or chest) to meet the stated preferences of the providers. It worked best with 2 clients & 3 providers or 3 clients & 3-4 providers. I had a lot of fun playing with another guy who loved to rim a bubble butt and another (surprisingly handsome) client who loved to watch others have sex. As I’m a lazy, selfish top, I invited 3-4 muscleboys (1-2 bottom, 2 fully versatile). I used to state a start time, but allow a 15/20 minute window, as there’s always a late arrival. I stipulated guys should strip down to white briefs on arrival so we could chat easily…I used to invite the best cocksucker I knew so that he’d ‘break the ice’ by sucking all the cocks in turn. And to the OP, it will be a very horny and memorable evening…but it will also be very expensive 😎

When you encounter one, you will know. And believe me: you will be thrilled. Just as I was by a blond muscleboy who, while sucking me, reflexively came hands-free as my spurts hit the back of his throat.

I guess it depends on where you live or, more precisely, on where you’re obtaining the massage. I’m rather ‘old school’ about gratuities. It makes sense to me to be generous (1) when any service-provider goes ‘above and beyond’ to ensure that I receive excellent service. (2) equally it’s unnecessary to tip if the service is routine AND the service-provider is an individual who sets the rates. (I was brought up NOT to tip a business-owner as it was considered then to be insulting). (3) If the service is only OK but the provider is working in a spa or hotel where the establishment collects the rate, I’d add a routine gratuity. If the service is bad, however, I’d leave a zero tip…and I’m prepared to tell the provider why.

With a handsome face and a great physique, he could be really successful. He’s taken the first step in monetizing his assets already. Since he needs money, how hard would it be to learn to suck dick and swallow loads? From reading this thread, it’s obvious there are many guys willing to let him “learn on the job”.

No. They would be quoting Samuel Johnson. London, however, is a good choice if you live centrally and have a sizeable income. Then there is a huge range of cuisines in the restaurants as well as top-quality theatre and classical music.

I know young men who vape but it’s rare nowadays to find a smoker (of weed or tobacco). How did you discover this? Have you met him?

Apparently I grunt. Usually it’s as I climax. I’ve been told twice by bottoms that they find it sexy (which might say more about them than me).

I agree with a lot of what @pubic_assistance wrote. I enjoyed visiting Uruguay 5x but the last time was 12 years ago. I had great vacations at the beach by staying in Jose Ignacio. While I too disliked the built-up Punta del Este, I’d recommend Jose Ignacio for charm, beautiful beaches and good restaurants. But don’t think that it’s cheap: the prices in season back then often rivalled the South of France. Nonetheless, quality matched the prices; both were high. I felt Jose Ignacio was what East Hampton was like in the 1960s (according to my parents’ reminiscing). It felt very safe. Often the beach houses were very smart, yet left empty and unlocked. There was a small crime wave when I was there last: a band of Brazilian criminals had drive overland and robbed stores at gunpoint etc, but the local police (visible police cars parked on the main entry roads) assured me they were hunting them. i have no first-hand knowledge but an Argentine woman, whose elderly parents lived in Montevideo, told me there was a lot of low level crime there. It had worsened in the previous years to such an extent that they had considered moving back to Buenos Aires. Incidentally I was unaware that the ferry crossing was now so rapid, as @TruthBTold stated, that you could get to Buenos Aires in 15 minutes. When I made the crossing several times, it took some hours.

Pity there isn’t a “Dicks Wanted” section in the LA Times classified ads anymore 😎