NipLuvr212

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That whole “But, I’m DiScReEt” excuse is bullshit. I gotta know if you’re my type BEFORE I agree to fuck you. 100% Dom BBC Bull Top.


RATE FOR 60 MINS MAX:

• Incall (I Host): 350 USD
• Outcall (You Host): 490 USD

Yes - small dick size compensated for by amazingly large ego - totally bizarre guy - send me his bio which is off the charts crazy - i would say this guy is borderline psycho (with all due respect)

I could smell the small dick a mile away! Pardon the scratch and sniff visual . . . 

Or else!
 

I assume that this is a driving trip, so I hope you are not planning to do the trip as non-stop between those places,  or you are going to be too tired to do anything else. I would also vary the route somewhat west of St. Louis if it doesn't interfere with something important to you about Oklahoma City, and instead head through Kansas City, Denver and Las Vegas en route to Palm Springs. If you are interested in things like Presidential history in this election year, you can see the Lincoln memorabilia around Springfield, and the Truman and Eisenhower Libraries in Missouri and Kansas. If you must go to Albuquerque, the route south from Denver is more scenic, and I agree with Njguy2 that Santa Fe is worth the stop. Lucky is sort of joking, but Palm Springs really is hotter than hell in July and August, so most residents flee to the mountains or the coast, and BSR is right that it would be a shame to travel all the way from NY but skip the last hundred miles to the Pacific. What gay man would pass up LA and SF?
Also, check out Oliver's postings about his drives here to Palm Springs from Columbus with Epigonos  and jawjatek.

Not sure if you are taking side trips - but if you go through Albuquerque - you need to head up to Santa Fe for at least a day/overnight.

My only advice is to extend your trip a bit to a final destination on the Pacific coast.  It doesn't matter where -- LA, Santa Barbara, San Diego, whatever tickles your fancy -- so that you get the full "from sea to shining sea" experience. 
When I drove from Boston to Las Vegas, I made it a point to have lunch at a clam shack on Boston Harbor a few days before heading out.  When I got to LV, I remember thinking it would have been cool to continue on to LA because 1) I always wanted to see the iconic Santa Monica Pier and 2) it would have given me the feeling of truly driving cross-country.  But since Las Vegas was my final destination, the 10 additional hours to LA (round-trip) would have been silly.
For your sake (and for all of us), I hope that Dick's Cabaret in Phoenix reopens by the time you make your trip, even though chances are awfully slim.

Check out the "Travel Desk" section of this website.

We're not Karen's. You took the thread off track.

@Necks said: We're here looking for something specific. Contribute.
YES
We've already established that I was wrong.
Beat another dead horse, gents.
The Karens are out in force today.

I think you're missing the point of this entire conversation.
We aren't discussing the general public of gay men.
We are discussing the massage industry as it is marketed to gay men at massage parlors.
All your comments above are all lovely and granola and all...but they have little to do with the subject at hand.
90% of everyone here is looking for YOUNG, cute guys to hire. Simple fact of life.
If  I wanted some old man to touch me, I wouldn't be paying for it.
The definition of a fetish is something that is very specific that turns on a very small segment of a community. That's what you're asking about. A specific interest that most people don't get into. Nothing insulting about it. It is what it is.
So if you like old masseurs, by all means GO FOR IT !  🥳
Seems like a few members managed to scrounge up some examples of what you want inspite of the rarity. So thanks to all who know which corners of the industry to look in.

Actually all of your points have little to do with the subject at hand.  I was asking for older masseurs and you chime in with insults about older people.  You can go back and read your posts if you want to.  I don't understand how you can't see the whole intent of my posting.  I literally said in my VERY FIRST post that MOST PEOPLE are into younger guys and MOST PARLORS have those younger guys, but I was asking if anyone knew of parlors and/or masseurs who didn't fit that stereotype.  No one is (or ever was) arguing against the fact that most people are looking for younger guys. Your logic to chime in and remind me of something I already stated in my original post is unnecessary.  
And while we're not discussing *specifically* gay men, you are talking *directly* to other gay men, and you should do so with respect and refrain from insults, especially toward people who fought their entire lives to simply exist.  And these parlors exist for gay, bi, and questioning men to experience physical touch, and some of us need that.  Not just want that, but need that.  So when you argue against someone simply looking for a niche variation of what's normally offered, and you don't have any recommends, you can simply keep your mouth shut.  All that to say, you need to grow up.

Inaccurate -  better said that it's not part of YOUR formula. . The OP is proof that there may be other formulas than yours. 

What are you going on about? Stop.
OP is asking for recommendations for older masseurs, and here you are on your soapbox spewing bullshit. You're like the vegan lady with dreadlocks meme. Stop trying so hard.
Yeah older masseurs are rarer shut up about that. No one cares about your "this is reality" rant. We're here looking for something specific. Contribute.

I have to second this verdict.
Nice guy, excellent communication, good massage but something just felt "off" - perhaos that if why I forgot about the experience very soon after the appointment ended.

Likewise. I saw him a few months ago and he didn’t really live up to the hype for me. He seemed a bit distant and the massage wasn’t as thorough as we’d discussed 

I have to second this verdict.
Nice guy, excellent communication, good massage but something just felt "off" - perhaos that if why I forgot about the experience very soon after the appointment ended.

I have to second this verdict.
Nice guy, excellent communication, good massage but something just felt "off" - perhaos that if why I forgot about the experience very soon after the appointment ended.

I finally took the plunge a few months ago when I was in town and was disappointed. Overpriced and underwhelmed…He is nice. He has a hot body. But the massage wasn’t worth the price point for me. One of my more disappointing experiences. 

The henna-rinsed hag cannot go 10 seconds without uttering *&%^*#@ and *&^%$# and dropping the f-bomb. The heinous harlot has never been funny. Simply offensive and obnoxious. She never was and never will be a "comedienne". She's simply an angry, foul-mouthed activist. Comediennes are someone you laugh with. KG is someone you laugh at.
The loathsome creature from the Red Lagoon seems to always be angry. Is that because most of her dates abandon her at the local dog pound? 
If only Mr. Ed was still alive. I believe Kathy and Mr. Ed would make a beautiful couple. Unless someone mistakes them for brother and sister.
Randy Bick is a lucky man to escape from that marriage with his head still attached to his neck. He dodged a bullet... or more likely, a machete!
Kathy Griffin, alone and unloved.  Bozo really loves a story with a happy ending.
BTC

I’m back in January I promise!  🤣

fact-check verb   investigate (an issue) in order to verify the facts. "I didn't fact-check the assertions in the editorial" Actually, Auggie, consumers are running on record net worth.  
The Average American’s Net Worth Jumped 37% in 3 Years
You've done an awesome job of persuading me you are emotionally committed to the idea that the end is near, the sky is falling, and of course there is, was, and will be a recession - always and forever, until the management changes.
That's the part that sucks.  The not so sucky part is that homeownership is at a record high - two in three Americans own their homes - and home values are up.  Most Americans have very stable and low fixed rate mortgages.  Or just own their home free and clear. Most data I read suggest young Americans have it the worst, and are pissed.  Like especially young families who want to buy homes at sky high interest rates.  That said, the net worth of Americans under 35 doubled in three years, from $16,000 to $39,000.  It can't suck that bad, can it?
This is one of the main reasons median net worth increased from $141,100 in 2019 to $192,900 in 2022.  Sucks, huh?  I know from past posts that you'll now pivot from "The sky is falling!" to "It's a bubble!"  Which one is it?  While you are figuring that out, I calculated that the additional $51,800 in net worth for a typical American would buy 3,985 Big Mac meals at $13 a pop.  Hungry, anyone?  That should keep the economy going for a while.
Consumer debt is lower than it has been for most of the last half century.  It was even lower during the pandemic, thanks to lots of enforced savings because people couldn't go to Italy.  So they just remodeled their home instead.  And of course add in all that government money. 
If the question is, "what might keep us out of a recession?", the ability of consumers to spend more would be one good answer.  To put it in relative terms, right now at 10 % of income consumer debt is LOWER than it was in the early 90's, at the start of the biggest bull market in our lifetimes.  By the end of that bull market consumer debt rose to 13 % of income.  Which of course partly helped fuel the boom.  If the future is anything like the past half century, consumer debt is below average and is more likely to go up than down now - fueling economic growth, corporate profits, and higher stock prices.
Now I'll put on my prognosticator hat.  What might drive growth and keep us out of a recession?  I have two answers, citing three people who are smarter than me.
When Stanley Druckenmiller was actually predicting the sky was falling after the 1987 crash, some voodoo stock chart guy named Glenn Neely predicted the biggest bull market ever.  Druckenmiller now admits he was wrong, but is also a lot richer.  Neely admits he was right, and is also a lot richer.  Sucks to be them, huh?  Neely called a one year bull market last June, predicting the S & P would hit something like 5500 in 2024.  So far he looks to be right.  He is also predicting the bull market will keep going for years, with corrections along the way.  His thesis is that capitalism and free markets are going to win.  Frankly, right now, I'm a bit pessimistic.  Vlad had a much better year than everyone thought he would.  That said, China and the US both seem to want to keep the global economy chugging.  So it's a scary and uncertain time.  But Neely could be right.
Druckenmiller could be, too.  I think his call on the big federal debt bomb is correct.  He said at a conference earlier this year that government can and probably will kick the can down the road until the 2030's, when the trust funds for things like Social Security run dry.  Meanwhile, he is big on NVDA and AI.  He said that booms like that can last for years.  It's too soon to tell.  But so far he is right.
I'm personally skeptical about AI.  I'm more worried about how it will shred jobs than how it will increase corporate profits.  That said, this video is worth watching.  It's the CEO of Nvidia.
The thing that worries me is his seemingly guileless tone when asked repeatedly about all the havoc AI could wreak.  He's more worried about his own company's survival than the impact of the technology on the world, or jobs. 
That said, if you watch nothing else watch the last four minutes or so.  To quote him, he says "It's a big deal, because it's a complete reinvention of the computer industry."  New networks, new switching, new computer design, new software, new data centers.  All driven by us stupid passive investors, who are piling money into NVDA and SOXL and their ilk.  It's capitalism, and it sucks, right?  But I could see this driving a boom and a bull market, just like in the 90's.
If we survive AI, things might be okay.  It could actually drive prosperity.  If that happens, like Druckenmiller, I hope the government spends some of the windfall capital gains taxes on reducing the deficit.  It happened in the 1990's.  It could happen again, if we could just agree.  Think about that while you're munching on your 3,985 Big Macs, Auggie.  😉

you forgot to mention obesity as one of the reasons of America's decline, how it's clearly linked to poverty, and also, the fact that many regions of the country look like 3rd world countries. 

Of course stats matter, but so do perceptions.  Shoplifting is so bad in San Francisco that drug stores have resorted to putting frozen food under lock & key.  Such a measure doesn't mean that I am much more likely to get murdered or mugged in the city, but who wants to live in a place where toothpaste & Hot Pockets have to be bolted down?
Please note that the property crime statistics in San Francisco fail to tell the real story because stores don't even bother to report thefts less than $950.

It's already clarified......
 
"Bring up all the stats you want about who has greater or lower crime rates than SF.  It is perception, NOT JUST REALITY"......
Emphasis added this time.