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Here in SF there will be some guys who will refuse to leave the city limits or the gayborhood, no matter what. That might also be the case in other places, even those that are more auto-oriented. I'd agree with @Keenan, 45 minutes would be the top end. For me, an hour would be pushing it. Around here that would equate to 20-30 miles. It also depends on the length of the appointment. I'll be willing to drive 45 minutes for a 2-hour or longer appointment without an extra travel fee, but not so with a one-hour appointment.

I'd suggest telling him "this isn't working for me" and tell him he needs to leave. At that point, he'll either ask what he can do to correct things, or he'll pick up his stuff to leave. In order to avoid a confrontation you may still want to pay the full fee, just to get him to leave with minimal drama. That's the old adage with escorts, you're not paying them to show up, you're paying them to leave. But no tip, and you could also leave a less-than-stellar review. Some other options could include not having porn playing (so he's focused on you, not the porn), and/or communicating to him what you would like to do together or had hoped to do together. Particularly if he's a younger provider, he may need to be given some direction. You're right, a true professional should not be dissuaded by your age or body type. For a lot of us, those things are not an issue, and instead we're more interested in the chemistry and good energy. Some guys will put in their ad descriptions that they're open to all ages and body types... pick one of those guys!

I know him socially, though haven't been sexual with him. Very sexy South Asian/Indian guy, super nice. His dick is something to behold. I met him to take photos of him... here is one from the shoot:

That might have been me saying that! I’ve subscribed to PlaygirlPlus. The guys don’t necessarily have hairy chests, but they have body hair otherwise. Here’s this month’s guy, who is 21 years old:

This exactly. For any appointment a provider needs to be ready to give it his best, and not get the client sick. If he can’t do one or the other, he should postpone until he’s back on his feet.

While it's currently fashionable to bash California, the irrationality of rebuilding applies to pretty much any neighborhood that's been in the path of a disaster. Yes, California leads the nation in wildfires, but it's followed closely by... Georgia. Who would have guessed? And after Georgia, it's Texas, followed by North Carolina, Florida, Arizona, Oklahoma, and South Carolina, in that order. Yet none of those other states attract the scorn that's directed at California. And the damage from wildfires is dwarfed by the damage caused by hurricanes and flooding. The problem is that whenever a community is ravaged by a disaster (whether hurricane, flood, or wildfire), everyone's first impulse is to rebuild as quickly as possible. Hardly anybody is going to accept that their home needs to be returned to mother nature, whether they be in California, Georgia, or the Carolinas... as rational as that should be!

This shows how far things have evolved since these older communities in LA were developed. Pacific Palisades was first developed nearly a century ago, and Altadena in the late 1800s. They have not been built to current engineering standards in terms of water systems, road widths, land grading, etc. Compare these neighborhoods to more recently built hillside neighborhoods in places like Santa Clarita - they look very different. The challenge is the need to retrofit and upgrade these older communities. Rationally, it would make sense not to rebuild at all, but that's not realistic.

Maybe this is a business decision to drive more business to their Rentmen site? Could even encourage guys to advertise on both platforms if they're wanting to offer truly erotic services, which further supports the bottom line. We know RM is not shy about finding ways to generate revenues!

Moderator Note: Friendly reminder that while it’s easy to veer into politics here, let’s not. We don't know why Rentmasseur is making this change, or why the change is effective next Monday. Please stay on topic - thank you!

Photos look great. Very sexy.

I’ve had this kind of thing happen to me a couple of times, but nothing so quite “close to home.” In the more recent instance, the guy told me we’d met before under different circumstances, and that I’d recognize him when he sent me the address. It wasn’t until I’d pulled up to the place that I put two and two together, and then I just laughed. Under those particular circumstances it was ok, and fun. If you’re going to contact him, I’d suggest being up front that you know him from high school, that you respect his privacy, and in return you ask that he respects yours. I wouldn’t mention anything about having had a crush on him, as that could come off a bit creepy. But you could say something like he’s looking good and you’d like to meet if he was up for it. How he receives this depends a lot on what he’s like as an individual, and where he’s at in this stage of life. And I’d suggest signing your name (just first name would be ok). Since you know who he is, it’s only fair he knows who you are.

Your massage buddies moved to SF you say? Do tell! 😛 In all seriousness, maybe you pitch the idea to one of the guys you get a massage from now. It doesn’t hurt to ask. And maybe get some training if you’re not confident in your skills, but it sounds like your buddies liked your skills just fine.

LOL I didn't get that at first... someone in the art department has a sense of humour!

I was at a bar today and they had Athletic on tap. We didn't try it, but will have to give it a try next time. It was the first time I'd seen a NA beer on tap.

I'm cautiously optimistic the trend will extend to men as well. Looking at the new models each month in PlaygirlPlus, the majority of them have full or moderately-trimmed bushes. However this could also be an editorial choice, as the creator of the site has said she said she wanted to bring back the masculinity of the models of the 70s through 90s.

Much like Mouse in Tales of the City, Anita Bryant was the impetus for my partner coming out to his family. His mother really liked Anita Bryant and wanted to go to Florida to march with her. So he told her he was gay. This was in 1970s rural Midwest so it was a big deal.

“Pieing” was a thing at the time, where people would lob pies in the faces of disliked public figures as a form of protest. Anita Bryant’s pieing became legendary.

That’s my experience. I have WhatsApp for those who want to use it, but within the US it’s pretty much only scams and flakes. I don’t think I’ve ever had a legit client contact me through WhatsApp in the US. Clients contact me either through regular SMS/MMS text or by phone. But when traveling overseas, WhatsApp is the primary mode and is used by legit clients. My guess is the primary privacy concerns clients have are to not reveal their true name to the escort, and not commingle their “hobby” with their regular stuff. So a virtual number or burner app is fine for that. I think there is less concern about communication being breached by others. But clients please chime in if I’m mistaken!

That’s correct. In theory it’s supposed to provide push notifications but that only happens about once every four blue moons. There’s an app for just the messenger, but it does not have push notifications, or if it does it doesn’t work. I check it manually a few times a day. It’s a bit faster and more convenient than opening up the site on a browser.

I believe I was at that dinner too! But we hadn’t met yet so I just remember a big table full of people I didn’t know. I attended stag and was so scared. It was the first Hooboy event I’d attended. At one point I went to the restroom and some of the other escorts were there. Nobody said anything to each other! Just peed and washed our hands in silence. I guess none of us knew each other and thought better of introducing ourselves. Fortunately I was sitting next to a very friendly guy who ended up hiring me on another trip I made to LA, so I can say I was able to do one little number at Numbers lol. Too bad the place is gone, really the end of an era.

This seems like a more reasonable assumption. Substitute a few less escort sessions for massages if the guy doesn’t offer massage. And I think for a lot of guys, they’d consider 8 sessions in a week to be a very good week.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I think the tax calculation is reversed in the example. If someone is grossing $336K but then paying 40% of that in taxes, $336,000 would be multiplied by 0.60 to achieve a net income of $201,600. But please enlighten me if I'm not understanding correctly. I'd agree the assumptions are a bit optimistic, but might not be too far off for a successful, well-established provider. More likely they're taking at least one day off per week but not taking four weeks vacation, so that would even out. Also if they're well established, they're more likely to have longer appointments but fewer of them. And there are probably some overnights in there somewhere. But overall, it would still average out to something close to your assumptions. As @Jamie21 mentions, there is a lot of overhead that would cut into the income. This would be the same for any self-employed person. In the US you also need to add in health insurance. Some guys most likely forego insurance, others perhaps are covered by their spouses who might have a salaried job. If I had to guess, I'd say a typical guy is making half this much. Which is decent, but not exactly rolling in it when considering the cost of living in NYC.

It sounds like here they may be recording the beatings to post on social media. The article doesn’t provide the specifics, so that’s just a guess. It’s dumb of the perps because they’re creating evidence. But sucks for the victims regardless.

You're right, I just checked the listings and a lot (most actually) are not listing rates. Seemed like more were showing rates when I was there last summer, but I could be imagining that. In any case, those that are showing rates tend to be clustering in the £250 - £300 range. Is that the range you're being quoted? As others have mentioned, some of these guys from overseas may know each other, so have agreed on a rate (call that collusion if you will). Or they may have someone managing their accounts. That type of management would not be unique to London though, particularly for guys who may have limited English.