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When you communicated with him, did he refuse to give you any useful information about what services he provides and would basically only communicate in one word answers and emojis? Cause i tried to book with him today and that's all i could get out of him. Was absolutely infuriating.

Interesting... That makes it extra silly then that he's got all that attitude about not unlocking his pics when they aren't even him. Pretty standard catfish behavior.

With reverse image search, I found the Instagram account of the influencer/model/personal trainer who the public pics (except maybe the dick pics) really belong to. So you're saying he's not that guy? If he's handsome and body ridiculous, curious why he needs to use someone else's pics 🤔

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No experience with them, but i too have noticed sometimes stumbling upon a profile that's been around a long time but have never seen before and seems to not have reviews/many profile views. I kind of think it's RMs algorithm. There's the front page that just shows guys who pay to be boosted, but a TON of other profiles that you only see if you specifically search for "Nearby Profiles" or do a more specific search with specific parameters/traits selected. Lot of more hot regular guys and not guys who are the most model looking and already have social media/OnlyFans fame like the front page always is. I've noticed it's rare for those guys to ever have a post about them on this forum and if you're the one to make the first post, there's usually only one or two people who have tried them, if that. Sometimes we have to be the one to take the plunge lol.

Agreed, i have no problem doing a deposit if they're a provider who's fairly reputable/trustworthy and it's needed for them to go book the hotel room I'm meeting them at. I only really even need the first point you listed to be fine doing a deposit. I know one provider i hire whenever he's in my city. He saves money on a hotel by staying with an old friend he knows who lives in my city. So he does not host there. I don't host either, so he and i always get a room somewhere for our meets. Only other reason i can think of is certain providers maybe travel with a lot of personal or expensive belongings (one regular of mine always brings a decent amount of his jewelry for when he dresses up to go out places when he isn't seeing clients) and they don't trust having new clients over in the room with their stuff. My favorite traveling provider always does AirB&B instead of hotel though, so he hosts, has places he can put his personal/valuable stuff, can make sure there's parking for the client, no having to deal with everyone seeing us in a lobby together or dealing with front desk staff, etc. It's a really great way to do it. 1. True, but like you said in the last sentence, in their scenario the money is for things they need. A client wasting (what should be) extra fun money they can afford to spend, or lose if a provider flakes vs a provider losing out on actual needed income from their job (whether they have savings or not) if a client flakes, these are not equal or basically the same thing at all. 2. Yeah that is also true (I'm one of those people too), but again, us missing out on a little fun which isn't necessary for us to support our basic needs is not the same as providers losing income. No matter how you split it, the burden is on the provider more than it is on us. That doesn't mean we can't be annoyed when a provider flakes on us though! It's annoying, but that's all it is. They're the ones losing more when they get flaked on.

I agree with others that the annoyance of dealing with flakes cuts both ways, but to me it's obviously worse for the provider. As when a client flakes on them they are losing money, which they obviously use to pay their bills and rent. A flaking client at the wrong time could mean a missed rent payment or other bill for the provider. For us clients, a flaking provider just means "ugh i got ready to bottom for nothing" (even though you could just go get on Grindr/Sniffies or go wake your husband up) or "ugh, i'm still horny, i guess i just have to get myself off tonight instead". They run a business and we're just having fun. So this is worse for one party than the other, it doesn't cut both ways equally.

Yeah pretty sure i also remember seeing this guy under that name before. Seems to have a lot of reviews on RM but hopefully someone's got some experiences with him and can let us know what's up. He's coming to my town later this month.

You're good! Me too. I actually would love to participate in something like what this profile is offering, but yeah this one seems a liiiiiiittle bit suspicious 😆. I would need someone here to co-sign first.

To be fair, this assumes he's only looking to film with typically attractive guys, and I've definitely seen OnlyFans pages of guys who do what this guy claims he's doing where it's not always that same type of guy on the table. Plenty of normal guys/average joes on OnlyFans with subscribers too. Audiences for people without a chiseled jaw and 6-8 pack abs do exist.

Maybe they've exhausted their local supply of guys 😆

Probably both if i had to guess. Probably also could mean available for hire by porn studios. But i would think the two examples you gave probably happen more often.

It wouldn't bother me personally. I wouldn't be obligated to go say hi or talk to them or workout with them every time I'm there. It's very much a "it's only weird if you make it weird" thing in my opinion.

I feel like it's fairly valid considering so many of the messages they get don't go anywhere or are just people wanting to see their pics or sext basically. I'd be more with you on the "prima donna" vibe thing when it's like them saying how VIP/High Class/Expensive/Premium/etc they are like another comment up thread said. Even then though, prima donna vibe is an annoyance, i don't feel it's a real direct indicator they're bad at what they do or are "avoid at all costs". To me "serious inquiries only" is just them listing their own red flags they have for us clients (usually from experience). They're simply requesting efficiency and follow through in the booking process. A real red flag for this would be like mentioned up thread like the provider taking hours/days to respond to texts or constantly shifting an agreed upon meet around when trying to schedule or negotiate with them. That indicates poor time management skill on their part which also would imply to me they might be late or even miss a scheduled meet if they're constantly moving meets around or over booking themself. Which then would also imply maybe you're not getting them at full energy/capability if they did show up. It's an actual performance/product quality indicator.

When i've hired multiple providers at once. So far it's always been they all got an equal rate based on the rate of the main provider i was in initial contact with. I hired 3 guys for a 6 hand massage before. There was a main guy who i contacted through his solo page which directly mentioned he had 2 friends available for 4 or 6 hand massage he was working with (both of whom also had their own individual ads linked). The total i paid was just the main guys solo rate times 3. I paid the main guy the total and he gave the other two their share, mainly just so i didn't have to do 3 different CashApp transactions. All three of them were doing this while in the same city together. So it seemed which ever of the guys got the initial contact was the one who set the group rate, but i'd guess regardless they were all charging the same solo rate anyway to not undercut each other since they're friends. If i was hiring multiple guys independently of each other, just for simplicity sake, i probably would still offer an equal split. Just whatever the average I'm used to paying is (which in my city is 300-400, so somewhere around there) times 3 or however many i was hiring and they could take it or leave it for one of the slots in the group. I wouldn't bother negotiating separate rates with the individual guys because i would just assume they'd talk with each other and the two getting less would likely want what the guy getting the most was getting. So i feel like why not just skip that part lol. And paying them unevenly wouldn't feel right to me anyway.

Isn't this just a mild annoyance rather than an actual red flag? I feel like half the stuff in this thread are mild annoyances at best and not actual signs of a scammer or bad bedroom experience.

Everyone has different preferences. For example, i think what he's got looks great. "Disfiguring adornments" is really over the top to me lol. I love tattoos personally. Literally the only ones i actively don't like and can be very put off by are face tattoos (and even with those, i can handle a very small one if it's a guy I'm not dating). I've never seen tattoos the way I'm noticing most on here do as being something that are ugly and ruin the body. I really love how tattoos can play with the positive and negative space of the body. Even the old guy in the pic posted above, i personally think he's rocking that shit and has some really interesting pieces on him. But yeah, obviously everybody isn't into that 🤷‍♂️. But as far as what goes through their heads when they get these, it's usually "wow i love this artists work, i want that on me" or "this piece really encapsulates where I'm at in life right now" or "this will balance out the tat i have on my left side" and stuff like that. If you had any genuine curiosity for what goes into tattoo thought process. Yeah i messaged him earlier to see if he has any near future travel plans to my city and the first thing i got was an auto reply with his OnlyFans link in it. Though, he later did reply and confirmed he'll be in my city eventually. His number was in the auto-reply, but i can't say if he's down to actually meet and do stuff till he's in my city. Hopefully you or someone else can confirm for us 🙏

Guys like this make me want to move to San Jose 🥵

Confirmed! Two of my favorite regular providers are Filipinos and they indeed consistently have the cleanest holes I've ever rimmed. 🤣

Aaaand he's back! 👀

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Small update. Ended up not being able to schedule with him, i was too slow and he got booked up quickly. I chatted with him for a bit though, seems like a nice guy. Will make sure i set something up next time he's in L.A. if he's back soon.

From my understanding, the youth call this "Heteroflexible" and it's basically just situational horniness ("a hole is a hole" scenario) and not based on any actual attraction. Those notions aren't absurd, but they just lack nuance/detail. In my opinion. With all the orientation/labels talk in general. I think examples like you gave here is where the sexual orientation labels we currently have have become out dated. I generally was of the mind that if you as a man do anything with guys more than your one time "experiment" free pass everyone gets then you're at the very least, not able to claim being totally straight because if you like it enough to do it again... Doesn't necessarily mean you get flung to the polar opposite end of the spectrum and are suddenly homosexual, but you can't still stick to "i'm 100% straight, bro, i only like women (even though i get serviced by men regularly)" either. Just because it's "service" doesn't negate that it's still sexual interactions with other men. Straight means being exclusively into women, so... Yeah there's just no way around that. However, those guys do fall somewhere in the middle, and i think the real answer is that the middle is a lot bigger than just "bisexual". In more recent years i've met guys who've explained their sexual and romantic feelings and there's definitely some guys who have more going on than just being bi. I've noticed some young people differentiate between sexual attraction/activity and romantic attraction. To some those are two different things that aren't always tied to each other. So when you do that, certain kinds of people suddenly make more sense. A lot of these "straight" guys are effectively heteroflexible or bisexual but are romantically hetero-romantic (are only romantically attracted/exclusively date the opposite gender), which is basically what the Romans were doing back in the day where they'd all be banging each other on the battle field for convenience and social dominance amongst each other and then come home to their wives and that was just normal. I've known guys who are homoflexible as well and known people who are bisexual but homo-romantic too. There are even people who identify as Asexual (which in the human perspective just means they aren't into sex at all), but those people obviously usually still have romantic attraction that can be to the same, opposite, or all genders (homo-romantic, hetero-romantic, or bi-romantic respectively) as well. I recently learned of a term for people who are physically attracted specifically to gender presentation (as in which gender the person they're attracted to LOOKS like and not which gender they are anatomically). Which would apply to all those men who litter my Grindr grid who identify as straight but are only on the app for fem-boys and trans women for example. One friend of mine is like this, he likes cis-gender women but also trans women, and with trans women he's ok with if they haven't had the bottom surgery yet if they otherwise can pass as a woman. What's down there isn't relevant to his attraction to them, it's just about the overall presentation being "woman". Gay/bi men attracted to trans men who haven't had bottom surgery yet are in that same boat. I can already feel a lot of people here who are old school collectively rolling their eyes and going "ugh that's a bunch of young people B.S., let's just have no labels!" but i personally don't like the idea of having no labels and i also think it's a lazy notion. Trying to find something in a grocery store where the aisles and the products all have no labels is an objectively terrible experience if you're trying to find something specific, or even just browsing. Having no labels beyond gay/bi/straight is like if zoologists stopped at categorizing Mammals with just Primates, and then didn't go further to differentiate between Humans, Chimpanzees, Gorillas, and Orangutans cause they didn't feel like having to learn more. The only reason why labeling things is annoying and makes us feel put in a box is because the labels we do have aren't appropriate and are too general, but the concept of labels overall isn't actually the problem. When things are identified thoroughly and correctly, it doesn't feel like a box you're being incorrectly stuffed into. Which then negates any confusion and anxiety that comes from feeling like you're in the wrong box. But we as a society aren't ready for that. Lot of people to this day can barely acknowledge the bi in the gay/bi/straight trichotomy as is 🤣

Did you end up meeting up with this guy? How was it? 👀

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