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Jaroslav

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    Jaroslav got a reaction from pubic_assistance in Contact Person: What If?   
    I have a friend I text first thing every morning. If he didn’t hear from me by noon, he’d be coming over to my place. 
  2. Agree
    Jaroslav got a reaction from coriolis888 in $300 versus $150/$200…   
    With inflation, people are looking to maximize their buck either way – clients don’t have the same spending power and escorts need more spending power. In order to secure any business, I can see some escorts dropping the price. Luxury goods (of which escorts technically are) often see their prices *fall* during times of inflation. 
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    Jaroslav got a reaction from + jessmapex in $300 versus $150/$200…   
    With inflation, people are looking to maximize their buck either way – clients don’t have the same spending power and escorts need more spending power. In order to secure any business, I can see some escorts dropping the price. Luxury goods (of which escorts technically are) often see their prices *fall* during times of inflation. 
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    Jaroslav got a reaction from Marc in Calif in Unprofessionalism   
    I posed the question because, well, it’s not about the time! Except when it is.
    My experience has been it’s not about the time with escorts that care about the service. Again – it goes back to mutual respect.
  5. Surprised
    Jaroslav got a reaction from Danny-Darko in 411 About ANTHONY FLEX   
    He’s the reason I don’t pay deposits. I paid him a deposit to come to me and his Uber but he never showed up for the Uber and ghosted. 
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    Jaroslav got a reaction from + bashful in Unprofessionalism   
    Finally! Someone who’s honest! 
  7. Applause
    Jaroslav got a reaction from + APPLE1 in Unprofessionalism   
    I posed the question because, well, it’s not about the time! Except when it is.
    My experience has been it’s not about the time with escorts that care about the service. Again – it goes back to mutual respect.
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    Jaroslav reacted to + APPLE1 in Unprofessionalism   
    So when the discussion took segways into 'is it time or an experience,' I thought I knew the answer. But, I kept reading, and as it turns out, I was wrong.  
    There are obviously folks who seem to want to shoot their load and leave, and then their are folks who want to spend their remaining "time" touching, kissing, cuddling, shooting another load, etc. Paying attention to what a client communicates prior to meeting as well as the cues, subtle or otherwise, that client displays during the meeting are on the provider to pay attention to. While I am certainly not saying thay all cues are unmistakable, I certainly believe jumping up and getting dressed after I shoot my load, and asking the provider about remaining time after I shoot, are 2 very different, yet obvious, cues about how I expect  the end to go.  
    For me, the ability to read those cues is the difference between a provider who has developed that skill set and one who has not. A provider I tip well and want to engage again, and a provider who I don't. 
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    Jaroslav got a reaction from + nycman in Ghosting 2.0   
    @DWnyc, he didn’t say we’re done. That’s partly why I asked about ghosting. No such message ever was received. He always complained about people not being decent enough to communicate even if it was unpleasant, but then he seemingly does the same thing. I need to take my own wisdom and remember that escorts aren’t friends and you can’t expect them to act that way. 
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    Jaroslav got a reaction from + APPLE1 in Unprofessionalism   
    What if it takes 70 minutes? 
  11. Applause
    Jaroslav reacted to + APPLE1 in Unprofessionalism   
    So... I typically see members in these discussions remind folks to look at the issue from both the client and provider sides. At least twice, by travelling/visiting providers, I have been offered 30 min sessions when I requested an hour. I was a first time client reaching out them. Should I be assuming there is something wrong with these providers and throw up red flags? Are we going to add disparaging comments about @Jarrod_Uncut or other providers because they have offered 30 mins sessions? (@Jarrod_Uncut - "NO, we shouldn't" would be my answer, in case it wasn't obvious). 
    My favorite line in here comes from @DWnyc - "... in the absence of clearly defined guidelines, throw it all out there and see what sticks," and as many have said here, obviously, the WAY you throw it all out there, can have significant effect on the direction the interaction takes
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    Jaroslav got a reaction from spidir in How to ask a regular hire if he'll do more with you   
    Ask. 
    The very fact that you're asking here about a change in dynamic suggests that you care more about the relationship you have with him than he does with you, which is in some ways a problem. Escorts, while they may be friendly, aren't our friends as long as they're taking our money. If you offer more money for what you want above and beyond what you've been doing with him, and he doesn't accept, then that's just the way it is. He's more than likely not going to think differently of you because your'e a client and he has other clients.
    Be careful of thinking the escort feels any kind of loyalty to you because of a historic past good relationship. Your loyalty and concern for him is probably, likely greater than his is to yours. That isn't to say that escorts are bad people or aren't friendly. They're just in this for the work component of it – otherwise they wouldn't be looking to get paid. As long as money is transacted every single time you get together, it's not a business relationship, not a friendship no matter how friendly you may be. I'm friendly with the dentist, but he's not going to check out my mouth for free.
  13. Agree
    Jaroslav got a reaction from JourneysEnd in Unprofessionalism   
    This is the most reasonable response here.
    From my perspective, both sides clearly are forgetting it’s people, not things. There’s little respect here from either direction.
  14. Agree
    Jaroslav got a reaction from + Coolwave35 in How to ask a regular hire if he'll do more with you   
    Ask. 
    The very fact that you're asking here about a change in dynamic suggests that you care more about the relationship you have with him than he does with you, which is in some ways a problem. Escorts, while they may be friendly, aren't our friends as long as they're taking our money. If you offer more money for what you want above and beyond what you've been doing with him, and he doesn't accept, then that's just the way it is. He's more than likely not going to think differently of you because your'e a client and he has other clients.
    Be careful of thinking the escort feels any kind of loyalty to you because of a historic past good relationship. Your loyalty and concern for him is probably, likely greater than his is to yours. That isn't to say that escorts are bad people or aren't friendly. They're just in this for the work component of it – otherwise they wouldn't be looking to get paid. As long as money is transacted every single time you get together, it's not a business relationship, not a friendship no matter how friendly you may be. I'm friendly with the dentist, but he's not going to check out my mouth for free.
  15. Surprised
    Jaroslav got a reaction from Jarrod_Uncut in Ghosting 2.0   
    @DWnyc, he didn’t say we’re done. That’s partly why I asked about ghosting. No such message ever was received. He always complained about people not being decent enough to communicate even if it was unpleasant, but then he seemingly does the same thing. I need to take my own wisdom and remember that escorts aren’t friends and you can’t expect them to act that way. 
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    Jaroslav got a reaction from Rod Hagen in When do I become a creepy stalker?   
    I find it incredibly gobsmacking just how poor at communicating some providers are. When I hire, I want a BFE, so communicating is important for when we’re not fucking. If basic communication is a struggle, then the meetup is going to be poor. 
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    Jaroslav got a reaction from Rod Hagen in When do I become a creepy stalker?   
    I understand the spirit of this, but the one who is getting paid does work for the one paying. You can set the parameters of what you offer when, but ultimately the escort is working…hence why I’m paying. You’re working with someone if I ask you to bring another escort to work with you.
    Arranging a mutually agreeable time to meet isn’t working with me. It’s arranging an appointment. And it’s especially not working with me if you tell me you’re availability and I have to accommodate you. Working with you in that sense means you’re just as willing to restructure your schedule for me as I am for you. I’ve hired very few escorts who will make changes to their schedules for me.
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    Jaroslav reacted to Jarrod_Uncut in Unprofessionalism   
    I actually started offering 30 minute sessions: but it’s simply a menu item on my website. With there being so many sites not showing rates, or enough options for rates: I like to be creative. I offer 30 minutes all the way up to multi-hours and overnights.
    30 minute sessions are popular in Europe and in female and trans providers. 
     
    I get very few requests for half hours because most like the hour or 90 minute sessions. But I offer them as an incentive to get a start. I did one few weeks ago and it worked out as intended: he only had a short work break and I was needing to check out of my room soon. 
     
    30 minute bookings come in handy during morning hotel visits when I’m busy, or for clients who just wish to s**k c**k only to finish, which usually doesn’t take more than 15-20 minutes of our time.

    I think what set him off was the word: sorry. I once heard a judge say: “Don’t say sorry, you’re admitting to guilt”. In your case, you made the assumption of being guilty of a timewaster, even if that wasn’t your intent. 
     
    I think you should have countered your offer then, versus leave the conversation hanging.
    I will admit though: I don’t side with that particular escort’s response because volunteering $60 is putting words in your mouth, which just isn’t mature. I think he lost his cool (which many of us do at times)…but I disagree that you were at fault. The escort should have had a better way of dealing with the question, it’s not like you said, “I only have $60” in which case, he could have said he doesn’t have sessions for $60. 
    However, I don’t think scolding and talking smack back and forth did any Justice either. I dislike when clients try to argue with me. No need to get offended and sassy. Proper thing would have been to say, “oh no of course I wouldn’t lowball you for $60, lol. I was moreso thinking like $250 for 30 minutes”. 
     
    But I wouldn’t even do that because it’s like kissing up to someone who’s already accuse you of being cheap…which idk, don’t feel is good etiquette.
     
    Perfect…
    And yes, the bitchy ball is thrown around far too much. This is another reason I ask for deposits on my site. Few clients argue much about that. It’s either do or don’t. Saves a lot of time bickering back and forth with people over rates. 
     
    One guy 100 miles away in Orange County California said lmao 🤣 and blocked me when I asked him to send a $15 Consultation fee because: he asked for a session in 2 days, but couldn’t host nor had a specific time in mind on the day he asked for…And didn’t send deposit either. So why the heck would I even put any thought into that? So just to test him further, I asked and sure enough: he scurried away. If $15 offends him, certainly my full hour session is way out of his reach.
    I got a good laugh too because I booked someone that day who did send a deposit, and I hosted. 
  19. Like
    Jaroslav got a reaction from + Vegas_Millennial in Unprofessionalism   
    This is the most reasonable response here.
    From my perspective, both sides clearly are forgetting it’s people, not things. There’s little respect here from either direction.
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    Jaroslav reacted to MassageAdam in Unprofessionalism   
    Just to play devil's advocate, I have had several providers (only in Europe) who I hired (and paid) for an hour and they finished in 30 minutes.  When I confronted them about it, they say "Oh, my rate is up to an hour, if I finish in 30 minutes then, you get 30 min".  I mean I would never ask for a 30 min session, but people here saying that a provider can't be done in 30, well... it can be done.
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    Jaroslav reacted to + sync in Unprofessionalism   
    In my view it's all on the provider.  A professional response on the order of "no, I do not offer 30-minute sessions" would have been a better option.
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    Jaroslav reacted to Jamie21 in Unprofessionalism   
    I’d say you’re both at fault. He was rude and you haggled over price. 
    His rate is 300. That’s it, the starting rate. Looks like from the exchange that he expects to bottom. So he has to prep etc whether you book 30 mins or 3 hours. 
    I don’t take bookings for less than an hour. It’s just not worth it and it seems that’s his view too, it’s not unusual. Often clients looking for half hour sessions are the same ones who haggle over price. Most guys I know will take a very dim view of haggling. It’s like saying to the provider “you have valued yourself at X per hour but I don’t think you’re worth that so I’m offering Y per hour”. That’s a poor start to what you hope will be a good session. For this reason, as soon as a client questions my rate I know for sure that they won’t book because I’m not reducing it nor am I going to do anything to facilitate the booking. That’s what he did….his response was that of someone who has already decided you’re not the type of client he needs. He could have been a little less blunt: “Sorry, I don’t do anything for less than $300”. 
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    Jaroslav reacted to ttm269 in Unprofessionalism   
    I think you are missing a point too. I’m not upset by the fact he doesn’t offer a 30 min rate. Like I said, I have had some providers say they don’t offer 30 mins. Totally fine. My issue was with the way he responded (with the whole $60…10 mins comment). He could’ve ignored or responded in a more decent way. Nothing wrong with being kind and professional in the way you communicate with people. It’s common human decency. Seems to me like you all are excusing his toxicity by chastising me for asking an innocent question. 
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    Jaroslav reacted to ttm269 in Unprofessionalism   
    We clearly have different experiences. I have hired many providers for 30 mins on our first-time session. And in my experience, many providers usually have rates for 30 mins. Of course, there are a few who say at least an hour. If he said it was 300 for 30 mins, I would still pay it! I just wanted to know his rate for 30 mins, whatever it was. I ask for 30 mins for my first time with any provider because personally, I think an hour is too much. With time, when I’ve had multiple experiences with the same provider and we have great chemistry, I then request an hour or more with them because I’ve formed a connection and would love to spend more time with them. I’m never comfortable spending a whole hour with someone for the first we meet. Just my personal preference. And again, there are many well-experienced providers who I’ve spent 30 mins with. So I don’t really know where this “no provider offers 30 mins” is coming from lol.
  25. Agree
    Jaroslav reacted to DMICS in Unprofessionalism   
    I've never asked for it but I've definitely been offered 30-minute sessions as an option by a few providers. Some reputable guys, some I'd consider the "Millenial Gen-Z provider" where everything is on the fly and they don't go about the business in the standard professional way. 
    Guess it depends on what you're looking for. Also I recognize over here where I live the "standard" is throw out the door sometimes. 
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