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Wdym “real”? I’ve had several experiences with amateur massage providers on grindr as have others on this thread. Yea, they’re not licensed or professional but if you’re looking for body contact, not everyone is a fraud and you can root out the fake guys with some diligence. How did that hat taste?

The time a guy pulled a knife and threatened to shoot me.

Jarrod is unhappy about something.
”Dog bites man”
It ain’t news.

I actually don't enjoy getting sucked, so I don't care.  I do loved being rimmed/eaten out.  But unfortunately it seems very few providers do that.  (Or rather, quite  few inquiries I've made, it's one of their few limitations.)

Sir, this is not a Wendy's.

Agree

Oh please drop this stupid term.

I am afraid you entirely miss the point. It has nothing to do with human behaviour and certainly not with my convenience. It is a matter of linguistics. Language relies on mutually agreed-upon rules and shared definitions. We need conventions like these, as a universal user manual for communication to allow us to turn raw thoughts into structured messages that others can easily process and understand. That's all.

If I decide to identify as a tree, will that make me a tree? Mmm okay... 
A masseur is supposed to give massages. A prostitute is a sex worker. You know exactly what I mean. 

Ah look at you. Responding.

I think a few people do it because they see it as a cheaper way to arrange sex. Sometimes it just happens naturally during the session. And I also think some people hire the masseur (as @Jamie21 mentioned) specifically because of that charged “will he or won’t he?” tension—honestly, that anticipation is a huge turn-on. If it goes further, amazing; if it doesn’t, they still get a great massage.

As for me…
I’m pretty new to hiring masseurs, and I mostly book sensual massage. In fact, most of my masseur hires have been strictly sensual/erotic—though there has been MT and HE with most of them, not all. With five different masseurs, it turned into something more: two got very close to sex, and three definitely crossed into sex.

I never went in trying to make it happen. Two of the masseurs actually told me directly that we had great chemistry, and that seemed to unlock things. Both times, we went further than just a massage right from the first meeting—and happened in every meetings thereafter. Neither of them asked for extra money, and both took the initiative.

One of the “very close to sex” masseurs has gotten more and more sexual over subsequent hires. And one of the “more than MT/HE” masseurs started with intensely sensual/erotic massages and then—eventually—turned into full-on bedroom activities.

That’s his business 

how someobdy uses a forum, provided it's within the rules, is their business. your subjective whims or likes aren't forum rules.

What do you search for to find these folks on insta?

Save the personal assessment for PM.
It’s interesting that you choose disparagement over data based engagement.
If you have facts showing I refused to acknowledge being wrong on this issue, cite them. If not, then you’re just substituting assertion for evidence.
I’m happy to address facts. I’m not going to debate unsupported character judgments.
This is a place for adults   If you have something meaningful to add, please do so.   Otherwise, go back to your room and play your video games 
 

You absolutely do bro. you 100% do. 

Let’s be frank…I didn’t say INeffective. I said NOT effective.   There is a difference.   There is a recent study suggesting it has little or no effect of gonorrhea over time (Lancet Effective Diseases Study). If you want to split hairs on the difference, you’re misleading people 

You just sound mad that you came off as unclean. You were the one saying someone who rimmed you wouldn't have fresh breath and this and that. If you are uncomfortable going ass to mouth, there are valid reasons for that like you've said in this comment, but that isn't what you said in your prior comments. You made it about cleanliness and smells and mints, you were not talking about STI transmission till this comment after i called you out on the fact it's weird to let someone rim you if you don't feel clean down there. If you find that tedious, make better points and be more clear in what you mean.
Besides, that very STI transmission is reduced if you've properly cleaned. Giardia is passed via fecal-oral contact. Being properly cleaned out before you let the guy rim you does the same thing as him rinsing after. And you being worried about getting an STI from kissing someone who did ass to mouth with you means you are the one passing the STI to them... Which again, if you know you have something or aren't prepared to have company down there, why invite them to begin with?
You're just showing your own ignorance here. We've all been on the same threads about risk reduction/management here and how much of said risk people are and aren't willing to take on. Don't be obtuse and act like people who have done ass to mouth are guaranteed and asking for STIs.

What do you mean? That absolutely is an issue of cleanliness. There'd only be unpleasant scent transfer to his mouth if your hole wasn't properly cleaned of swamp crotch sweat/B.O./fecal matter before he rimmed you. You ideally should be clean before hand by douching + showering. I don't think you realize how much you're telling on yourself here lol

According to the BLS, the increase in food prices in the NYC region has been relatively stable in the last 3 years, averaging between 2.8 to 5% per year.
If you are paying more, you should shop at a different supermarket.


https://www.bls.gov/regions/northeast/news-release/2026/consumerpriceindex_newyork_20260512.htm 
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You sound like someone who works for Fox Business, selectively pulling statistics that do not reflect the lived experience of people. When prices first go up, many people will try to suck it up and cut their expenses. If it continues, they may seek additional work or ask for a raise, dip into savings. Some professions - largely white collar and manufacturing eventually got raises that have evened it out, but the lower part of the income strata has not. 
This article explains what you would know if you just spoke to like five people in the real world. https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/18/cumulative-inflation-since-2020.html

We all agree that inflation and cost growth were out of control post-2020, but I think @BOZO T CLOWN views "recent" as 2025-2026, and inflation is much lower and more stable now than the worst inflation of 2021-2023.  If one takes "recent" to mean all of post-COVID, then yes prices rose a lot but most of the price increases occurred prior to 2024.
I've observed the same with escort rates.  A lot more $400 rates appeared around 2023, but they haven't climbed much since.  Most that I hire are still around $250-$350.

The griping on this forum over basic supply and demand economics never ceases to amaze me. No one owes you sex for a price only you think is fair. That's up to the person selling their body to decide. Take it or leave it and move on. It's not greed to set a price one can command on the market. Anything less is charity, which is one thing this business isn't.

No.  There is no reason to raise your rates once you hit $300.  It's just sex.  Nothing more, nothing less.  It literally costs the escort nothing but an hour or two of his time.  How much is enough?  You want $500, $1000/hr.  When do we, clients, say enough is enough!  When do we collectively stand up and say, "No!  I'm not paying $400 or $500!

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