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6 hours ago, jackdallas said:

Is it right for escorts to ask for payment before and what do you do when they cannot perform?

You joined earlier today and this is your first post?  I suggest searching the forum for previous threads on this topic as this question has been discussed so much that I'm not sure what else there is to say.  You'll find some who think it's entirely reasonable to pay in advance (or pay a deposit in advance), and others who don't.

As to what to do when you pay in advance and then the escort fails to deliver as promised, unless the guy offers a full or partial refund you are out your money. 

Messaged via Rentmen's platform, or by text directly to them?

I'm less likely to think the lack of response is about you being blacklisted than something else such as: a) they haven't seen your message yet; b) they are simply busy; c) your initial message didn't interest them for whatever reason; d) they are actually advertising to promote their porn and not trying to get clients.

18 minutes ago, WilliamM said:

I was unemployed for eleven months until I found my forever job in in September 2982..

While I agree with you,  long term unemployment  probably lends to depression especially for large families 

 

 

 

 

 

Are you a time traveler? 

1 hour ago, Hlparx said:

His current model is PPV if you’re not actively rebilling.  If you are rebilling, you can purchase access early or wait roughly 7-10 days for eventual release as rebilling gets you access to the video.

Interesting model, but does he actually keep his word?  I've subscribed to a number of well known porn performers and a lot of them fail to deliver what they promise.  Only a few actually seemed to understand the notion that to get people to want to subscribe for more than a month you actually have to post some worthwhile content during the preceding month.  Posting a still photo with an erection with a tease along the lines of, "Good morning.  What would you do with this?" isn't interesting after the first time.  30 second clips with offers to pay $20 to see the full video aren't interesting.  Of the guys I've subscribed to, only Manuel Skye, Rhyheim Shabazz and Rafael Alencar managed their pages in a way that kept me around for at least a while.  Maybe it's just me -- maybe there are a lot of men who don't mind paying $10/month (or more) to see some still photos and extremely short clips.  To me, that should be what's on someone's alternative free page to entice people to pay for a subscription. 

41 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

Thanks! He lived in London, we did a few films together. Initially when he hadn’t done the face reveal. He’s great fun and has his head screwed on so he’s obviously making a great success of his filming career. 

Yes, I remember his earliest videos didn't show his face.  He's quite the looker and seems to enjoy bottoming a lot with his scene partners. 

I know this might get the ire of some, but I frequently use a fork and knife for the first few bites of pizza because it's too hot to pick up and frequently is kind of droopy until the tip is eaten.  I agree that the remainder should be eaten by hand.

Who cares when someone chooses to eat cereal, if they like it?  The real issue is that Kellogg's cereals are significantly overpriced, a trend that started a long time ago.  If one wants cereal for dinner (or breakfast), one should look for alternative brands that don't cost so much.  Or, even better, learn to appreciate hot oats.  One can get high quality oats for 10-15 cents per ounce, which is much less expensive than any brand of boxed, dry cereal.  Quite frankly, a lot of food choices are less expensive than boxed cereal and more nutritious as well given that most boxed cereal is just some form of grain and sugar (with vitamins added so they can claim to be a healthful choice).

Make sure your phone is either not with you or is turned off or your travels will be tracked by your phone.  (Okay, I guess you could leave your phone on and turn on airplane mode, but I think it would be safest just to turn it off.)

I hired some escorts who only started working as escorts in their late thirties, so for me it's sort of laughable to have a discussion that men in their forties are past their sell-by date and better have already started their transition plan.

My short answer is "no."

Does he also advertise as an escort on Rentmen or somewhere else?  If not, then this query belongs in the Spa, not the Deli. 

I don't think the problem is that some providers charge too much.  It's easy enough to say "no, thanks" if the price is too high for you and let the man in question get his income from other people.  The biggest problem is the waste of time involved.  When rates were posted with ads, it was easy to weed out people above one's budget without having to contact them first.  It doesn't help that some guys really aren't interested in working as escorts but instead are using Rentmen to drive OF/JFF subscriptions.  Who knew that back in the early 2000s that that would be the golden age for escorts and clients to be able to find one another online with more information available and more websites to use.

17 hours ago, Harryinny said:

Some nice bodies there!

It's okay to be robbed as long as the robbers have hot bodies?  Not sure what the intent of your post was, but it comes across as highly inappropriate to me.

Sometimes tech algorithms get it right.  This was suggested on my YouTube feed -- a cute young man playing Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata (3rd Movement) while not wearing a shirt.  I clicked on the video because of the image but stayed for the musicianship (and the torso, too). 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgbk9tyJVyA

I just saw your review on Rentmasseur because I noticed Enzoy's ad in my area and am interested in him.  (I assume it's your review since the experience sounds too similar to be someone else and it was posted on the same date you posted here.) 

I can understand being upset that a provider hits you up on a platform like Grindr acting like they are into you when in fact they are looking for business, but I would urge anyone who is considering hiring Enzoy to look at the review and Enzoy's response on Rentmasseur.  I didn't find his response to be nonsensical, and I'm not sure how you can get a massage for the better part of the hour and only pay $50 unless you're somewhere outside of the USA where the cost of living is a lot lower.  It isn't really clear from your review what you discussed paying for full service, but I assume it wasn't $50.  Did he want $250 for full service, or did you short him his fee (as he alleges) and he wanted a lot more than that for full service?

Note that this guy advertises on both Rentmen and Rentmasseur and given this client's expectation, it makes sense it was posted in the Deli despite it referencing the guy's name on Rentmasseur.  His Rentmen link is https://rentmen.eu/The_enzo

Maybe this thread should be moved to the Lounge so as not to give the impression that these guys are advertising as escorts (unless someone receives a reply to the contrary).

14 hours ago, The Dude said:

This has happened more than once, where a guy says he can’t meet me at a certain time because he’ll be at the gym.  Why would you turn down a paying client for something you can do the other 23 fracking hours of the day?

Makes no sense to me.

Flip your question around: Why would you turn down an opportunity to be with a guy during the other 23 hours of the day?  Do you really only have one specific hour during which you can meet?

Your question assumes that someone else should change his schedule to accommodate you, and it's just as valid to question why you can't change your schedule to accommodate him.

I've met him socially and he seems like a nice enough guy, though I don't really know him.  There are a lot of "drug addicts" where I live and he certainly doesn't come across like that, by which I mean he was perfectly capable of carrying on a normal conversation, didn't appear to be under the influence during the few hours we were at the same function, and didn't have any physical characteristics that one might associate with heavy drug use (by which I mean he didn't look unhealthy, and many guys who have a major drug habit look haggard at a relatively young age).  I don't know what PNP means to him, but if you are interested in him and want to make sure that drugs aren't part of your interaction then have a conversation with him before booking him. 

I would be surprised if he had OF/JFF content.  I think that anyone listing on Rentmen or Rentmasseur is likely to mention that they have said content available since it would increase their income.

Maybe this 1995 video?

centerspread 3: the fetish edition - iafd.com - internet adult film database

WWW.IAFD.COM

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The Internet Adult Film Database is an on-line searchable database of over 727,534 adult movies titles and 218,001...

At least, that's the only video listed in that database that has those two performers paired with each other.  Then again, I found the scene you are referencing on Gayforit.eu and they are the only two performers in the scene and the video linked above has someone else in the scene with them.

I'm not posting this because I think any provide should offer a discount.  In fact, I'd argue that it would be silly to offer a discount unless you don't have enough business and want to try it to see if it brings in new clients.  However, there are other businesses that offer discounts depending on day of the week or time of day: theaters, restaurants, bars, airlines, and I'm sure others that aren't immediately coming to mind.  I just thought I'd offer this because I don't think it's necessarily a rude suggestion that offering a discount on a certain day or time of day might make business sense.  What is rude is a client asking for a discount when there's no indication that one is available, but even then I realize that while this is true in the USA bartering is not considered bad in many other countries. 

Many years ago my employer instituted a policy whereby supervisors rarely gave perfect rankings the equivalent of five stars on review websites).  Their rational was that no employee was perfect and there was always something someone could work on.  I personally found the change a bit insulting, having routinely received perfect annual reviews in the past that were now some perfect scores and some four out of five rankings, but I didn't care too much since the reviews had no impact on salary.

Of course the actual text of a review is where the real rating is provided.  Some people will give 4 stars even though they have nothing bad to say.  Some people give 5 stars but then have a few minor complaints in the review.  And sometimes the really bad reviews have more to do with the reviewer than the establishment.  Of course Rentmen hiding the text of reviews from people in the USA who aren't using VPN makes their review system less helpful to casual users who might not realize that there are actually written reviews there.

I've never written a review on Rentmen because I am not a premium member.  My experience on Yelp is that businesses frequently do reach out if I give them a bad or mediocre review.  One restaurant owner wrote me a nasty reply to my review that compared her relatively expensive restaurant with mediocre food to other establishments in the area by twisting my words around and alleging that I always write negative reviews (which isn't true; the majority of my reviews on Yelp are quite positive as I typically only write reviews when something is either very good or very bad).  I blasted back at her that she should focus less on responding to reviews and more on actually learning how to cook.  Another time, some random person wrote me an insulting and threatening message after I posted a negative review of a drag show (it wasn't the business owner, so I assume she just knew someone in the show).  It was so over-the-top that I reported her to Yelp (she was actually threatening to assault me if she ever visited San Francisco and could find me).  So there is a potential downside to writing anything but praise online which does skew the average towards the positive.

I, too, find the feedback provided here a lot more valuable. 

I'm not too much of a stickler on time as long as the overall experience was good.  To be blunt, I'd rather be shorted 10 minutes by someone who gave a good or even just decent massage who then connected with me enough to get me off versus someone who gave a technically better massage who then couldn't hide his disinterest in me while performing a perfunctory hand job at the end of the full-length session.  If I really just want a good technical massage and want the entire hour or 90 minutes of that, then I carefully select a masseur who clearly has massage skills.  A lot of guys on rentmasseur are fairly unskilled at massage so clients are rolling the dice there in terms of the guy being trained unless he specifically indicates said training in his ad.

Another blunt observation (not saying this is you):  Some clients here seem to want a full escort experience with a guy they hire as a masseur at a rate higher than an average massage but lower than most escorts.  If you end up moving into more than manual happy ending territory 20 minutes into the massage it's probably an indication that the guy is actually offering "escort lite" sessions, by which I mean he'll try to get you off quickly and get you out in 30-45 minutes at 50-75% of an escort rate.

I have never really understood this kind of gossip.  Unless someone is being outed who is otherwise a homophobe -- particularly a homophobe in a position to help enact anti-gay laws -- doesn't the person deserve privacy and a right to tell their own story whenever and however they want?  Even if it's just gossip about someone's sexual activity and not their sexual orientation, I don't see what business it is for other people to discuss. 

I get the "wish fulfillment" aspect of it, but if I was someone famous I know I wouldn't want people who don't even know me gossiping about my sex life.