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I'm not a provider so i can't fully relate, but just in general. I feel like those cities you listed just aren't places where most guys who have the financial means to hire regularly are at. Especially guys with resources for 3+ hour sessions or overnights or multi day bookings. I feel like Arkansas is not where those people reside. RM boosting it's popularity doesn't fix that, and possibly only would draw potential unwanted attention (law enforcement/government) to the site. Which could lead to possible shutdown, much like Craigslist or rent boy and such. And yeah with Grindr and other hookup apps, things are different than the Craigslist days. Majority of people are not going to hookup apps to hire, they go there specifically to have actual real hookups. So of course they're going to be annoyed and block you when you mention them having to spend. Asking that of people on those apps kinda hits the same note as guys on Grindr who are just there to promote their OnlyFans (people don't like that). To them, you're basically doing the same thing as those annoying sugar daddy spam texts. People are on those apps looking for someone who's actually attracted to them to hook up with, not to spend money. There's of course some guys who are gen who hire off Grindr/hookup apps, but that's just not going to be the norm on those apps. Especially in this economy. You'd probably be better off advertising on Twitter/X. Post content and get into the porn side of the Twitter algorithm, grow a following, and people will DM you or you can link them to your RM page or other website. I've seen tons of OnlyFans creators who do financial domination and they find clients for that on Twitter via DMs or from diverting followers to Telegram for example. I can't speak to how big the findom market is, but it's one that can be done regardless of distance because not all of those people want/need the in person element. I've also seen one or two OnlyFans creators on Twitter who just have their RM link right in their Twitter bio (which then advertises it to anyone who stumbles upon your profile, for free). But also yeah this doesn't really work unless you make porn content to post.

I can't explicitly recommend him cause i didn't get to try him myself when he was in L.A. this past Summer, but this guy exists: https://rent.men/Maxstarkey This thread on him exists as well, a few people vouched for him in the thread. To recap what i said there, I spoke to him in DMs at the time and he sends face pics and nudes (but quickly unsends them as he is very DL/Discreet because of his job apparently) and told me in the RM DMs he's Korean. Seems like a nice guy from the chats i had with him but i didn't get to see him cause of schedule. Looks like he's currently in New York though. He has a lot more reviews on his RM page now compared to when this thread was new.

I've experienced this before during a 4 hand massage a long time ago. One guy couldn't get hard when it got time for the fun part and left early and i continued with the other guy solo, still gave the other guy a little something cause he still did the massage though. Wasn't a big deal at all. Stuff happens and performers sometimes have off days or might have personal life stuff on their mind, and like all the rest of us, we still gotta show up for work and do the best we can (but sometimes it's too much and you just gotta call out/leave early). I've had experiences where they don't do everything they agreed on in messages/texts, and i've had experiences where they just weren't good at "performing" in the sense of pretending to be into it/into me/helping to create "chemistry". Which is somewhat a buzzkill obviously. There's plenty of threads on this forum about bad experiences, flakes, no shows, etc (both from the client and the provider perspective). However, i've also had FANTASTIC experiences as well. It's all just part of the game. Just because they are hired professionals doesn't mean it will always go perfectly every time. When you do this hobby, you are taking a chance on what the outcome will be. Sounds like your first two tries weren't great, but like with a lot of things, you have to sift through the bad to find the good, and the good usually makes the search worth it.

Unless the provider forced the client to leave him a 5 star review in front of him under duress, why would the client leave a glowing review for a bad experience? Did they say why they gave a 5 star review if they hated it and warned you to stay away? I guess maybe one of those "i feel bad leaving a bad review even though i got a horrible experience" guys, now that i think about it.

They do it because they think it makes them look more bro/cool/masculine, which is usually how they're trying really hard to advertise and present themselves as. Because, in their defense, that's what a lot of clients are looking for out of them.

Which is unfortunate. I'm noticing other countries in Europe are starting to do a similar thing. I admittedly was more so thinking US Domestic, where we still have the option to opt out for now.

Everything we acquiesce to now opens the door for further privacy over reach later. So, while you're right on this particular use case of facial recognition. It's more so a principle of the matter thing to me. And also in general, even if what you describe is how they use it and nothing more. We've been in the era of data breaches and leaks for like 15+ years now. And our government isn't exactly secure with how they handle our data lately. So i think that's a valid concern. It's one of those things where it's not a big deal and it's fine, until suddenly it's not.

Makes me wonder if the provider is talking about you to this other client often. How else would the other client know when you've had sessions with the provider (i guess unless you leave a new review after every session)?

Having the funds for hiring but not having transportation is a very odd choice of priorities, i gotta say.

The most recent reviewer, if you click Read All on his profiles reviews he's left, has reviews for 3 other providers dating back to 2020. That reviewer is probably real, which would make me think this provider is probably real as well.

I would imagine they'd probably/maybe tell some of their longest time regulars they were retiring (just so they know or maybe even get a "one last time" in), but for the general public I'd think they would just delete their ad and vanish.

Seconding this. These age/ID requirements haven't hit my state yet, but just going off of where this is all heading, i got a VPN and started using crypto for Rentmen a little while ago just to already be ahead of it. For VPNs, i like Proton, but there's many of them that are good (and also many that are basically spyware/malware, so be careful!). For anyone shopping around for VPNs, the biggest thing to look for is ones that say they do not keep logs and have 3rd party code audits to prove such. Both Proton and Windscribe (and others) do this.

I've definitely noticed it a lot on RM profiles. And even Grindr/Sniffies profile. PNP is definitely on the rise. I've also noticed a lot of providers are also "plugs"/selling various things. More providers list it because more and more people are asking it of them i would assume, and it lets them subtly advertise their other menu so to speak.

I've always wondered what that place is like. I see it on Sniffies all the time but i similarly think I'd be a bit too timid to make good use of that kind of scenario.

Very interesting! That makes sense. Huh, yeah I've only ever been asked for a pic once and was too nervous/self conscious to provide it so i ended up not seeing that guy. I did just very recently fill in some basic stats on RM and have noticed slightly better response when i inquire with a provider. So this checks out. This is good. Very succinct, gives all info about you needed and totally puts the ball in their court to possibly effectively have something locked in within the next 2 or 3 messages. With my messages i usually don't list a preferred time i want to meet cause i assume they have a busier schedule than me and part of me wants to be accomodating for them. But in hindsight, listing a preferred day/time maybe then makes it easier for them to be like "yes i'm free then, let's do it" or "i'm not free then but i'm free X hours or the day before that". So still seems more efficient the way you do it.

Maybe this is a preference thing, but I've never described myself to the providers unless they have asked me to (only one has ever asked me anything about my appearance/age before meeting), and i didn't have any of that listed on my profile until very recently either. If that's something that providers like/prefer then that's news to me haha. If I'm messaging them for the first time through text though, and we didn't already have an RM exchange. I usually start with "Hi i saw your ad on RM and was interested in booking. What are your rates and services?" This is also what i start with if messaging them via RM. ". Then i just go with the flow from there.

Yeah i'm enjoying it while it lasts, but it's almost definitely gonna go away. I think it's just another aspect of the "give them a taste, take it away, and then tell them to subscribe to Premium" thing they do.

As is your right, but i see this sentiment a lot here and this isn't the threat or scare tactic for providers that you think it is. There's vastly more of us clients than there are providers. They do not miss you if you decide to take your business elsewhere because they've got dozens of other people visiting their profiles and actually making a move to book. Any business operating in person is going to prioritize the people who may actually buy something over someone who walks by and window shops every day for a month straight but never comes into the store, and they don't notice if finally one day you go walk by some other store.

Forgot to circle back to this. But i had tried to set something up with him. We found neither of us could host, and i think that made him lose interest. Despite my offering to book a room once he got back to town (he was in my city when i initially messaged him but then randomly appeared in another city when he finally replied, but now he's back in my city again). He also offered to send a face pic on RM (but would not do so through text), but when i asked him to send it he never replied. I checked back in with him thinking he just got busy, he said hey, then when i asked if he ever got around to sending the face pic, he ghosted again. So... 🤷‍♂️. Take that however you will.

My opinion i had further up thread (when the topic was a bit more "who is flaking worse for" oriented) was the following: Though i do like PoundMeOnaPlane's take above as well. It's more keep the peace and it was very fun to read. But overall i do still stick with my original take. Flaking sucks for both parties, but it's not equal.

Unless it's EVERYONE all being in agreement, then that still means it's entirely subjective. Not just to a degree, but fully 🤷‍♂️

You put a whole lot of words in their mouth there. They aren't saying they will fuck anything that moves, they're saying your idea of what is attractive vs "ordinary" is subjective and not the same for everyone else and that you aren't the taste maker who decides your type is THE type. People have different types and different favorite cuisines, to go to the food metaphor you guys are using. What is your McDonald's is someone else's Michelin Star restaurant (and vice versa). And yes, plenty of modern women absolutely do prefer a dad bod guy over some red pilled muscle head. You're effectively calling all women gold diggers, give them a little more credit than that.

I don't know. This forum only has a little under 22,000 members according to the All Members list. Only a fraction of which are likely active users. That guys RM profile has over twice the amount of profile views than this forum has total members, let alone currently active members. It's more than possible the couple dozen people who left RM reviews fall into the bucket of people that aren't on this forum. I think this forum is a smaller portion of the RM user base than we probably think it is.

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I find this to be particularly true for the 20-24 age range guys for sure. Not all of them though, some of them are cool. But a lot of them, especially ones who found out about providing after having a social media and/or OnlyFans following definitely conduct themselves in this in a way that other providers don't. Their intent is to run through as many of us as they can to "get the bag up". They generally lack the "i'm a pleaser" and genuine care for the client having a good time aspect that a lot of providers also have in addition to the business acumen. Obviously what us providers/clients do is a business relationship, but these Instagram/OnlyFans famous guys tend to not do a good job at creating the illusion that they're into the client or creating a friendly/sexy atmosphere. It's just "i have X zillion followers/subscribers, i'm hot, i'm here, and you can touch me/i'll touch you" and they think that's all they have to do. In their defense though, i've seen some of them figure out that other piece of the puzzle after their first couple months at this. A couple annoyed clients and bad reviews and mingling with other providers has some of them learn a better way to do this and they do much better after that. But some of them don't figure that out (or actively choose to not be better) and i think those are the guys who get stuck with a revolving door of one-timers.