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The topic is "Thoughts on Deposits" which can be translated to "Opinions on Deposits". Can we just let folks state their preference and move on? Why does everything need to turn into a toxic back and forth. I've never been asked for a deposit nor do I think I would pay a deposit unless I was really certain that the meeting was going to take place. Just my answer/opinion to the question and I'm not going to argue with anyone if you feel that I am wrong.
Now have a blessed day 💗

Do you remember what you paid and how much for the upsell?

He started to escort again, beginning Nov of last year.
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Interesting yet solid approach to a 1st world problem.

I don't know how you guys do it.
I RARELY EVER hire someone for ONE hour of sex without meeting them once first. ( usually hire them for massage first to catch a vibe ).
I can't imagine paying $$$ to spend two full days with a complete stranger only to discover we can't stand each other.

Exactly, as hot as many of these guys are, 48 hours with the same unfamiliar guy might not be the best use of your time/money.  If I were in your position, I would probably hire three guys- one for day 1 (2 hours), one overnight (I assume that would be 12 hours… and the guy you would choose if you were to choose just one, and one for day 2 (2 hours).

Anyone spent time with BigBrownX recently? I'm definitely interested in meeting up with him.

The topic is "Thoughts on Deposits" which can be translated to "Opinions on Deposits". Can we just let folks state their preference and move on? Why does everything need to turn into a toxic back and forth. I've never been asked for a deposit nor do I think I would pay a deposit unless I was really certain that the meeting was going to take place. Just my answer/opinion to the question and I'm not going to argue with anyone if you feel that I am wrong.
Now have a blessed day 💗

I’ve met with Ericso recently but in LA area. Overall great experience. Photos are accurate but not as that level ripped as posted in RM. Massage was great, pretty decent and also interactive. Also gives oral for HE which is what i didn’t expected. 60min for 200$, 90min for 280$. Full service is available but didn’t asked for it

Granted his photo seem edited and looks too good to be true.
 
Anyone meet?
 
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So true. I've saved myself thousands of dollars going the #1 and #2 route. 😋

I may not do that in the initial text but I definitely provide my stats and send a photo. As I say to them "I know a lot about you so it's only fair for you to know some about me." I think it's only fair, that way it eliminates an element of Surprise! Surprise!

I may not do that in the initial text but I definitely provide my stats and send a photo. As I say to them "I know a lot about you so it's only fair for you to know some about me." I think it's only fair, that way it eliminates an element of Surprise! Surprise!

So true. I've saved myself thousands of dollars going the #1 and #2 route. 😋

Reason for this is: in the states at least, you simply can’t get use the word “deposit” on RentMen. They will delete it just like they deleted rates. I can’t say deposit in my ad, but I’ve been able to use other code that is quite clear on the deposit asked.
Also, I checked your search results: good idea however, that is only pulling up results within the area you are in, what city are you looking in? 
 
I’ll tell you why (I know that’s probably not what you want). Because one particular person went from stating an opinion, to then recommending others not to do something. That’s where the problem lies. Agree or disagree, but don’t start telling others not to do it and then further reference other guys who don’t. Other guys/escorts aren’t going to pay my bills or my hotel/gas if a client cancels. Period. So, nobody should talk about what other escorts do and don’t do. It’s not about that. 
 
In addition, each time it comes up…someone adds “but I won’t do it”. So then the discussion continues. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the back and forth. It takes a bit of communication to come to an understanding, and also getting to the nitty gritty behind why some do and don’t. I think this is probably the most in depth it’s ever gotten. 
 
I seen one escort in his ad claim, “I don’t accept pay app payments, the federal government is watching our transactions.” Which is not true. I don’t think it should have ever even been approved, but…once again people have their reasonings. I know many clients, even the non-deposit guys, will still use a pay app to settle up. 
Now, with everything said: it does make me question if I want to continue deposits…however at this particular point in my life, I’m not sure its the right timing to get rid of it, even with business being slow. Maybe at some point this year when I have a full time in-call back up and running, and most of my bookings are within 30 minutes away.
 
But even still: I service a sketchy market. Kansas City. The vast majority of guys offering to pay here: want us to host. And often on short notice. Even outcalls are same day requested, and it’s just too much trying to do those without deposits. Imagine how stupid and foolish it feels to leave a friend/family member/event to meet a client and he flakes? Do that a few times, over the course of a few months and you hopefully learn to do deposits. 
However it’s not just here, just about every city in the country has its flakes…persistent flakes who are dismissive, and then come around 6 months later like it never happened. Like wait: aren’t you the same MoFo who said “nevermind/you’ll pass/no I don’t do deposits” and now you’re trying to get with me again? If I’m such a scammer, or my rates are too high, why are you still trying to get in contact with me 🤔 
But as stated: I’ve been in the industry without deposits, longer than I have been with. The only difference is, I’m not going extra miles hoping the client is real; nor taking last minute or advanced bookings at a loss. 

Sure, but the constant back and forth is just annoying as fuck and not getting anyone anywhere. 
Time for pizza.

So true. I've saved myself thousands of dollars going the #1 and #2 route. 😋

Example solicitation:

“Hi Mr. Provider, this is Mr. Client, I saw your profile on RM 🤩 (attach photo of myself). It looks like you are in town this weekend and I am interested in setting up some time to hang out with ya on Saturday or Sunday afternoon. 
 
I’m 46, 5’11”, 200 lbs, bald, fit, muscular. I like to be submissive with big men. I’m a pleaser, so am pretty open to you being in control and doing whatever gets you off. I’m also affectionate. 
 
I think your photos are amazing. If this sounds like a good match, please let me know if you’re up for an outcall to my place at (provide Goggle map link to my location). I’ll cover the ride and your travel time. What’s your rate for an hour?”
 
😘
 
I’m open to feedback. This tends to work.

1.) Jack off
2.) Blast off
3.) Take a cold shower
 
You’ll be over it in less than 10 minutes. 
 
 
 

The topic is "Thoughts on Deposits" which can be translated to "Opinions on Deposits". Can we just let folks state their preference and move on? Why does everything need to turn into a toxic back and forth. I've never been asked for a deposit nor do I think I would pay a deposit unless I was really certain that the meeting was going to take place. Just my answer/opinion to the question and I'm not going to argue with anyone if you feel that I am wrong.
Now have a blessed day 💗

The topic is "Thoughts on Deposits" which can be translated to "Opinions on Deposits". Can we just let folks state their preference and move on? Why does everything need to turn into a toxic back and forth. I've never been asked for a deposit nor do I think I would pay a deposit unless I was really certain that the meeting was going to take place. Just my answer/opinion to the question and I'm not going to argue with anyone if you feel that I am wrong.
Now have a blessed day 💗

I’ve heard providers describe how they charge certain clients more or less based on the Robin Hood principle. Or because someone was rude or particularly nice in booking.
I’ve not heard it expressed as tied to the client’s perceived looks. 
I did have a provider once say when i assumed we were both in the heat of the moment “you’re so hot, I should be paying * you * …” and of course I didn’t take him literally and thought it odd that would even be referenced as it’s almost taboo to do so at any time during a session - and I replied “oh, really …?” - and he broke character and reminded me (though I didn’t need it) “we’re just acting, honey, remember?” - did kill the mood a little but not the fee 😉

Okay let's get back to the basic question of follow or ignore.
I tend to follow the autoresponder instructions if I am really interested in the provider, understanding that he may not be checking the site regularly. I would even say that I like autoresponder because I get an instant response which provides helpful information in most cases. I also realize that providers aren't sitting in front of their laptop or staring at their phone waiting to reply instantly to messages on the app. At least when I text someone directly I know there is a better likelihood of him seeing the  message sooner than a message left on the app. 
Plus I'm a sub so I always follow orders/instructions.😈

I met up with Ky (He also goes by Ayrton) for an erotic massage last night in San Francisco by Union Square and holy shit, lol.  This guy is legit.  Pics are definitely real.  He apologized for "being fat" because he ate a lot on a recent trip and yet his body was still unreal.  Touching his smooth skin over those tight muscles was... yeah it was like feeling silk over granite haha.  He also has a killer smile that will disarm you.
I asked him about compensation for his time and he indicated he preferred to be paid up front and asked if I was ok with that.  His reasoning is sound, he doesn't want the end of your time together to be about a transaction, he wants to end in pure bliss, which sounded hot to me.  He also said if I see him again I can just Zelle him after if I was more comfortable with that, so it sounds like he's more flexible here than other posters have indicated as long as you prove you're a trustworthy client.
He definitely escorts as well and you need to be clear about what you're looking for and what you're not so that he can quote an appropriate rate for his time.  I didn't sample from the entire menu but it sounds... extensive.  For an erotic massage he asks $300 for 1 hour.  I didn't ask about the other options.  I will tell you he was absolutely worth it.
Personality wise he's actually very kind and easy going.  His verbal English is better than his written and he's a great conversationalist.  I could see going out to dinner and drinks would be a fun date night experience.  He says he can cook as well, so that might be fun.  He's back in school right now and just doing this on the side to make money for tuition.  He also has some personal training experience so if you want some tips you can ask him.  He even offered to meet me at the gym while he's here to work out together.
His massage was fantastic.   In particular he can apply real deep pressure if you need it but be soft and gentle elsewhere.  Yes, I'm a fan of erotic massages but I also want to get a real massage in the process and he can absolutely do both.
As I said earlier, if you're looking for more than your standard ending, you need to clarify that beforehand.  While he won't "upsell" you on extras, you WILL be tempted to ask for more.  It's hard to say goodbye to that smile and body.
I plan on seeing him again before he leaves SF on Monday morning.  He said he still has some gaps in his schedule this weekend when he's not in the Castro or playing tourist, so if you're looking for a new a fun experience, you should text him.
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