Archangel

Entitlement much? 😑 

On 5/8/2024 at 7:20 PM, shadowcatzxxx said:

I use one of those U-shaped travel pillows.  It ain't perfect, but it works in a pinch.

I think this would be good for a bottom too. Sometimes I feel suffocated! 😂 Packing that for the next hurrah! 

1 hour ago, Chancealot said:

Try 1/4 🤦‍♂️

Can I get 1/8? 1/8? I say, 1/8? Can I get 1/8? 1/8? I say, 1/8? 1/8 – Can I get 1/8?

🙋🏻‍♂️ 

1/8! The gentleman in blue! Can I get 1/12? 1/12? I say, 1/12. Can I get 1/12? 1/12? I say, 1/12. 1/12 – Can I get 1/12?

I haven’t thought about checks in a hot minute. That was a nice laugh in its own right.

For me, it means spending time together beyond the bedroom. Escorting in the truest sense of the word. I always hire for a BFE and to me that means we go out to eat. Shopping. Maybe a movie out. Whatever to fill the time. I hire someone to act like a boyfriend for a few days…that’s a BFE.

Someone above said everything but topping and bottoming. What does that mean? Is that to say a BFE is time together sans sex? 🤔 

I see this from both sides. I have it in my line of work too.

Sometimes someone will want to meet with me. They say that and I ask when. They don’t have a specific time in mind. That can be good if I have a full schedule. I can fit them in when it suits me. This tiresome when I pick a time and it doesn’t suit them. Why didn’t you provide me parameters then?

Sometimes someone provides a very specific day and time. That can be good because it suggests they’ve thought about getting together and it will likely be a productive, goal-oriented meeting. It can also be overwhelming or sometimes impossible if I’m very busy or even committed at that time.

A potential client who has a whole block of time open asking a provider when is good shouldn’t be a problem. If the provider says pick a time, pick a time. The provider better be ready for whatever time though. The reason the client asked about when was because his time is open but if he suggests 8:00 pm, the provider shouldn’t say he can’t then. “Pick a time” suggests wide-open availability. 

Luxury goods are often overpriced precisely because they’re luxury goods, not because they’re “good.” It’s about status, not quality.

My grandmother subscribed to the notion the most expensive of something was the best. There may have been a time when that was true, or more often true, but today that’s not always the case. Some people actually quite enjoy the hunt for quality for the cheapest they can find it. And that’s true for some very wealthy people. Again, I come back to the personality point. Some of it’s a mindset thing, not a matter of true ability, capacity, or status.

No one’s time, in my opinion, is worth an “unlimited price.” There are some who may not care, but there are those who do.

A thin person who works out a lot might care about their diet. Or they might not. They might choose to worry about how many calories is in something or not. That doesn’t mean the calories don’t affect them, whether they care or not. And they’re going to still eat. A fat person might care or not care about their diet, and work out etc. but for various reasons calories behave differently for them. The same with money. Money behaves differently for different people. Some of it has to do with how someone comes into money. Some of it has to do with personality. I know people who have nothing to worry about whatsoever with money and are extremely generous but are also extremely frugal in most aspects of their lives because that’s their personality. Everything is refracted through the lens of money. I know some poor people who think they’re Midas and probably should ask about money who don’t seem to understand that for them, when it’s gone, it’s gone til the next paycheck. Behavior around money isn’t monolithic. It’s myopic to think asking about money means you can’t afford it. It might be an insight into a personality more than their ability to spend. 

Imagine governments subsidizing escorting! 😂 That would be great—and unrealistic! 😂 Which party wants to do do that? They might get a sizable bipartisan vote! 😂 

Decriminalizing and regulating the escort market is a good idea fiscally though. Like marijauna.

11 minutes ago, Walt said:

Thinking of it is as an unwritten rule that you may not even understand or agree with is indeed a good way to think about it.

Economically speaking, that makes for an unbalanced market. How can we all play fairly if we aren’t all playing by the same rules? Broadly and specifically speaking?

It seems safe to me to say that if someone, Provider or Client, opens with “hey” and nothing more, it’s likely not a professional exchange coming thereafter. But having an unspoken “rule” about blocking potential Clients over asking for a rate is unfair to the Client. Perhaps money isn’t an issue per se, but the Client wants to know simply to know? Seems like a terrible business strategy and a good way to not get some potentially fine Clients who would be just fine to afford a Provider with high financial expectations. Just my opinion.

1 hour ago, Walt said:

when they can tell from the very first question that it is simply not a match.

How though? Unless they have some sort of unwritten rule like I said earlier “if you have to ask you can’t afford me” mentality and you ask about a rate. Which, their right, but is definitely offputting to many. 

31 minutes ago, builder boy said:

I think asking an overnight rate or weekend rate is perfectly legitimate.  

Oh I agree. But there are those types…

16 hours ago, Thelatin said:

I’ve had a few long term providers, the last one I was very close with, in my will etc.  But some people really don’t want to be “kept”, which I can respect.   I did lie to him about what I was leaving him….it was a lot more.

Never saw those!

Regarding blocking after asking about rate: there’s the notion if you have to ask how much something costs you can’t afford it, among some. Not just for escorts either. If you’re a Provider who’s looking for a certain type of Client, that could be a MO. 

Delusional

But you can’t fault him for not being upfront and direct!

His profile description translates to “looking for a human ATM!” For something like that he would probably have more luck with Seeking Arrangements. He wants a sugar daddy.

“I’m pretty. Pay me!”

I think Vegas is a creature in a clade unto itself, politically and socially. 

I’m glad to see you had a good time. Maybe he’s gotten his act together more. Time was never his strong suit (first or second time I hired him), but I am someone who says early is on time, on time is late, and late don’t bother. Even if you did have a good time, it’s my responsibility (and I hope my free prerogative) to share my experience. And that experience wasn’t good for the repeat hire.

I hire for extended time. So sex isn’t all that it’s about. We often fuck then go do something else. I enjoy when the Provider cums…in me 😈 If I don’t cum during every fuck session, that’s fine; we will have more opportunity when we get back to the room or to my place. The benefits of overnights and weekends over a one-hour session…

It’s not just this hobby that could ruin people. I think of alcohol. I sometimes consume way too much, talk too much to the wrong people, and after I sober up, thank God nothing untoward came of it. Sometimes when I’m ignorant of some new thing I run across on the internet, I stumble upon things that if my browser history became public, I’d be likely ruined. Hell, even legit legal porn in your browser can undo you depending on your line of work. It’s not just escorting that brings with it risk. It is good to be aware though. I tell Providers I’m out with to say that we’re either dating or married. It normally is sufficient if anyone is nosey enough to ask. 

On 4/28/2024 at 1:06 PM, NJF said:

Take the cue and move on 😂 

That’s what I said I do. 😉 

Maime Eisenhower! 🤣

Who’s thought of her in a hot minute?! 

I didn’t read any of the topic but I’m jumping in…in good internet form! 🤣 

I’m the oldest of three. I have a younger sister and we have a younger brother. Both my siblings are straight.

I’ve heard different postulations about birth order and sexuality over the years. Perhaps there’s a statistical correlation, but it well could be circumstantial. Just because something appears doesn’t mean it is.

4 hours ago, Archangel said:

I agree with you.

It’s good to remember that it’s a business, on both sides. Too many Clients can get personally attached to Providers as well. That’s a bit further along than the opening line of the exchange though. But it’s true. Some Clients seem to forget that, although respect for each other as persons is obvious, it isn’t a friendship or “relationship.” It’s a business, which is a relationship, but not like that.

The best Client-Provider relationship is one that can feel like a friendship or “relationship” but maintains the boundaries of business. 

Let me also say…a lot of Providers, especially the younger guys, seem to forget that they’re in a service profession, that they’re the “servant,” and Clients don’t exist to be their sexual slush funds.

Mutual respect and healthy understanding of boundaries is paramount! 

2 hours ago, prof said:

I'm engaged is a profession in which I provide a service. Although not the type of service discussed here, I believe the same rules apply: I should be polite and responsive if I want to continue to have business. No potential client has to tie himself in knots with worry about whether I'll be offended if he starts with "Hi" or says something that just might ruffle my delicate feathers. Usually I am willing to answer a few simple questions. It's business, and business rules apply. Competitors will get the business if I don't follow through. Sure, some potential clients might be goofs, but that's what happens in dealing with the public. If I couldn't do all the above, I'd change professions. 

I agree with you.

It’s good to remember that it’s a business, on both sides. Too many Clients can get personally attached to Providers as well. That’s a bit further along than the opening line of the exchange though. But it’s true. Some Clients seem to forget that, although respect for each other as persons is obvious, it isn’t a friendship or “relationship.” It’s a business, which is a relationship, but not like that.

The best Client-Provider relationship is one that can feel like a friendship or “relationship” but maintains the boundaries of business. 

28 minutes ago, DrownedBoy said:

Me: Hi <escort name>, I saw your ad on RentMen. Call me <my name>. Are you available this evening for a 1 or 2 hour outcall?

Escort: Hi

Me: Are you working tonight?

Escort: Hey

Me: Never mind....

It’s these goldies you live for! 

Wrinkle:

I’ve had Providers ask me what I’m into. And in those instances it’s ME who rolls my eyes and thinks, “I don’t want to detail what turns me on!” So I can appreciate the frustration that a Provider may have with an open-ended “What do you offer.”

Answer: I fuck you! 🤣 

I’ve figured out how to keep the answer to a Provider asking “economical.” But it still seems like a chore. I find that’s when a call (which I like to do with most first-time overnight Providers anyhow) is more efficient.