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Would you call a restaurant with a dress code unprofessional? You only see this as unprofessional because you're miffed you aren't being let in to the restaurant, not because the practice is actually unprofessional. We aren't owed service, even in this industry, and businesses have the right to refuse service to whomever. Just go to a different restaurant without a dress code. The ones that have been around longer than 18-24 years usually don't have one.

I think it's just because most clients aren't paying users of RentMen to be able to leave reviews. I've known providers seeing multiple clients a week who have been on RM for a year+ with no reviews. Amount of reviews has no correlation to how many people they're seeing.

Agreed. I think those terms always mean what they mean personally, but for sure what gets murky is how and when people choose to apply them in practice. There's always exceptions and "in the heat of the moment" variation and what not.

Very true. I'm kind of like that in my own sex life. I'm verse/bottom, but the times i bottom versus top are entirely dependent on the other guy and if he's my "type" to want to top. The times i want to top it's generally only for guys smaller/shorter than me. So a big tall guy who wants me to top him would almost never get that from me and would thus perceive me as a verse/bottom who never actually tops or as a lying total bottom 😆, which would only be true from his perspective cause he's not there when I'm absolutely dicking down some hot Short King. So it's kind of about who's perspective we're looking at it from in that way and other circumstantial stuff like what Jamie21 described where he's like "i'm happy to bottom if asked, but most assume and want me to top, so 🤷‍♂️" lol.

In my experience. "Verse/Top" means someone mostly tops but also will bottom occasionally. "Verse/Bottom" means someone mostly bottoms but also will top occasionally. "Versatile" is 50/50 true verse flip fuck city, no problem doing either whenever.

Definitely have seen some of the porn/OnlyFans famous guys have prices like that before. There are some rich people/fans paying it, so it is what it is. One persons "outrageous" is another persons "i don't even have to think twice" 🤷‍♂️. It's been brought up on similar threads, but some providers are totally fine having a handful of clients paying 1000 over having a dozen clients paying 200. Especially makes sense since providing likely isn't the main source of income for guys like him. Modeling, content, social media, public appearances, etc probably are.

No experience with him, but reverse image search pulls up a Twitter page (which he has 3 of, the first one i clicked has him following his other two accounts) which links an OnlyFans page. All his content pages mention him being Giant and him being 6'8"/6'9". Seems to be his thing. His RM ad doesn't link to any of those social media/OF profiles though (and forum rule says i can't post the links here because of that), so that would be a red flag to me that he's using the content creators pics. But also the one review his page does have is from an RM member since 2016 who's reviewed many many other providers (we probably could use this guys intel here, he hires a ton from the looks of it 😆). So that would lead me to think that review is real at least, and his review says "Super hot, tall, handsome, hung, nice and fun guy." and his client profile says he's 6'1". For a 6'1" guy to consider someone else tall, he's got to be at least 6'4" i'd think. Me personally, this would be enough for me to take the plunge if i was interested. Or i'd at least probably message that RM reviewer and feel i could trust what he had to say.

That sucks it didn't work out well with him. You did the right thing for sure. I've experienced guys like him before both in hiring and just hooking up off Grindr/apps. Young, hot, likely very in demand and juggling tons of options. They want you to book and make it happen as quickly as possible and they don't like answering too many questions or getting into details. Anything more than the bare minimum to confirm and execute is uninteresting and a waste of time to them. If you ask too many questions or don't jump through their weird hoops they will bail and pick up the next available client/potential hookup (whom they're likely in various stages of booking others simultaneously to you and they just go see whichever one locks it in first and leave the others hanging because they have so many options it doesn't matter). Dudes like this are just incredibly flakey. As far as the weird sending the small fee to their friend thing. I've also experienced that before. One guy i used to see regularly would book a motel for us and on our first couple meets he always had me Zelle the motel room deposit of $50-75 to a different person each time of the first like 3 or 4 times i met him, but I'd bring him cash for the full rate. After a while he had me send the motel booking deposits direct to him. I felt just as suspicious about it at first but followed through anyway as you did. It ended up being fine, so i didn't question it after the first time. I never asked who those other people were, but if i had to assume i figure it was either someone he knew at the motel who'd hold a room for him (it's his go to spot for hosting clients who can't host him and for filming OnlyFans/Twitter content with collabs who come to him) or it was going to friends/family he was trying to spread the wealth to. Luckily this guy wasn't flakey and performs well in the session, but yeah i was super weirded out by the "send 50 to my friend first" thing too.

I do believe he's on RentMen and also has a thread on him here. https://rent.men/AlexDuvallFit https://www.companyofmen.org/topic/153098-411-alexduvallfit-in-nyc/#comment-2315532

He's also Heffe on RentMen. https://rent.men/Heffe Have seen him pop up on the front page when he was in my town last. I don't have experience with him though. Seems very well reviewed though.

Both. Even when it gets very good with a long time regular it can also sometimes get repetitive, which can happen in relationships too. So i gotta change things up and keep it fresh after a while. So when i was hiring more actively i had regulars i loved seeing repeatedly. They'd get about 60% of my spending. 20% would go to trying new guys on my own. And the other 20% would go to a mix where me and my regulars who like group fun would find new guys to try together, usually either friends/colleagues of theirs or guys i found on RentMen. There would sometimes be overlap there where i'd send him some guys RM link and he's like "oh i know him/worked with him before" or he sends me some guy and it ends up being someone who was already on my wishlist.

Yeah cosplay kink has always been a thing, but it being Spiderman specifically being the most popular is definitely it's own specific thing. It initially popped up during the Covid era OnlyFans boom and it's now considered over done/played out, but simultaneously still highly popular. So a lot of people still do it. There's a lot of Nightwing (who is the adult version of Robin, Batman's sidekick) cosplay kink as well. Nightwing is often drawn in comic books with a purposefully plump round butt, so he's become the new big thing for cosplay/kink. Though still nowhere near as popular as Spiderman.

Agree with you both. I've done the same in terms of making my own choice on a provider by provider basis (i have no always/never send a deposit rule) and having criteria needing to be met to feel ok sending a deposit. And because of that, I have not been burned by providers who've asked for a deposit. So i really can't relate to how intensely against deposits some here are. However, as evidenced by the 7 million threads on this topic there are on this forum, I'm completely aware we're in the minority there 😅. At the end of the day though, i think deposits themselves aren't actually the issue, unprofessionalism is. Like Jamie21 said. A bad provider will be bad regardless of if they ask for a deposit or not, and most of the clients here who are super against deposits also are generally aware of the red flags to look out for for a bad hire. So it really makes me wonder what these providers are doing that where nothing else about their ad is tipping off their red flag radar.

Definitely not for most of us here, but dudes like this I've seen be fairly popular on Twitter and OnlyFans. Guys like this appeal to those who are the crossover point between having an intense straight guys fetish, are into muscle worship, enjoy give but non reciprocated oral, like being degraded, and like being cash pigs. People that check all/most of those boxes simultaneously love these dudes. My friend is one of them and i make fun of him for it constantly 😆

No, he's just making a joke out of it. Border patrol always asks too many questions if they get the slightest hint of suspicion because they're trying to catch you in a lie they think you're telling them, they're not looking for "is this guy gay?". They're looking for how many layers deep does your possible lie go and for a string to pull where the tale they assume you're telling them unravels. Giving them further probable cause to detain you.

I've never run into that, but I'm also personally not into nipple play, so I've never reached for them. But as far as gauging it from the profiles. If it's not listed on the I Am Into's section (where there very much is a specific check box for nipple play), i assume it's something they aren't into or are at the very least neutral about and should be asked for to confirm they're cool with it. Maybe those guys you hired have hyper sensitive nipples to the point that nipple play is painful for them? Kind of like how some guys love when you keep sucking after they cum and other guys it becomes painfully sensitive and you have to stop. I don't know. I actually have this problem from the client perspective, i have a lot of providers both masseur and escort assume i'm into nipple play and start playing with mine while working. It's fairly common and popular, so i get it, but it doesn't do anything for me and i find having to tell them not to bother messing with my nipples to be awkward and momentarily a vibe killer. So definitely better they just not go for it to begin with. So maybe that's how the providers you hired are feeling too?

This is true in that it definitely is firmly against both sites Terms of Service, but I've personally found they don't enforce it unless someone actually uses the Report function. Not saying people should go try it all willy-nilly. But it's, in my past experience, not to the level of merely asking or bringing up the topic gets you instantly flaggged/banned. Maybe it's different and more strict from the model account's perspective in that they can't be the one advertising/soliciting though? OnlyFans specifically does have a list of keywords they don't let you send in a message, like Escort (the message will simply bounce back and say your message contains a banned word but won't tell you which one, but it's usually obvious which word it is and you can re-edit the message and send). But Esc0rt with a "0" rather than an "o" is not on that list. Meet is also one of the words but you can use M33t and get around it last i recall. And discussing it in more subtle ways is even less policed. These sites list rules like that because they have to for liability reasons, but they are not putting in that much effort to enforce them in my experience. This was only like two years ago last time i had a conversation with a creator like that on OF, back before i knew about RM and stuff. But yeah to your point though, for the OP. Twitter doesn't care at all, that site is the wild west haha. A lot of creators I've also noticed have Telegram channels you can message them on to buy content (which cuts out the OF middle man taking 20% of the creators sales), but I'd imagine it's also much easier there to set up other transactions with them if you have the proximity and the means.

In my experience, asking if they're available for meet ups seems to be the code for that. I've seen some porn/onlyfans creators on twitter who specifically put "i don't do meet ups" on their profile bios. And i've known others who don't have that to be hire-able despite not being on RM and sites like that. You also probably could ask about if they're into meeting "gen"/"generous" guys. That's the more usual code i see on Grindr and hook up apps for.

It's a thing, but definitely not new (though a bit surprised they did it without you asking them for that specifically). They're probably just playing to the "masc bro" aesthetic/vibe a lot of people are into. Certain clothing that plays to that is backwards baseball caps and keeping your socks on during sex.

I haven't had almost any of these issues either. A small handful of providers asking for partial deposit here and there sure, or even one or two asked for payment up front while in person right before starting the appointment (and they only did this on our first meet but took payment after the session in subsequent meets), but I've never been asked for full upfront payment prior to arriving to the appointment. The other things you've listed definitely are not the norm on RentMen or RentMasseur in my experience.

Gen guys on Grindr/hook up apps scam by usually getting you to message them off platform on Telegram or another messaging app and they try to pull a phishing scam on you or the common Venmo/CashApp scams usually. They never actually meet up or gift you. Not really the same "scam" as guys on RM who actually will meet you and just give lackluster service.

All the usual apps "work". Screening out bots entirely isn't really possible without sites/apps making us verify our identities by uploading our government IDs. Which sites like Discord are currently finding out is a logistical and privacy nightmare. The main sites/apps still seem to be Grindr, Sniffies, and Scruff. But there's also ones new and old like Tinder, Feeld, A4A, Growlr, Archer, and many many others that have varying levels of user base sizes compared to the bigger apps. You can find hook ups on any of them. All will still have bots and other annoying things like too many ads. Just is part of the game unless you pay money (and paying money only removes ads/unlocks features to focus on a type of guy you want, there still is no true way to avoid bot profiles other than just using your due diligence/common sense). In my experience, it largely doesn't matter what app/site you use, it's going to be mostly all the same guys on each one just by nature of any given cities local gay community not being big enough to have entire groups of them being only on one app. Most of us who use one app are using many/all of the apps, in my experience. The only time i see new people is when people who have never used the apps finally join out of desperation or when someone who's been in a monogamous relationship becomes single and joins, or when young college age guys join for the first time. I personally get my hookups from Grindr, Sniffies, and Tinder.

Ah that's unfortunate. He may still be filming/banking videos and hasn't started posting them yet. You could message him and ask when the massage content is coming?

This guy does massage content on OnlyFans and Chatterbate (live stream site). When you hire him you can volunteer to be in the content if he has his filming equipment with him when he's in your city too. You'd have to message him for the OnlyFans link cause i don't really use OnlyFans anymore, but I'm pretty sure the screen name is the same or similar to his name on RM from what i remember, but i couldn't find it in a quick search. https://rentmasseur.com/Hogannathaniel

More than i should but not enough to put myself on the street. I only spend money on this that i get from working over time. 2025 was a particularly hard working year and it was also my first full year of hiring so i was mostly still in "oh my god this is new and awesome!" mode. Definitely a good couple grand over the course of last year. I'd be spending like @savantsav if i could though, they're living their best life 😆