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There has been a lot of discussion here about the first meeting between provider and client. Most times, interaction online, email or text. There can be times when a perspective new client may want to meet in person and interact. I have no problem with any of the above. I had a perspective new client who requested a quick conversation during the middle of the business day and it coincided with my giving a presentation to a group with my "day job". I was in a white dress shirt and tie and in my professional mode. When I met with the proposed client, he was surprised to say the least, but positively so. We had a very interesting conversation and he was absolutely intrigued. In the end, it was a very positive take on a first time meeting. I suppose it could have been different, but many of my clients are businessmen and I feel very comfortable and confident chatting them up on various topics. I suppose it could have been the opposite, but I didn't have time to change my clothes. Anyone else have a similar experience?

Certainly there is some identification with you for sure. I have a number of friends and when I came out (in my 20's), I naively thought, "I'll have guys I really identify with and add a bunch". The reality is, I tend to be very friendly with those (gay or straight) that I share education, interests, ideas, view of life and other similarities. An older gay friend (who was a staff member at my college when I was a student) once told me, "I'm different, but you are really unusual for a gay man". He was right. I probably have more in common in many cases, with straight guys. Career work and goals keep my time with friends limited, but I do get out and see many, some are straight, some gay,

I have a flat rate I charge clients, but I add extra for travel to them (beyond the metro area). I think there could be things added for non "customary" service.... something above and beyond. I do think that if a provider charged a "different rate" for various clients, it would need to be based on some logic and reason... and be articulated to clients.

Let me say this, one of my first clients I had is a top, but really cannot perform that way anymore. He doesn't use any medical assistance and I think he'll get there, but he is always apologetic and is more of an "oral" experience. My job as a provider is to make him feel good, satisfied and accepted. I never am judgmental about what they can or cannot do or perform. I am there for their service, not my own. I always say, "it doesn't matter to me" and it doesn't. I have been asked what I think or my own opinion, but I make suggestions that will be helpful to him, not me or anyone else. If you want to mention in passing your condition, it is up to you. If your provider is a good one, it won't matter.

Wow, I have to say I've never had a client not pay me. Most give me a tip. What an unfortunate experience and one that many providers may face eventually. Very sorry you had to go through that! I would hope this is an exception and you won't ever have the experience again. When discussing booking, certainly getting a real understanding of who they are and how solid they feel are important. I'm sure you did that. Nothing is foolproof, but I would encourage you to not give up some trust with a client relationship. I can understand the "up front" approach. I would hope you never have a rough time like that again. Such a sad thing.

I was notified by Rentmen that my credit card had "failed", despite the fact I am nowhere near the expiration date and pay my card off each month. I use a regular VISA card for this transaction and was told to either use "Mastercard" or Bitcoin. I remember something about this last year and was told my card was fine since I have been registered as a provider on their site for some time. I have no desire to open a credit card with Mastercard just for Rentmen. For those clients and providers that actively use Rentmen, what have you heard and what do you use?

Well kind of hard to provide a complete answer here. We'd need to know more about the interaction between you and the proposed provider. I would never block an interested client if we were having simple polite interaction. If it became aggressive, derogatory or disrespectful, I might block the guy. I assume it was a simple interaction. If he did block you after you booked him without any sort of discussion, I'd assume he wasn't someone you'd want to hire int he first place and find someone else.

I generally get ask for my rate or "donation". I've had a very few offer less and tell me that's all they can afford. I don't think I have ever been "offered" a rate. Interesting idea, but I don't think it would be that successful. Different providers view the value of their work in different ways. Some would be offended no doubt. Definitely shifts the compensation "control" to the client. Interesting.

I've often talked about the mental and physical addiction that a provider can get from escorting. I don't like being "addicted" to anything to be honest. It sounds like you view it as a problem and are taking steps. A counselor can help or just removing it altogether. Perhaps being here is a step in your perceived recovery. Understand and hope you are successful.

I can't really speak to other providers. I know I try and respond back in a timely manner. Sometimes it cannot be the same day, but I generally try. If you are going to be a serious provider, diligence is key. If you can't provide service "same day", good communication certainly helps I would think.

I would consider it at best a "yellow flag". When clients ask me to unlock photos, I do it and don't think about relocking them. Things happen, people are busy. I wouldn't have been the least concerned if you took two days to check out my photos. That said, he might have had some experience that warrants that behavior and I'd suggest another effort. If you have a problem again with the interaction, I'd move along. There are many others that would appreciate your time and interest.

Sounds horrible indeed. I at first wondered about the "male prostitute" part, but definitely not gay. Will be interesting to follow the case.

Thank you for sharing your experience and both the good and challenging. As a provider, I never try to be judgmental. I have a friendly relationship with many of my regular clients and am friends with a few of those who I don't see in the role of provider. Doesn't matter why they don't, I respect them. They aren't obligated to continue the 'booking relationship" and the best thing is to show appreciation (if at all possible). My own experience as a provider on RM is largely positive and have only had a couple of challenging experiences, which I largely credit it the situation You live , learn and move forward.

Some great input. Much appreciate all the replies!

I certainly appreciate the perspective. Thanks for sharing!

Very nice, thanks for sharing.

So I take it no tattoos are the best tattoos in your book?

Thanks for the input. Just to be sure, there were 2 rows of tattoos, each with 3 photos, are you referencing the top group or bottom?

Good point for sure.

So I was with a repeat client and got into a conversation about tattoos and why I only have one. I always think its more a personal thing and he was talking about providers and their tattoos. He even referenced "sex tattoos" and I replied that I wasn't aware of any for male escorts and again, was more of personal preference. I am curious however. For clients, what do you think of tats on those you hire and for providers, how do you view tats and are there any tats for this profession?

Was having a lunch conversation with a friend who knows I escort on the side . A question came up about "first impression" by the client (and by me, interestingly) and how "first impressions" can affect the course of events with business. My thought that "escorting" is like any business. You want to make a favorable impression initially by being on time, clean, appropriate attire and a respectful approach. "Clean" as an escort means no drugs, physically clean and a "clean" choice of verbiage. Actually not much different than any kind of business one partakes, except that a good impression means "clean" a little deeper (so to speak). What about from the viewpoint of a provider? I see new and repeat clients and most are educated professionals. Most treat me as I treat them, but not always. A client that is on drugs is a no go, significant drinking isn't a good look. Dirty hygiene isn't attractive. Once in a while the booking can end at the door, but I've found most clients (especially those who hire) are quite aware of their own need to make a great impression. Thoughts?

Well to start with, I think it wise to remember that you will really have varied responses based on experience and where we live. In some areas not having a car would be kind of strange, but in others, a car is not needed and is almost an "extra" that isn't needed. I have several vehicles, but I wouldn't judge someone on not having or owning one. There might be a valid reason. The OP here just may not have need for a car since he lives in the City center. I personally thought it was gutsy that he ask the OP to come get him. I'd move on rather quickly.

If you don't have someone who is mature and responsible about their actions, I'd move along. If you are contacting someone who views the job as an escort in a professional context you will know.... and certainly the opposite.

Well to begin, don't let anyone make you feel awkward for staying with family, no matter what your age. If you are working and contributing to the household, you have nothing to apologize for. That said, living alone can be very healthful. You make decisions about your home, your stuff, how you want to live and aren't obligated to others. If it bothers you, and you can afford an apartment or home. Rent or buy one and have family come stay WITH YOU (are even get a roommate at your own place! Much to consider. I love having my own house, but I had to take responsibility early, but with years of school, I lived "at home" until my early 30's. I worked my butt off contributing as my mother passed when I was 24 and my Dad had some health problems. Good luck with whatever you choose. You don't have to ever prove or explain anything to other people.

So yesterday, I received notification that it had been a year since I first joined the group here on "Company of Men". I decided to reflect a few minutes and make a few comments. I remember I was surprised when I originally found this site and was eager to chat with others that escort and get input from those who hire. I viewed it as fantastic opportunity to share and get input. I remember I was impressed with the professionalism of how "Company of Men" was administered. I was moving into my new home and taking a partial break from the marketing side of escorting, so I really took some time to take it all in. Ultimately, I got back into my usual routine and with demands with my regular career were such my time here has been more limited recently. Really enjoy the site, however. I have had a couple of "poor experiences" on the forums, but everybody does. I think that is expected in any kind of discussion. People will agree and certainly disagree with you. While I'm political, I think it very wise the administration eliminated direct political commentary from the forums. I think I have seen at least some discussion on many other topics. I like the "national park" section and still need to add some input after my recent trip west and time hiking and exploring in 2 Utah parks. I hope the administrators know how much this site does mean to many here. Thank you for doing the work and I certainly appreciate being a member here. Happy Anniversary!