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It wouldn't bother me personally. I wouldn't be obligated to go say hi or talk to them or workout with them every time I'm there. It's very much a "it's only weird if you make it weird" thing in my opinion.

I feel like it's fairly valid considering so many of the messages they get don't go anywhere or are just people wanting to see their pics or sext basically. I'd be more with you on the "prima donna" vibe thing when it's like them saying how VIP/High Class/Expensive/Premium/etc they are like another comment up thread said. Even then though, prima donna vibe is an annoyance, i don't feel it's a real direct indicator they're bad at what they do or are "avoid at all costs". To me "serious inquiries only" is just them listing their own red flags they have for us clients (usually from experience). They're simply requesting efficiency and follow through in the booking process. A real red flag for this would be like mentioned up thread like the provider taking hours/days to respond to texts or constantly shifting an agreed upon meet around when trying to schedule or negotiate with them. That indicates poor time management skill on their part which also would imply to me they might be late or even miss a scheduled meet if they're constantly moving meets around or over booking themself. Which then would also imply maybe you're not getting them at full energy/capability if they did show up. It's an actual performance/product quality indicator.

When i've hired multiple providers at once. So far it's always been they all got an equal rate based on the rate of the main provider i was in initial contact with. I hired 3 guys for a 6 hand massage before. There was a main guy who i contacted through his solo page which directly mentioned he had 2 friends available for 4 or 6 hand massage he was working with (both of whom also had their own individual ads linked). The total i paid was just the main guys solo rate times 3. I paid the main guy the total and he gave the other two their share, mainly just so i didn't have to do 3 different CashApp transactions. All three of them were doing this while in the same city together. So it seemed which ever of the guys got the initial contact was the one who set the group rate, but i'd guess regardless they were all charging the same solo rate anyway to not undercut each other since they're friends. If i was hiring multiple guys independently of each other, just for simplicity sake, i probably would still offer an equal split. Just whatever the average I'm used to paying is (which in my city is 300-400, so somewhere around there) times 3 or however many i was hiring and they could take it or leave it for one of the slots in the group. I wouldn't bother negotiating separate rates with the individual guys because i would just assume they'd talk with each other and the two getting less would likely want what the guy getting the most was getting. So i feel like why not just skip that part lol. And paying them unevenly wouldn't feel right to me anyway.

Isn't this just a mild annoyance rather than an actual red flag? I feel like half the stuff in this thread are mild annoyances at best and not actual signs of a scammer or bad bedroom experience.

Everyone has different preferences. For example, i think what he's got looks great. "Disfiguring adornments" is really over the top to me lol. I love tattoos personally. Literally the only ones i actively don't like and can be very put off by are face tattoos (and even with those, i can handle a very small one if it's a guy I'm not dating). I've never seen tattoos the way I'm noticing most on here do as being something that are ugly and ruin the body. I really love how tattoos can play with the positive and negative space of the body. Even the old guy in the pic posted above, i personally think he's rocking that shit and has some really interesting pieces on him. But yeah, obviously everybody isn't into that 🤷‍♂️. But as far as what goes through their heads when they get these, it's usually "wow i love this artists work, i want that on me" or "this piece really encapsulates where I'm at in life right now" or "this will balance out the tat i have on my left side" and stuff like that. If you had any genuine curiosity for what goes into tattoo thought process. Yeah i messaged him earlier to see if he has any near future travel plans to my city and the first thing i got was an auto reply with his OnlyFans link in it. Though, he later did reply and confirmed he'll be in my city eventually. His number was in the auto-reply, but i can't say if he's down to actually meet and do stuff till he's in my city. Hopefully you or someone else can confirm for us 🙏

Guys like this make me want to move to San Jose 🥵

Confirmed! Two of my favorite regular providers are Filipinos and they indeed consistently have the cleanest holes I've ever rimmed. 🤣

Aaaand he's back! 👀

Bump

Small update. Ended up not being able to schedule with him, i was too slow and he got booked up quickly. I chatted with him for a bit though, seems like a nice guy. Will make sure i set something up next time he's in L.A. if he's back soon.

From my understanding, the youth call this "Heteroflexible" and it's basically just situational horniness ("a hole is a hole" scenario) and not based on any actual attraction. Those notions aren't absurd, but they just lack nuance/detail. In my opinion. With all the orientation/labels talk in general. I think examples like you gave here is where the sexual orientation labels we currently have have become out dated. I generally was of the mind that if you as a man do anything with guys more than your one time "experiment" free pass everyone gets then you're at the very least, not able to claim being totally straight because if you like it enough to do it again... Doesn't necessarily mean you get flung to the polar opposite end of the spectrum and are suddenly homosexual, but you can't still stick to "i'm 100% straight, bro, i only like women (even though i get serviced by men regularly)" either. Just because it's "service" doesn't negate that it's still sexual interactions with other men. Straight means being exclusively into women, so... Yeah there's just no way around that. However, those guys do fall somewhere in the middle, and i think the real answer is that the middle is a lot bigger than just "bisexual". In more recent years i've met guys who've explained their sexual and romantic feelings and there's definitely some guys who have more going on than just being bi. I've noticed some young people differentiate between sexual attraction/activity and romantic attraction. To some those are two different things that aren't always tied to each other. So when you do that, certain kinds of people suddenly make more sense. A lot of these "straight" guys are effectively heteroflexible or bisexual but are romantically hetero-romantic (are only romantically attracted/exclusively date the opposite gender), which is basically what the Romans were doing back in the day where they'd all be banging each other on the battle field for convenience and social dominance amongst each other and then come home to their wives and that was just normal. I've known guys who are homoflexible as well and known people who are bisexual but homo-romantic too. There are even people who identify as Asexual (which in the human perspective just means they aren't into sex at all), but those people obviously usually still have romantic attraction that can be to the same, opposite, or all genders (homo-romantic, hetero-romantic, or bi-romantic respectively) as well. I recently learned of a term for people who are physically attracted specifically to gender presentation (as in which gender the person they're attracted to LOOKS like and not which gender they are anatomically). Which would apply to all those men who litter my Grindr grid who identify as straight but are only on the app for fem-boys and trans women for example. One friend of mine is like this, he likes cis-gender women but also trans women, and with trans women he's ok with if they haven't had the bottom surgery yet if they otherwise can pass as a woman. What's down there isn't relevant to his attraction to them, it's just about the overall presentation being "woman". Gay/bi men attracted to trans men who haven't had bottom surgery yet are in that same boat. I can already feel a lot of people here who are old school collectively rolling their eyes and going "ugh that's a bunch of young people B.S., let's just have no labels!" but i personally don't like the idea of having no labels and i also think it's a lazy notion. Trying to find something in a grocery store where the aisles and the products all have no labels is an objectively terrible experience if you're trying to find something specific, or even just browsing. Having no labels beyond gay/bi/straight is like if zoologists stopped at categorizing Mammals with just Primates, and then didn't go further to differentiate between Humans, Chimpanzees, Gorillas, and Orangutans cause they didn't feel like having to learn more. The only reason why labeling things is annoying and makes us feel put in a box is because the labels we do have aren't appropriate and are too general, but the concept of labels overall isn't actually the problem. When things are identified thoroughly and correctly, it doesn't feel like a box you're being incorrectly stuffed into. Which then negates any confusion and anxiety that comes from feeling like you're in the wrong box. But we as a society aren't ready for that. Lot of people to this day can barely acknowledge the bi in the gay/bi/straight trichotomy as is 🤣

Did you end up meeting up with this guy? How was it? 👀

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I ended up messaging him and gave a list of things i was hoping to do with him and then asked if he is down to do those things and his first response was "go ahead and send me a pic of you". So it sounds like he's probably open to doing more things but he's one of those guys where it depends on how passable/attractive the client is like you originally said up thread. I've never sent a provider a pic of myself prior to a meet and he's the first one that's asked me (I've had one similarly aged provider ask how old i was first though). He also quoted me 400/hr (he did not say 100 extra for kissing like he said to LAFreedom though, and kissing was in my list of asks, so that's a slight improvement i guess). If he saw my pic and was down to do everything i asked, that'd be worth it for me personally, but I'm not sure I'm comfortable sending a pic.

Plenty of escorts do just fine financially without barebacking. It's not the necessity in the experience you think it is. Also just because Escorts work to fulfill a clients fantasies doesn't mean they are obligated to cater to all fantasies. They have it in their control to not take on certain risks if they choose not to.

That really is the problem with stuff like this, like how governments are wanting to have tech companies make back doors into encryption for them that they say is so they can stop crimes but obviously they wouldn't stop there (especially when what is considered "crime" can change drastically depending on who's in charge...). It always is presented first with the possible benefit, usually the guise of reducing crime. But it never ever comes without the abuses and overreaches. The former is always used to sneak in the latter and people have to decide how much privacy/rights violations of themselves or others they think they're ok putting up with in exchange for the illusion of being crime free.

Yes i realized after StLouisOct's reply that you guys are talking about a totally different thing than i thought you were. I didn't know hideme had url link that was a magic VPN link that you guys have been passing around the forum that somehow makes the rentmen sites work without needing a proper browser plugin or an app which is how i'm used to using VPNs and why i supplied the experience i have using a full VPN app that doesn't have those limitations you listed. Especially because generally Macs are considered less "techy" or capable than Windows computers. So to me it seemed there's no reason you should be having those issues if i'm able to do it on a Mac, but there may be other issues/factors i'm unaware of at play. Was just trying to help from a more general perspective 🤷‍♂️. Forget i said anything.

Bump. Just curious if anyone's had anymore recent experiences with this guy and if he's improved compared to the experiences listed up thread. His profile is still active, so figured he's still maybe doing stuff.

For what it's worth, i messaged him and he does send a bunch of face pics (no sunglasses) and a nude or two in the DMs on RM, but he un-sends them very quickly. Said he's super discreet because of his day job.

Just stumbled on this profile and then upon this thread. All these new/not super active accounts here vouching for him seems suspicious initially (no offense if y'all are real lol). But a few of the accounts reviewing him on Rentmen are 2 or more year old accounts with plenty of reviews on other providers. So those seem legit at least for this guy. Considering taking the plunge while he's in L.A. the next few days, but we'll see. Will report back if i do.

That's because there's no general consensus on it. Some do, some don't. Some charge extra for it, some don't. You just have to talk to each individual provider about it.

I'm on Mac, so maybe it's different. But a VPN should let you see review text on rent.men in Firefox. It should work on both rentmen sites in either of those browsers. Might depend on the VPN and if it's a standalone app versus a browser plugin though. Mine is a standalone app. So the browser or which rentmen link i use doesn't really matter.

The VPN? "Hide.Me" itself is the website URL. If there's another element i'm missing i wouldn't know though, i use a different VPN personally, but i've heard this one is good too. World's Fastest VPN and Privacy Protection HIDE.ME Hide.me VPN offers privacy protection, wi-fi security, and encryption for a truly private web browser experience, regardless of your location. Try for free!

It was UncutMovieBuff on rentmen.

Well i went ahead and went for it. I saw Jesusaleja last night after speaking with one of the RM reviewers on his page, "Lopez", who had a great time with Jesusaleja. Pics are all real, he's beautiful, and the tool is not photoshopped. It is that big. Biggest I've ever seen in person. So big in fact that i couldn't take it and i tapped out after just a few minutes 😳🫣. It would have been magical if i was properly prepared for that size. If you can handle ones like that he'll definitely give you a great time. If you decide to give him a try, i would say it's important to know that while texting with him to set up is pretty easy and straight forward, he does not speak any English. So he's using a translator app while texting and in person. Maybe it would be a non-issue for anyone who can take ones that size, but i think i needed a slower pace and some extra time so i could adjust to the size and i had no real way to communicate that to him once the action started. So it would have saved me some discomfort/pain if i knew a couple Spanish phrases haha. I absolutely don't hold that against him though, he noticed i was struggling and tried to chill and adjust but i needed him to do so even more and i didn't have the words to convey that to him. Was mainly on me for biting off more than i could chew, and usual language barrier issues. If my schedule permitted i would try him again with that all in mind though. Knowing what to do differently here, the experience would have been drastically better.