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The message he's actually sending, like Venite said, is "buy something or get out". Lots of clients ask to see pics just to get the free porn with no intention of booking. Providers get annoyed by this and they often will not open the photo gallery for you unless you message them first and actually talk to them about possibly hiring them which tells them you are at least serious about maybe hiring. Then they'll open the gallery for you. They want you to actually come into the store and talk to them, not just peep through the window.

Ghosting him just for asking about poppers (no where near as serious as actual hard drugs) seems a bit egregious. You could have just said "no thanks and please don't bring them around me even if just for yourself either" if you were otherwise going to still meet him. Ghost if he had said "nope i'm bringing the poppers anyway!" (which no normal person would have done).

I would have asked is it verification OR deposit, or verification AND deposit. Because those are two different sets of options. I personally have no issue verifying via video call or something. So if they were giving you the choice between verify or deposit, then you opted out without even making a choice (assuming the main thing you were trying to avoid was just the deposit part). As far as the drugs, i personally would have just said "no I'm not interested in any drugs, no need for that and i'd prefer you not be on anything during the session". If they resisted to that at all then yes i'd walk away. But just the mere offer or seeing "PNP available" on their profile isn't inherently an issue to me. No provider I've hired who procures or sells has had an issue with keeping that stuff away from me if i simply asked and none i've hired have ever brought it without me asking. Even those who dabble themselves have never come to a session with me on something and especially don't if i specifically ask them not to. I don't really care what they do in their other personal time or with other clients. I'd have at least asked a follow up question. But that's just me and has been my experience 🤷‍♂️

Anyone hired this guy before and can share experience/opinion? Or does anyone recognize him and remember past names he might have used if he has been reviewed here before? https://rent.men/Josh_BIGmeat

Massage ad doesn't really make a difference. Massage with full service extras/add ons (which can often be covered by "Sensual Massage", and that is on his ad too) being 300-400 still isn't crazy or abnormal in LA. Depends on what you actually asked him for in your message i guess, but yeah if he's specifically quoting you 400 for only therapeutic, that is definitely not a good price. He's charging the twitter/onlyfans model premium, just trying to make as much fast cash as possible.

You're saying this like 400 for 90 min is unreasonable. 300-400 for 1 hour full service is pretty normal in big cities, is it not? Or do you just feel like this guy specifically is not worth that?

My usual go to NY based Top that fits your description recommendation (caveat, as someone who does not live in nor travel to NY, this guy just happens to visit my city every now and then and have seen him multiple times on those visits) is https://rent.men/BenjaminMilliano

Yeah this was the appeal for me way back when i was into OF. Back during the pandemic, OF was the only place i could go to find my hyper specific type of guy doing adult content because my type was outside of the usual conventionally attractive model looking guys and even the acceptable alternatives to that that are now mainstream too, like bears. So i was able to find the exact kind of guys i liked and i could have them do exactly what i wanted them to do. And that was enough advantage over free porn that it was worth certain subscription prices to me. It's especially appealing if you aren't very sexually active and/or aren't already hiring guys for in person fun. I think the audience here is likely heavily biased against finding value or use in OF because basically everyone here are used to in person hiring as clients. If that's the easily available and affordable option to you, then OF is of no use and not worth any of what OF creators charge just for photos/videos. But if you're the more average person who doesn't know about or can't afford hiring providers. OF can be a viable fun activity, especially if you aren't super sexually active yourself and aren't finding what you want in free porn. The free to $15 a month can easily become worth it. But yeah guys starting to ask for 200-500 (or more!) for basic sex tapes happening around the same time i got into hiring is what made me fully ditch OF. If i was going to hit those kinda numbers, hiring providers gives drastically more value for that same price range.

Most providers i've been with it's usually 10-20 minutes of topping with a lot of massage/foreplay/oral before the anal happens. So the whole thing ends up being the hour or 2 hours i booked, but the topping/bottoming is only happening for fairly small portion of the session (which isn't a problem). I've only had one provider top who was a marathon guy. He liked being hired for multi-hour sessions/overnights (obviously for financial reasons), but he likes to start and stop. Kind of like he's edging himself while topping. He usually will cum 3 or so times in a session over the course of a couple hours/a whole night. So it was a good whole night of fucking overall. He'd usually stop if he was getting close to cumming or if he started getting soft and we'd switch to oral for a bit (which always seemed to get him hard again no matter what) or him fingering and spanking me or otherwise playing with my ass. Then he'd get back to topping me for another good while (or two) and then he'd cum for the first time. Then we'd take a little break till he got hard again and then we'd repeat and would just do that in various positions over and over basically till he hit his 3ish load limit and/or till he made me cum. Sometimes I'd get him to cum from oral during the topping breaks. But yeah because of that he was able to do it enough that i eventually came hands free (for the first time), he said he was specifically determined to pound the cum out of me and he did. Even when he seemed to hit his own load limit, he could still get hard again and would keep going with me till he made me cum. I think he only sees one client a day, he's a little more expensive then the norm but totally worth it to me, and i don't see him being able to do that much cumming with multiple people a day from a physical standpoint lol. Was a great experience, it really made me feel like he was an insatiably horny guy and i was just a fleshlight for him to pump as many loads as he could into and i just had to take them all. It was exactly what i wanted.

The thing is there are literally the same thread on this topic that aren't even a couple weeks or at most a few months old. The industry isn't changing that fast. I'd agree with you if the only threads like this were years old.

Agree with JamesB. If it was me i'd give him a heads up and give him the chance to opt out personally. I'd just say "hey i was interested in booking, but we actually know each other from working together at _____, are you cool with having me as a client?" I don't think you need to name yourself unless he specifically asks your name as a follow up, but just let him know where you know him from and designate what the dynamic was. There'd likely be a big difference between this scenario for him if you are just a former co-worker versus say a former manager or former boss. From the sounds of it you were just coworkers, but he wouldn't know that without you telling him.

They have a lot of photo crossover... The face pic on TBrady's profile with sunglasses is the face pic Jockfeet uses on his Twitter. Their profile stats are listed almost identically too. Both 40, 6'4'', 8" dick, etc, etc. More or less the same About Me. Almost all the exact same. Very odd... They might as well just advertise as a couple and share a profile.

One masseur made the massage transitioning from therapeutic to sensual+extras feel less like massage choreography and more like he was just losing focus on the massage and gaining sexual interest in me and exploring/playing with my body for his enjoyment, and i haven't really found others who've done that. It turned me on way more even though i knew he was still performing/doing his thing. I usually don't get aroused during a massage till the masseur actually touches my genitals (mainly because the firm massage pressure on other body parts just draws blood away from the region for me). This guy got me aroused very early because the way he handled the transition made the sensual/sexual tension a lot more palpable because he made it feel like he was the one enjoying me as opposed to where it usually feels like I'm the one receiving the privilege to engage with the ultra hot masseur (which of course, obviously is what is happening). But because of the latter, I'm always aware they're just doing what they gotta do (even when they're good at it). But this guy really made it feel like he was the one having the fun and it was just really great.

If you can't handle criticism/being made fun of for doing something stupid, that you yourself admitted you knew was stupid, why'd you make the post and what were you hoping to hear instead?

That doesn't change that you still should have immediately kicked him out soon as he said it. That's the kind of thing where you immediately cut your losses and you get him out instead of trying to haggle to get your money back still because if he was willing to lie about that at all, he may have been even younger for all you knew and still lying. So just would have been best to immediately eject from the situation by telling him to just get out. Also, random forum tip, you can quote multiple comments in the same post so you don't have to reply to everyone individually back to back to back.

I don't entirely disagree, I've been on the receiving end of that myself. It's fun, but it's just as fun for me when they keep thrusting and i can feel the top lose control of his thrusting rhythm (or conversely, go into overdrive) while he's grunting/moaning more cause it feels so nice for him 🥵. When i top though, if i don't keep thrusting when I'm cumming, i just feel like i teased myself to the edge and then didn't properly finish. Just kinda cumming isn't enjoyable for me, leaves me more frustrated than if i just didn't start at all 🤣

If I'm topping and i start cumming, i keep thrusting till I'm done cumming. If i stop, then that means I'm cutting my orgasm short. Like if 1 is no pleasure, and 10 is cumming. If i cum and keep thrusting it's like: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 888888, 999999, 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10! 10!, 9999999999999, 888888888888, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Where as if i stop once i start cumming it's like: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 888888888, 99999999, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. It's like opening a champagne bottle and then dropping it on the floor the second after you open it. Instead of shaking it and spraying it all over the place till the foam stops. If that makes sense 😆. So personally, stopping thrusting when i start cumming is very much not something I'd want to do. The guy bottoming can tell I'm cumming by the sounds i make and the change in thrusting pattern. That's just me though. There's of course other reasons i would stop thrusting if asked, but just so the bottom can feel the throbbing at the expense of the best part of my orgasm isn't one of them.

Would you call a restaurant with a dress code unprofessional? You only see this as unprofessional because you're miffed you aren't being let in to the restaurant, not because the practice is actually unprofessional. We aren't owed service, even in this industry, and businesses have the right to refuse service to whomever. Just go to a different restaurant without a dress code. The ones that have been around longer than 18-24 years usually don't have one.

I think it's just because most clients aren't paying users of RentMen to be able to leave reviews. I've known providers seeing multiple clients a week who have been on RM for a year+ with no reviews. Amount of reviews has no correlation to how many people they're seeing.

Agreed. I think those terms always mean what they mean personally, but for sure what gets murky is how and when people choose to apply them in practice. There's always exceptions and "in the heat of the moment" variation and what not.

Very true. I'm kind of like that in my own sex life. I'm verse/bottom, but the times i bottom versus top are entirely dependent on the other guy and if he's my "type" to want to top. The times i want to top it's generally only for guys smaller/shorter than me. So a big tall guy who wants me to top him would almost never get that from me and would thus perceive me as a verse/bottom who never actually tops or as a lying total bottom 😆, which would only be true from his perspective cause he's not there when I'm absolutely dicking down some hot Short King. So it's kind of about who's perspective we're looking at it from in that way and other circumstantial stuff like what Jamie21 described where he's like "i'm happy to bottom if asked, but most assume and want me to top, so 🤷‍♂️" lol.

In my experience. "Verse/Top" means someone mostly tops but also will bottom occasionally. "Verse/Bottom" means someone mostly bottoms but also will top occasionally. "Versatile" is 50/50 true verse flip fuck city, no problem doing either whenever.

Definitely have seen some of the porn/OnlyFans famous guys have prices like that before. There are some rich people/fans paying it, so it is what it is. One persons "outrageous" is another persons "i don't even have to think twice" 🤷‍♂️. It's been brought up on similar threads, but some providers are totally fine having a handful of clients paying 1000 over having a dozen clients paying 200. Especially makes sense since providing likely isn't the main source of income for guys like him. Modeling, content, social media, public appearances, etc probably are.

No experience with him, but reverse image search pulls up a Twitter page (which he has 3 of, the first one i clicked has him following his other two accounts) which links an OnlyFans page. All his content pages mention him being Giant and him being 6'8"/6'9". Seems to be his thing. His RM ad doesn't link to any of those social media/OF profiles though (and forum rule says i can't post the links here because of that), so that would be a red flag to me that he's using the content creators pics. But also the one review his page does have is from an RM member since 2016 who's reviewed many many other providers (we probably could use this guys intel here, he hires a ton from the looks of it 😆). So that would lead me to think that review is real at least, and his review says "Super hot, tall, handsome, hung, nice and fun guy." and his client profile says he's 6'1". For a 6'1" guy to consider someone else tall, he's got to be at least 6'4" i'd think. Me personally, this would be enough for me to take the plunge if i was interested. Or i'd at least probably message that RM reviewer and feel i could trust what he had to say.

That sucks it didn't work out well with him. You did the right thing for sure. I've experienced guys like him before both in hiring and just hooking up off Grindr/apps. Young, hot, likely very in demand and juggling tons of options. They want you to book and make it happen as quickly as possible and they don't like answering too many questions or getting into details. Anything more than the bare minimum to confirm and execute is uninteresting and a waste of time to them. If you ask too many questions or don't jump through their weird hoops they will bail and pick up the next available client/potential hookup (whom they're likely in various stages of booking others simultaneously to you and they just go see whichever one locks it in first and leave the others hanging because they have so many options it doesn't matter). Dudes like this are just incredibly flakey. As far as the weird sending the small fee to their friend thing. I've also experienced that before. One guy i used to see regularly would book a motel for us and on our first couple meets he always had me Zelle the motel room deposit of $50-75 to a different person each time of the first like 3 or 4 times i met him, but I'd bring him cash for the full rate. After a while he had me send the motel booking deposits direct to him. I felt just as suspicious about it at first but followed through anyway as you did. It ended up being fine, so i didn't question it after the first time. I never asked who those other people were, but if i had to assume i figure it was either someone he knew at the motel who'd hold a room for him (it's his go to spot for hosting clients who can't host him and for filming OnlyFans/Twitter content with collabs who come to him) or it was going to friends/family he was trying to spread the wealth to. Luckily this guy wasn't flakey and performs well in the session, but yeah i was super weirded out by the "send 50 to my friend first" thing too.