nate_sf

I’ve also met him socially a couple of times, and he seemed like a nice sexy guy. I too didn’t get any PNP vibe from him at all, so I’m surprised to see that listed in his “I am into” list. He carries himself with maturity and I enjoyed talking with him. I have no intimate experience with him however so can’t comment one way or the other. But from everything I saw, I’d think it would be worth giving him a try. 

I’ve met Magic Mike for photographs, and found him to be very friendly and engaging. We didn’t get intimate so I can’t speak to that. I’m not sure if he hosts at his place but it’s very nice and you won’t have the experience you had with the other provider. 

Word of warning (or encouragement as the case may be!): Magic Mike’s tool is gigantic. One of the biggest I’ve ever seen in person!

Here’s the red flags which I’ve learned from years of experience. All of them are an automatic ‘no’. Say ‘sorry no’ to these clients and do not be tempted to give them the benefit of the doubt. Decide your rules and stick to them regardless. If you don’t do that the work will destroy you. 
1. I’m not able to afford it, would you do me a discount? Top 🚩 
2. I’m a student / temporarily unemployed are there special rates for me? These might come with a ‘sob story’. Very sad. But still it’s a ‘no’. 
3. Do you do half hour sessions? (Anything less than your minimum advertised session….and if you’re advertising anything less than an hour minimum why are you doing that?)
4. Any reference to ‘I’ll be a regular client’ in the discussion. Big 🚩 You’ll never see him again. 
5. Any reference to them being so hot that you’ll not want to charge. Run a mile from these. Run a mile.
6. Opening with ‘I’m very inexperienced / a virgin etc’. Don’t waste your time (if this comes up after he’s booked it’s less of a 🚩 but he’s likely to cancel on the day.
7. Any contact that opens with ‘hey, what’s up, how are you’ etc will be a waste of time. You decide whether you have the spare time to engage with a window shopper.
8. Any contact that opens with a dick pic (or ass). Delete and block. Don’t waste your time. It’s probably not his dick anyway. 
9. Any sex chat during the booking conversation (unless it’s a genuine question about activities included). It will be obvious if the booking process is being used for sex chat. Big 🚩 Disengage immediately.
10. Last minute or urgent bookings. “Free now? I’m desperate” Always trouble. Just answer ‘no sorry’. Even if he offers premium payment don’t accept the booking. 
The common theme? These clients don’t value you. If you accept them at their terms then you’re agreeing with their valuation. That can’t be the start of a good meeting. 
 
 
 

Your entire profession is to deceive.  

You can still write a review, but first click on the button to contact the masseur. Be sure you’re logged in so they’ll have record of that. They won’t know whether or not you actually called the masseur, but that’s enough for them to accept a review. You may need to fib on the date of the session so it’s at least the same day or later from when you initially contacted. 

You can still write a review, but first click on the button to contact the masseur. Be sure you’re logged in so they’ll have record of that. They won’t know whether or not you actually called the masseur, but that’s enough for them to accept a review. You may need to fib on the date of the session so it’s at least the same day or later from when you initially contacted. 

good info from @nate_sf
a provider I've met with many times and I only communicate, by now of course, thru direct texting......he occasionally asks me to leave a rentmen review and we both know that we have to fake some communication via the rentmen chat messenger system, so we do that for about five seconds.........then I wait a day or two to make it look like there was time for the meet to happen before submitting a rentmen review.......
rentmasseur and rentmen are apparently owned by the same group, so I presume they have similar rules.......

You can still write a review, but first click on the button to contact the masseur. Be sure you’re logged in so they’ll have record of that. They won’t know whether or not you actually called the masseur, but that’s enough for them to accept a review. You may need to fib on the date of the session so it’s at least the same day or later from when you initially contacted. 

I think that every staff member is nude at Sunsport Gardens in Florida. I can't say I'd recommend it, but it does fit the description of what you're looking for. I'm taking that you're meaning staff as in employees, not staff as in slang for male genitals. Full staffs of that kind are frowned upon!

That’s horrible providers respond to you this way. Pervasive ignorance around disabilities makes life much harder.
I see clients with disabilities, both physical and neurodivergent. One of my regulars has cerebral palsy. Another is on the autism spectrum. One has parkinson’s disease. Some others use a wheelchair, cane, or other assistive devices for various conditions.
My studio is not 100% accessible by California standards, but I chose it in part because it has accessibility features. Everyone benefits because it makes things easier to use, whether you have a disability or not. My architect background informs so much of what I do! I like my disabled clients and want them to feel comfortable and welcome. Any provider worth your time will do the same.
Disabled clients want escort services and massages the same as everyone else. I see accommodating them no differently than accommodating other needs and preferences. I help them on and off the table, transferring to the shower, and getting dressed. Many times they don’t want help with things like getting dressed, as this is a way for them to maintain their autonomy. In that case I allow more time for them to do what they need to do, and remain patient while a client does tasks a little slower than others.
Andrew Gurza puts out a lot of interesting content around being gay and disabled. He talks frankly about sexuality and openly about hiring. Anyone interested in these topics might check out his podcast Disability After Dark.
Disabilities manifest in so many different ways. You don’t always know by looking at someone that they are disabled. My partner, for instance, suffers from many chronic conditions. I won’t get into it all of the medical specifics here, but basically he has physical limitations, like he can’t sit, stand, walk, or drive for long periods. No step ladders or anything requiring balance or significant coordination. No heavy lifting. He works half time from home because that’s the most he is able to do. He spends a lot of his time recovering from physical exertion, even from basic daily life activities when he pushes himself too hard. You would never tell by meeting him for a few minutes or passing by him in a grocery store. He started using a cane recently, so maybe you would see that, but he is embarrassed to use it outside our home. He’s only 43 years old.
We need more compassion and understanding toward one another. This work requires empathy, respect, and adaptability. We serve everyone. Online we focus so much on how different we are on the surface. At the end of the day, we’re all just people. People with people needs. I may not be saving the world, but approaching this work the way I do gives me a strong sense of purpose.
Good providers will not shun clients with disabilities. Try to shake off cruel commentary as best you can. Keep looking. We exist, and we care.

One of the valuable things I learned here (I believe in a post from @Jamie21) was that profiles on websites aren't just for providers. MY client profile is a great place to share what I think is important about me and our potential encounter. I list right up front what activities I am looking for.
It's been great for efficiency! Often with initial communication the provider immediately opens the topic to "I can do X," OR "I do not do X."

Just spent the week there, walked all over the place, never felt unsafe. Clearly some neighborhoods are better than others, but that's true anywhere.

Was oral in Orlando just too easy?

Yes, it's always helpful if a poster is more specific about what kind of guy and scene they are looking for.  Do they want twinks in Toledo, or muscle studs in Memphis?  Perhaps they're in the mood for bondage in Boston or watersports in Walla Walla.  Is romance in Reno on the menu, or is it fisting in Fresno?  We can always provide better options with just a little more information.

By all means do the favor of providing a link to the guy's listing if he has one. Providers need business in order to stay in business, and referrals from this site are especially valuable. If the phone stops ringing (or nowadays, if the texts stop coming), the provider will eventually hang it up for retirement, and that will be the end of that!

Well he’d certainly be the benchmark by which all others would be measured!

I think you nailed it. Hacienda falls into the BbB category. "Beautiful but Boring". I tried to "make friends" there both at breakfast and in the pool. It was pointless. They all seemed painfully freighted that I dared to say "Hello". It was almost like they wanted to interact but lacked even the most basic social skills required to do so. 
But if all you want is a beautiful place to relax (with a stellar and friendly crew), it’s very nice. 

I've stayed at Descanso, as well as its sister resorts Santiago and Twin Palms. They're all owned by the same people, and they're all really good. Each has a bit of a different vibe. All very good quality and excellent service. All are clothing-optional. My favorite would be Santiago, followed by Twin Palms and then Descanso, but you can't go wrong with any of them. Sometimes it comes down to which has availability.
Hacienda is the gold standard for sure. I haven't stayed as a regular guest, but I've stayed as a guest of a guest and it's a really nice place. It's quieter, and I'm guessing less social than the other resorts. That may be to your liking, or not, depending on what you're looking for. Others who have spent more time there may be able to provide more insight.

I think everything you've outlined is fine, just to have on hand. The only thing you need to mention when he arrives is the offer of beverages. Everything else can just be there in the background. If either of you get hungry, the food can be out on the counter as though it was gonna be there anyway. I like @Vegas_Millennial's suggestion of having the condoms and lube in sight, which is the same thing I do when hosting in a hotel. No need to say anything about it, he'll understand what they're there for.
My only concern is you mention the house will be well scented. I'm not sure what that would involve, but I'd suggest against any artificial "room fresheners" like Febreze, Carpet Fresh, etc. since they can be disagreeable to some people (like me - they give me a headache). Scented candles should be OK though, particularly if they're subtle.
Lastly, a gift is nice but not necessary. Depends on what it is, but as others have suggested, it might be a bit over the top in trying to impress. Just be freshly showered, welcoming, and respectful of boundaries... that's really all a provider is looking for (and of course to get paid).

I think everything you've outlined is fine, just to have on hand. The only thing you need to mention when he arrives is the offer of beverages. Everything else can just be there in the background. If either of you get hungry, the food can be out on the counter as though it was gonna be there anyway. I like @Vegas_Millennial's suggestion of having the condoms and lube in sight, which is the same thing I do when hosting in a hotel. No need to say anything about it, he'll understand what they're there for.
My only concern is you mention the house will be well scented. I'm not sure what that would involve, but I'd suggest against any artificial "room fresheners" like Febreze, Carpet Fresh, etc. since they can be disagreeable to some people (like me - they give me a headache). Scented candles should be OK though, particularly if they're subtle.
Lastly, a gift is nice but not necessary. Depends on what it is, but as others have suggested, it might be a bit over the top in trying to impress. Just be freshly showered, welcoming, and respectful of boundaries... that's really all a provider is looking for (and of course to get paid).

I'll come by for the homemade bread after he leaves.....thanks so much!

I think everything you've outlined is fine, just to have on hand. The only thing you need to mention when he arrives is the offer of beverages. Everything else can just be there in the background. If either of you get hungry, the food can be out on the counter as though it was gonna be there anyway. I like @Vegas_Millennial's suggestion of having the condoms and lube in sight, which is the same thing I do when hosting in a hotel. No need to say anything about it, he'll understand what they're there for.
My only concern is you mention the house will be well scented. I'm not sure what that would involve, but I'd suggest against any artificial "room fresheners" like Febreze, Carpet Fresh, etc. since they can be disagreeable to some people (like me - they give me a headache). Scented candles should be OK though, particularly if they're subtle.
Lastly, a gift is nice but not necessary. Depends on what it is, but as others have suggested, it might be a bit over the top in trying to impress. Just be freshly showered, welcoming, and respectful of boundaries... that's really all a provider is looking for (and of course to get paid).

I think everything you've outlined is fine, just to have on hand. The only thing you need to mention when he arrives is the offer of beverages. Everything else can just be there in the background. If either of you get hungry, the food can be out on the counter as though it was gonna be there anyway. I like @Vegas_Millennial's suggestion of having the condoms and lube in sight, which is the same thing I do when hosting in a hotel. No need to say anything about it, he'll understand what they're there for.
My only concern is you mention the house will be well scented. I'm not sure what that would involve, but I'd suggest against any artificial "room fresheners" like Febreze, Carpet Fresh, etc. since they can be disagreeable to some people (like me - they give me a headache). Scented candles should be OK though, particularly if they're subtle.
Lastly, a gift is nice but not necessary. Depends on what it is, but as others have suggested, it might be a bit over the top in trying to impress. Just be freshly showered, welcoming, and respectful of boundaries... that's really all a provider is looking for (and of course to get paid).

By all means do the favor of providing a link to the guy's listing if he has one. Providers need business in order to stay in business, and referrals from this site are especially valuable. If the phone stops ringing (or nowadays, if the texts stop coming), the provider will eventually hang it up for retirement, and that will be the end of that!

Thanks for the link, and glad you had a good time!