Simon Suraci

There’s no reason a masseur or escort needs your face or body photos. It’s a red flag that they’re probably cherry picking clients based on whatever preferences they have. I suggest clients pass and move on to the professionals with no hangups about how their clients look.

I’ve organized successful threesomes for clients. I only work with guys who get it, who understand that the client is the focus and we take cues from the client to center the session around his pleasure and satisfaction. Some clients love the voyeuristic aspect, others not so much, and others a bit of both. I’m always working toward what the client wants and avoiding getting caught up in a moment with another provider.

lol. If I had a nickel for every one of those…I could quit the biz! Not that I’m perfect. I let it go.

Good point @Jamie21. I agree.

Yup, that’s more of less what I mean when I say special requests welcome. Doesn’t have to mean weird shit per se, just encouraging the client to ask for exactly what they need, however mundane or niche. So many clients are afraid to ask for what they actually want, especially moreso with massage clients, but even on RentMen some clients have a hard time communicating their needs. On RentMasseur, I can’t explicitly advertise escort services, so that’s one way to indicate generally that I offer more, and that clients should ask me about it. I mention an expanded menu and prompt clients to ask for it.

My experience with Jim Robert was so-so, I wouldn’t repeat. Not bad, nothing negative to say, just ok. Nice studio space, nice shower and convenient to downtown and Deep Ellum. He does mud wraps too which I tried and it was interesting.

I would expect nothing less from you @DrownedBoy 😂

I’ve done some introspection and concluded that I will strive to be unapologetically myself and make an effort to answer inquiries in a more straightforward way rather than be defensive or evasive or say a client’s question is irrelevant (even when it is!). When my response costs me work, so be it. I’m doing myself and the client a favor by making space for the people who most belong in my schedule. The prospective clients who like me for me will hire, and those who have hangups about irrelevant aspects of my life outside work won’t hire. Simple as that. I can’t allow the odd client inquiry to get to me, as unfair as it may seem at times. I’m me. If you don’t like me, I’m not going to cry about it. Quick aside - most clients are mature enough to handle themselves, and ask the appropriate questions and are concerned with relevant information. This prospective client fortunately represents only a minority. Thank you to all the clients here that get it. In the past, I’ve said I can’t be all things to all people and that’s ok. I’m reminding myself of that now and moving on. Plenty of people like me for who I am and those are the best friends, family, and clients I want to surround myself with anyway. Cheers to growth!

I chalk it up to paranoia. Hosts aren’t interested in guest activities unless the guests damage the property or violate the house rules. If something is damaged, the hosts don’t need it on video inside, just confirmation that a particular guest was in the unit to prove that the damage happened on the guest’s watch. Lots of AirBnBs have cameras outside, near entries but not inside. One host in Houston noticed I had visitors coming and going and called it in. Since having visitors does not violate the rules, he couldn’t do anything. Only if I had unauthorized overnight guests would I have violated the rules. So the host made up a story about having a family emergency and asked me to leave, and refunded the balance of my stay. Sucks I had to cancel several days full of appointments and high tail it back to Dallas. You can filter for AirBnBs that do not have any cameras. I do that now whenever possible. I also explicitly ask the hosts before booking if it’s ok to have visitors. I explain that it would not be for parties or loud gatherings, just 1-2 people for a couple hours or so. No problems since I started doing that. I rely on AirBnb, VRBO, and similar services to book my accommodations because it’s the only way I can get everything I need at the right price. Most hotels do not have guest laundry facilities. Keep that in mind the next time you visit a masseur in a hotel and ask consider how many massages have taken place on the sheets you’re laying on. AirBnBs give me access to the amenities I need to provide a good client experience, like parking, nice neighborhood, an uncramped space to set up a table, and laundry. It’s usually less than hotel prices too, which make it worthwhile for me to do the trip. Hotels are not immune from peeping toms either. Anyone see that Netflix true crime doc about the hotel owner who watched his guests for years in the attic vents? Consider your level of risk tolerance and proceed accordingly. The vast majority of accommodations will not have cameras spying on guests inside the unit. You’re more likely to be filmed without your knowledge by a masseur, escort, or psychopath hookup in any location than an AirBnB. Netflix's intensely creepy documentary Voyeur will scare you away from motels forever WWW.RADIOTIMES.COM Journalist Gay Talese uncovers the nefarious tale of a crafty peeping tom

I appreciate the other responses so far. I guess what rubs me the wrong way is that the client is asking me something that presumably either a) requires me to lie in order to satisfy his fantasy, or b) costs me his business if I tell the truth. I would rather tell the truth, but I am irritated that I am more than likely losing his business when I do, so I feel compelled to lie, and that makes me uncomfortable. In this case I tried to avoid losing his business but at the same time not have to lie. It backfired. Keep in mind, I wouldn’t lie about consequential things like health status or something about my body, or anything that would actually impact his experience with me. I’m leaning toward telling the truth and being ok with losing the business. If the client is still interested but wants to follow up with a lot of probing personal life questions, I might say that I prefer not to discuss my personal life and try to refocus attention on him and his needs and how I might be of service.

Hiring and hookups are not the same thing at all. The dynamics and motivations are different. Who you choose (and the fact that the provider is choosing at all) and why you’re engaged is completely different. The only thing that may be the same is the fact that you’re performing certain acts. It’s more difficult to square that when you know you could be investing the same energy but get paid for it A provider’s enjoyment may be much greater with someone he mutually chooses, and for mutual satisfaction rather than only focusing on someone else’s needs. The needs focus is true no matter how attractive the client is to the provider. With hookups, meeting needs goes both ways.

I appreciate the response, I don’t take it the wrong way. I ask because I want perspective outside of my own head. I listen and consider other opinions and I’m not afraid to question myself. I want to grow. So, thank you. You’re right, I did jump to a conclusion. I’m assuming that the prospective client asking this particular question means: 1) he is only interested if the answer is yes, and; 2) by asking the question at all that this information is important to him. More important than all the typical more relevant questions like rates, availability, location, travel, services, what I can do for him, physical attributes, etc, that he hasn’t even asked for before this question. The only things he asked before this was my sexual orientation and if I cum a lot. I sent him a video of me blowing a big load and was straightforward about my orientation. 3) he will not be interested if I answer no. The question puts me in a position of knowing full well that by answering ‘no’ that I will most likely lose the work. It sucks because I want the work and I don’t want something that has no relevance to prevent me from getting the work. Should I just be prepared to lose the work, then? That’s what I’m hearing. I realize I came across as defensive. However, the expletives in the reply shows me a lot sooner how unreasonable and short fused the client actually is. If the client proceeded to hire me I would have walked into a bad situation. If it didn’t come through in texts, it certainly would have come through in person. I’m actually glad I didn’t see this client. Had I not been defensive, I might have missed that and seen a bad client. (That’s me being defensive about being defensive 😉)

My personal sex life is a casualty of being in this biz. It’s one of the tough costs of doing this work that clients fortunately don’t have to think about. The question for me is not how, but if I do it at all. Oftentimes I lack desire for sexual intimacy outside work for a number of reasons: 1) At any given time, I’m emotionally and sexually spent, and can’t do any more if I wanted to. I would have to do double duty work of advocating for my own needs in addition to (yet again) focusing on others’ needs in order attract their interest and commitment to meet. I don’t hire, but I see the appeal. I’d rather have someone focus on my needs and not their own for a change. 2) Opportunity costs. I’m concerned that wasting my mojo on something unpaid may affect my ability to provide a stellar experience for the next client. That next client may only be willing to request a same day appointment. I have to be ready, or prepared to miss out on that income I need to make my life work. 3) there’s the psychological mind fuck dynamic of: “I could be getting paid $XXX for this right now and I’m giving it away for free.” Almost like volunteering your professional skills and time for an uncharitable cause. My personal fulfillment in the experience has to exceed that psychological barrier by so much that I can let it go and actually enjoy myself. That’s a tall order, at least for me. 4) I have no time, patience, or energy for it. I could spend weeks on apps and never get anywhere. Lots of frogs out there. I know because I use apps for work and man, it’s pretty bleak. What little time left I have outside work is better spent on other things. 5) Clients are all over the apps. It would be a nightmare trying to manage who’s blocked, who’s a client, who’s a potential client that I just don’t know yet. People know what I do and want to hire me or talk about work on the app, or spend chat time comparing hiring with hookups as if they are exactly the same thing. Boring. Then there’s worrying about presenting yourself the wrong way and losing clients because of it…it’s all just too much to manage. 6) STIs. The fewer encounters I have, the less likely I will be to contract or transmit an STI. I constantly consider my clients and want them to feel comfortable that I’m not being unnecessarily reckless. I have way less sex compared to many of my non-provider peers, even though this is my job. My clients, on average, aren’t having that much multiple partner sex either, but it varies. When I’m out of commission due to recovery time from clearing an STI, that’s lost income. So yeah, it’s a cost to consider, and one I want to minimize. 7) Few people are worth my time. 😎 I have a partner. His needs come first after work obligations. Recreational activity is necessarily limited to the periods we decide we’re open. So…the preceding points notwithstanding, it ain’t gonna happen when we’re not open anyway! 9) Considering all the above, the planets will sooner align before I get some off the clock. So my answer is: I just don’t. The deck is stacked, at least for me. Then again I’m sure other providers don’t put as much thought into all this as I do, and they’re probably better for it.

Maybe. But then I once in a while I get conversations like this that turn south rather quickly: <more disrespectful client drivel…> <client blocked> ^ I agree with this. It takes an emotionally mature client to handle hiring with grace. I’m wondering how best to answer the relationship status question. I just don’t like lying which is the easiest way out of having to answer the inevitable follow up questions about the details of my relationship and how it works. Those answers at best distract, and at worst put off the client. I’m wondering if lying is the best way to go about maintaining the fantasy illusion for the client… …but then again my best clients are the ones who know me quite well and connect with me on a deeper level after hiring me at least a few times. They appreciate my honesty and it doesn’t put them off. In fact, they have more respect for what I do and why I do it. I have a family and a life outside work like anyone else. They get it. Just sucks having to backtrack and say, actually I lied about being single…blah blah blah.

My experience is a lot like @Jamie21. I schedule appointments 30 mins apart. They’re not always back to back, but it’s not unusual. 30 mins is just enough time for me to wrap up, settle payment, and clean my massage equipment, use the restroom, drink water, catch up on texts, and mentally refresh myself on who the next client is and what they booked. When I have back to back appointments scheduled and the client shows up late, I end at the time they were originally supposed to end, out of respect for the next client who I honor by starting at the time they booked. If it’s really late, I offer to reschedule for another time. If I have nobody booked after I see the client and give the client their full time. Most of my business is massage and spa services. I don’t think I could operate this way if I was primarily or exclusively offering escort service. In that case, I would take fewer clients and spread them far apart from one another, like one in the morning, one in the evening or something like that, maybe more than two clients depending on the particulars of each client’s needs that day. To respond more directly to the OP question, no shows happen because people are people. There will always be a percentage of no-shows, both on the client and provider sides of hiring. You can’t completely remove from human nature selfishness or disregard for other people.

I’m in a 10 year long relationship. 11 years next month. He knows exactly what I do for work and accepts it. He does not massage or escort or anything like that; he works in another professional field. We have our challenges at times like any couple, but overall we are happy and this world of hiring is just another normal part of our lives because of my work. I consider my personal life my business and not really my clients’ concern. Sometimes clients ask me if I am single. I wonder why. I tell them that whether I am single or not that I am not open to any romantic relationships, which is true. Therefore, I find the question irrelevant to their hiring decisions. I share freely about my relationship with trusted regular clients when they ask, but it bothers me when a new contact asks me this as something they need to know before they decide to hire. I would never ask the client’s relationship status or decide not to see them based on their response. Why is it different when clients ask me the same? Clients: Is this criteria important to you? If so, why? I perform some aspects of the “boyfriend experience” for clients mature enough to handle the limitations and enjoy it for what it is. That’s it. Whether I have any casual or serious relationships outside work has nothing to do with the client or their experience with me, so I just don’t see why it is so important to some clients. I interpret what is coded in the question is that the client has some sense that I am - or could be - totally theirs, available 24/7 for free and maybe that prospect, however slim, excites them. In reality, it’s just a fantasy. I could lie saying I’m single to humor them. I could tell the truth and by so doing either alienate them or else invite a host of follow up questions I don’t want or see the point in answering. I find the relationship status question irrelevant to them hiring me. What do you think is fair? Do your providers have to be single (or at least you think that they are single) for you to want to hire them? Is there some relevance to the question I’m missing? Providers: How often do you get a question on your relationship status, and how do you handle your responses?

Yeah, he probably had to delete his old profile and didn’t bother to write new ad text. Always a red flag. There’s usually a troubling reason he deleted the other ad, but not always. Regarding the non-committal language, maybe he wants to pick and choose who he will get physically intimate with after he meets them? This approach makes for a bad provider, of course. He doesn’t sell himself on the muscle worship only scenario, so who knows.

I know, right? I might do something like this for a very few tantra oriented clients, but for my average client it’s too over the top. Some of them just want to get going if they have a busy day with limited time for a break and they are halfway off the table or already dressed by the time I finish washing my hands. Sometimes they just don’t want to move or engage or make any decisions or think at all for a bit, to take in the feeling of total relaxation and contentment. I encourage my clients to take in that moment, to take some deep breaths and to pace their time transitioning off the table.

Here’s a service online that offers to write fake RentMasseur reviews. I am shocked and concerned. Had no idea this was a thing until I stumbled upon it today. Now that I think about it, it makes sense. Why wouldn’t someone monetize fake review writing services? Be careful what you trust online. Word of mouth from known clients is more reliable than anonymous reviews. CoM is also a good place to verify information about masseurs and providers you’re interested in hiring. Buy RentMasseur Reviews and Grow Your Massage Business | Getreview GETREVIEW.CO.UK Learn how to buy verified reviews from RentMasseur.com through Getreview.co.uk and boost your... By the way, I was Google searching if it’s possible to link RentMasseur profiles to one another, in my case for 4-hand massage services. I searched “rentmasseur how to link profiles”. Haven’t found that answer yet (I suspect it’s a ‘no’). This review writing service site happened to pop up seven hits down and I clicked it to read later. Rest assured, I would never, ever hire a service like this to manufacture reviews for me. ^!!!

Here is a link to some relevant info on RentMasseur defining therapeutic, sensual, and erotic massage. I don’t necessarily agree or disagree with anything stated here, but it’s an interesting read. Note: oral and anal sex are not considered part of their erotic massage definition. Thought that was a good point to keep in mind. A massage can be extremely erotic without oral/anal, but it can include those too. Your mileage may vary by provider, what you discuss beforehand, and how much you’re paying (and by extension, tipping!). Massage Types | RentMasseur - Gay Massage & Male Masseurs RENTMASSEUR.COM Rentmasseur is the place to choose from the most skillful gay massage proffesionals that offer sensual...

Yes, it is a mysogynistic comment. Funny though it is, I don’t think we should brush attitudes like this under the rug. All people can benefit from a therapist. Women may have different experiences than men, but we all can benefit from working through issues in our lives with a professional. If you’re a human being, you’re subject to life, and life experiences sometimes feel like a punch to your face. Not everyone can access therapy and that’s a bummer, but everyone that can access therapy should take advantage of that privilege, even when they are not in “crisis”. A lot of times the work we do in therapy keeps us from having to come to the point of crisis in the first place. It can help us process, heal, and live in a more healthy, fulfilling way. It helps our relationships, and by extension the people around us.

Agree. I still do late night sessions but only for trusted regular clients or if a client books it 24 hrs in advance. That policy acts as a natural filter both for safety and for better clients. I’m too old to deal with the flaky desperate last minute late night requests anymore. Plus I have a commute to my work location now, so that’s not happening after I go home.

Oh, dear 🤦‍♂️

Yup. Best not to judge a book by its cover. All kinds of people want service, including those with menacing gang tattoos, hard faces, or they’re in denial, or never had an experience like this before. Meet them where they’re at. They’re deciding to see you, which means they want to be there. Have an open mind. Use caution and good sense. Communicate when something is unclear. “Is this ok? Are you comfortable when I do xyz? Would you rather I do abc?” Some clients are just weird. Not dangerous, just awkward. Some people are on a neuro-atypical spectrum. Some are just nervous. All of this is fine and normal. Take it in stride. Read the client and respond appropriately. Protect yourself when necessary.

^yes, please do be careful to type text directly or to not format it with a color. It’s impossible to read when your text is formatted in dark/light when your audience is viewing in the opposite compatible mode. If you’re copying and pasting from elsewhere, make sure to click the prompt that pop up right after you paste saying paste as “rich text” instead of plain text. Dark mode is so much better on your eyes. It boggles my mind that people still don’t use this option in 2023. To each their own. Welcome. Please do reference the plethora of past posts on this very same subject. Here is a recent one that references several other threads along the same lines: