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So I work with out of state clients (both when I am "out of state" and locally for those that travel to my locale and like most providers, have a contingent of "regulars" that are more local and are repeat clients. Some of the local clients know me in more detail and because of that familiarity, tend to "chat chat" about service to other clients they may know that book me. Now let me say, I don't talk about other clients, what I do with them and tend to be rather abrupt about the topic, usually responding that, "I don't talk about anybody, their business or what I do", usually pointing out that what "we" do isn't discussed in any way. A client had asked me about my views regarding a friend of his who had also booked me. The gentleman has a lot of tattoos and is quite well endowed. I didn't give my opinion on either and changed the subject after explaining why. The client wasn't upset. To ignore that philosophy is to invite a hornet's next and to behave unprofessionally. Thoughts?

Provider and client should always have an agreement prior to the service. I would never spring something on a client as far as renumeration in the middle of a session. Agreement as to service and renumeration should be agreed prior to meeting. I don't even like clarifications when meeting a client. No surprises for either party.

Well let me say when I first started, I didn't have a lot of reviews either, but those I had were excellent. Southeast Asia a totally different situation. I'd be very wary unless it was greatly apparent they were real and reliable. I'd get more facts before doing anything.

Very interesting thread and topic! I love car negotiations. I actually just joined a new gym, the first time in my adult life I changed gyms and it was what I call a "car negotiation. I trade cars frequently and especially with the value of trade ins recently, I love to see what I can get. A few things I'd recommend: 1.Know your facts about the car you want and if you are trading, what you will take for the trade. 2. Don't limit yourself to local dealers. While I live in Kansas, my latest Camaro came from St. Joseph, MO and my Jeep Gladiator came from Tulsa, OK. I've purchased care i Missouri, Oklahoma, Arkansas and other states. Some dealerships don't want to "play games" as they put it and won't negotiate on your terms or level. Screw them and cross them off the list and move forward. You will always find someone who will negotiate with you. They might be willing to come down from the MSRP, but they will screw you with the trade in allowance. You must balance everything, taxes paid, trade in cost basis, what they will give you to drive to them. I usually get $300-$500 for travel. I also like to look if I'm in other cities, seeing escort clients. If you are dedicated and serious, it works well. Don't take your eye off the ball and always be ready to head for the door if they aren't being fair or above board. That happened in Little Rock, Arkansas. More often than not, you will hear, "Wait a minute".....

His ego is talking rather than the need to follow a proper business plan. My gym time is very valuable to me, but one crafts time for both exercise and client. What he is saying basically is, "I'm more important than you are", it is a sign of a non professional and I'd steer clear. Health and fitness if very important, but it should be set around work time. If there is a problem with balancing both, a "rebalance" should be considered. The guy who said that to you should never be considered again.

Sometimes I do, sometimes not. As an escort, I never equate getting off with having a good time. I almost always have a great time with a client. If I have multiple clients in a day, it helps not to get off, honestly. There are some clients that prefer that their escort gets off with them, but for others, it is about the service to them and their satisfaction. I think its great to get off. I don't think I ever think of it as an obligation.

I am and pleased about it.

I don't care what the issue, one never threatens another in this way. I like Frank R's comment as well. Both provider and client must act with reason and patience at times, but this provider apparently flunked the basics. Sorry to hear an event like this happened. I would hope most professional providers would respond reasonably. I hope you have no more dealings with this person.

I was, it was an awesome time. I enjoyed serving as “social chair” and working up all the plans!

Good thread and discussion. I honestly haven't had too many issues with clients and always try to present myself as professional, informed and responsible. Most of the clients who hire me have treated me the same. There have been exceptions.

You never know how a group of gay men will respond to something. Interesting answers. I chuckled.

If the understanding is the service is for an hour, that should be your expectations. Because of the issue, I'd voice this prior to the service being performed.... you expect a 60 minute massage for the amount paid.

Define a "secondary market"?

I think honesty is the best policy. We are who we are, if a client is looking for something else, he should be able to shop elsewhere. I always want to be transparent about my attributes.

We can all appreciate a polite approach, professionalism shown by the client, appreciation after and a tip if warranted and the client wants to do so. To show flexibility and patience, provided the provider does the same.

Interesting response from the above members. The reality is, there are a number of reasons for a recession. A recession will arrive with certainty. I don't think it will be in the short term, however. Soft landing? At the moment things look pretty good. I believe I heard the economy grew at 3.3% last quarter and the economists had expected about 2.0%.

Well thanks very much for your kind remarks. Certainly wise as well. As a provider, mutual respect is essential. Respect by a provider is shown in numerous ways and it starts before the provider ever meets a client. When the respect is mutual, the end result is successful time spent by both parties (literally).

I would assume nothing more than a mutual appreciation of the other. I never pay much attention to stories like this.

Well I'll be the first to say that I have a lot of underwear, mostly C-in2 and Pump. It came up with a client and he is now paying me for morning underwear photos. Nice to employ the dozens and dozens.... and um, dozens of underwear in a way that is productive and profitable. He really enjoys them and has encouraged me to buy more underwear (hmmm, not sure that makes sense), but sometimes a fetish does have rewrads!

It can be a challenge, the cold weather sounds like it would be great for snuggling, but I certainly don't like getting out at night and I've found others seeking service can be a bit cranky and less positive. We don't get that much snow in southern Kansas and not much to speak of right now. That helps.

In southern Kansas here. Generally I'm set at 62 overnight and while gone to work during the day. I like it warmer while active, like upper 60's. My Dad made a big deal about cost savings during the time I was a teenager, so I got used to 61 myself when I had my first home built. These days I like it a little warmer and I use my space heater (which is going on me as write this) and the 2 fireplaces in my new home. It really helps.

I did and I appreciate the commentary. I'm very middle of the road on the trend

So curious about what you all think of one of the latest men's fashion trends.

Well first, welcome to the site and welcome back to the industry! My only advice as a provider, is that you do what you feel is appropriate for you. We aren't in your shoes and we don't live where you do. If the path you have articulated for us is the best one for you, then certainly make it happen and we wish you the best. If you need to make adjustments, be flexible enough to consider it. Good luck and look forward to reading your thoughts on various topics!

Yes, it does happen. I don't have an issue with it provided any participant is comfortable with privacy concerns and the methods used are agreed.