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Agree 100%
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In MY personal opinion, and based on MY personal experiences with gay/bi & "str8" guys....the line between a "str8" guy who goes with guys and a true bisexual is taking the passive role in sex.
I've known a LOT of married/primarily str8 men who don't mind getting a b.j. from a dude.
But once they start sucking dick themselves or taking it up the ass, they are crossing a line in the sand of sexuality.
Just MY opinion, and observation, and where I always leave MY definitions of "Str8" vs. bisexual.
 

Have lost track of how many providers have “boasted” (perhaps trying to bond) about how they recently screwed over some ethnicity / age / body type they assumed they could belittle in conversation 
I asked  one regular why he had redone his profile to insert “white” to describe himself in almost every other sentence. He talked about the rise of “race play” (no judgement) and how that was coded signaling,  but then went on to tell me his theories of how the world should work - him taking peoples money while treating them like cr*p as he can etc (eg not deliver on what was promised but still take the money).  it’s how I imagine much of the “straight” provider framing to be (again no disrespect to clients who seek that out) 

I can spot that technique a mile off. I also use it frequently 😉

One thing folks don’t think about so much (I assume) is how flexible are the rates in different cities. 
I know the cultural bias in this forum is “no negotiating! So unclassy!” But that’s not how the world works. So another aspect is how flexible are prices from the initial quote. I find NYC can seem higher than other cities at the start of a conversation but can become equalized or even lower given the huge range of options here. “Take it or leave it” and “I know my value” type positions are fine in theory and in sales training classes but don’t often work in practice. “Value” is what the market allows both sides to settle on after they take some time to see what is really out there.

Some Straight men have told me they actually enjoy having sex  with men (I’ve pointed out they can’t be straight - that’s a different subject) -often saying things like they feel more desired than by women during it, the better oral isn’t just a cliche, and they can “practice” fucking as gay men will give it away more readily.
I can tolerate that to some degree - esp if consensual - but not the self declared straight who treats someone like shit, then takes their money and goes back to a world with more entitlement.
now remind me, why did the OP ask the question? 

One thing folks don’t think about so much (I assume) is how flexible are the rates in different cities. 
I know the cultural bias in this forum is “no negotiating! So unclassy!” But that’s not how the world works. So another aspect is how flexible are prices from the initial quote. I find NYC can seem higher than other cities at the start of a conversation but can become equalized or even lower given the huge range of options here. “Take it or leave it” and “I know my value” type positions are fine in theory and in sales training classes but don’t often work in practice. “Value” is what the market allows both sides to settle on after they take some time to see what is really out there.

One thing folks don’t think about so much (I assume) is how flexible are the rates in different cities. 
I know the cultural bias in this forum is “no negotiating! So unclassy!” But that’s not how the world works. So another aspect is how flexible are prices from the initial quote. I find NYC can seem higher than other cities at the start of a conversation but can become equalized or even lower given the huge range of options here. “Take it or leave it” and “I know my value” type positions are fine in theory and in sales training classes but don’t often work in practice. “Value” is what the market allows both sides to settle on after they take some time to see what is really out there.

Works both ways of course. Ultimately most clients won’t engage someone they think isn’t worth it and often that isn’t only about the dollars. 

I’ve only had one experience of a “straight muscle stud.” I nearly died of boredom.

Yeah, I unfortunately encountered a straight, meth-addict con artist who did this. I was the first guy who hired him, and the session consisted of him coming in, taking my money, not doing anything, then leaving on some pretext while insulting me for being gay, among other things. Later, according to this forum, he was going on social media bragging about how he rips off gay people. Hopefully one of these days, he'll accidentally take too much meth.
 
This "boasting" mentioned above is real....and holds about the same maturity as middle school locker room talk. Some people never grow up, and not just providers.

Or perhaps being able / willing to fake that interest regardless of orientation 
I think “straight” in this context gives an out to act totally disinterested and even rude - and that does actually attract some people … in terms of signaling what the attitude will be during the session 
I’ve met self-defined straight, bi and gay providers who act like they’re doing humanity a favor by allowing a modicum of interaction to those who they see as bottom of the league - the orientation is less important than how they see themselves vs the client in this case 

Have lost track of how many providers have “boasted” (perhaps trying to bond) about how they recently screwed over some ethnicity / age / body type they assumed they could belittle in conversation 
I asked  one regular why he had redone his profile to insert “white” to describe himself in almost every other sentence. He talked about the rise of “race play” (no judgement) and how that was coded signaling,  but then went on to tell me his theories of how the world should work - him taking peoples money while treating them like cr*p as he can etc (eg not deliver on what was promised but still take the money).  it’s how I imagine much of the “straight” provider framing to be (again no disrespect to clients who seek that out) 

Have lost track of how many providers have “boasted” (perhaps trying to bond) about how they recently screwed over some ethnicity / age / body type they assumed they could belittle in conversation 
I asked  one regular why he had redone his profile to insert “white” to describe himself in almost every other sentence. He talked about the rise of “race play” (no judgement) and how that was coded signaling,  but then went on to tell me his theories of how the world should work - him taking peoples money while treating them like cr*p as he can etc (eg not deliver on what was promised but still take the money).  it’s how I imagine much of the “straight” provider framing to be (again no disrespect to clients who seek that out) 

Or perhaps being able / willing to fake that interest regardless of orientation 
I think “straight” in this context gives an out to act totally disinterested and even rude - and that does actually attract some people … in terms of signaling what the attitude will be during the session 
I’ve met self-defined straight, bi and gay providers who act like they’re doing humanity a favor by allowing a modicum of interaction to those who they see as bottom of the league - the orientation is less important than how they see themselves vs the client in this case 

Have lost track of how many providers have “boasted” (perhaps trying to bond) about how they recently screwed over some ethnicity / age / body type they assumed they could belittle in conversation 
I asked  one regular why he had redone his profile to insert “white” to describe himself in almost every other sentence. He talked about the rise of “race play” (no judgement) and how that was coded signaling,  but then went on to tell me his theories of how the world should work - him taking peoples money while treating them like cr*p as he can etc (eg not deliver on what was promised but still take the money).  it’s how I imagine much of the “straight” provider framing to be (again no disrespect to clients who seek that out) 

I find that this way of thinking also rears its ugly head when it comes to dealing with people of different ethnicities and class.  Their inherited prejudices will come through in other aspects as well, not only with sexuality.

Or perhaps being able / willing to fake that interest regardless of orientation 
I think “straight” in this context gives an out to act totally disinterested and even rude - and that does actually attract some people … in terms of signaling what the attitude will be during the session 
I’ve met self-defined straight, bi and gay providers who act like they’re doing humanity a favor by allowing a modicum of interaction to those who they see as bottom of the league - the orientation is less important than how they see themselves vs the client in this case 

Or perhaps being able / willing to fake that interest regardless of orientation 
I think “straight” in this context gives an out to act totally disinterested and even rude - and that does actually attract some people … in terms of signaling what the attitude will be during the session 
I’ve met self-defined straight, bi and gay providers who act like they’re doing humanity a favor by allowing a modicum of interaction to those who they see as bottom of the league - the orientation is less important than how they see themselves vs the client in this case 

I typically apply the same rule as to non provider meets - I’ll say (unless it’s an immediate booking) “I’ll confirm before heading out  an hour before our appointment and won’t leave till I hear back”. I also request if they’re busy an hour before our time that they confirm from their end sometime before then. 
works quite well as it covers for most of the typical scenarios:
- something better came up but I can’t be bothered to tell you
- I’m partied out and have lost sense of time and commitments 
- I wasn’t realistic on when I’d be free and expected you would hang around but didn’t want to lose the booking 
- I’m so good the prior client wanted to extend so I couldn’t take your call 
If there’s no response I leave a voicemail and text so there’s a record saying given the time it will take me to get there if I don’t hear back within 10-15 mins we can consider the appointment canceled.
I’ve had a mix of apologetic call backs immediately / requests for a later time / abusive “you’re a flake” accusations and - “you’re so uptight … what’s half … one … one and a half hours to wait for the mighty moi”. As well as absolutely no response at all. 
My favorite recent excuse was “I was fine but my partner wanted reshoots for our only fans content so I got held up at the studio” 
 
 

I agree with the consensus - you should have told him.  I don't agree with what seems to be the consensus, that it's normal to be so freaked out by the presence of someone else that of course anyone in their right mind would leave.  Not only did I encounter this situation numerous times when hiring masseurs and escorts, it never really occurred to me to be overly concerned about it.  Did I find it somewhat annoying to actually have to see someone else (for example, a roommate on a sofa in the living area that had to be passed through to get to the bedroom)?  Yes, but not enough for me to make an issue of it.  For those arguing the safety angle, if someone really is intent on doing you harm don't you think it would be just as easy for them to have their accomplice hanging out nearby and then that person enters after you're already naked?  Wouldn't that put you in an even more vulnerable position?  It just seems to me that some level of trust is required to meet a stranger, and whatever screening/vetting process one has is hopefully good enough to at least keep the people with malintent at bay.

it blows my mind that people think that if they have someone coming over- paid or not - that you should have to consider whether you have to tell them they are walking into a space where someone else may be there or not: OF COURSE YOU SHOULD TELL THEM. 
 Jesus Christ!
if you walked into a providers house and there was someone else sitting there, unknown and unexpected to be there, you too would freak out or be unnerved,  regardless of how sex positive they profess to be AFTER THE FACT.  
have some basic decorum and manners. PLEASE. 
 

I had a provider who, right after coming in, suddenly started saying, "Is there anybody else here?" and opening the door to my bedroom, etc., that's off limits to providers.
Entitled little brat - I told him to stop immediately, and after that he's off my list forever.
Asking is one thing; intrusion is another.

I'm puzzled why you're uncertain about this. Yes, you should have informed the provider that your roommate would be home.

If I went to someone’s home, expecting to be alone with the person and see that other people are in the house without being told, I too would leave. It would not feel safe. It’s weird that you wouldn’t tell the therapist that you had a roommate or think that you should’ve. Would you have appreciated walking in to the masseur’s studio and encountering a roommate or spouse he failed to mention?