Simon Suraci

I chat and share here and there, but nothing that would identify a particular client or compromise their privacy. Sometimes clients ask about what my other clients are like. I give them aggregate, approximate data based on my observations of many. Nothing specific about a single client. I think that’s fine.

Phone convo is great, but needs to be scheduled. Even 10 mins notice helps. Only a small percentage of my day do I find myself alone, in a quite private place, without distractions, and ready to pick up a call. If the contact isn’t in my phone, it goes directly to VM without a buzz. The ringer is on silent/vibrate 100% of the time. Something along the lines of what @rvwnsd posted in a text is perfect. If I can respond right away, I will. If not, I have all the information in the message and can respond as soon as I free up. Voicemails are underrated. You can do a version of the above by voice as well. Email is fine. Same protocol, different platform. Expect slower responses. RentMen Messenger is buggy and slow, so expect delays and allow plenty of time for responses. Text is the fastest and easiest method. I can text responses in many situations where I couldn’t do so by voice. Say, for example, I am in the sauna at the gym with a bunch of straight sweaty hunks.

Men of all body types and ages can be tops or bottoms, or verse or side…. There is a market for every type. Hung bottoms. Small dick tops. Muscly, husky, bear, otter, twink, twunk, masculine presenting, feminine presenting, etc. Any of those and more can be any role at any age. There are no rules. Sometimes the novelty of a twink top is what a client wants and because there are fewer falling into the stereotypical boxes for that age or type, providers offering something less common may find themselves pretty in demand. When providers find their preferences or skills changing, it makes sense to lean into those. It’s also smart to lean into what you perceive your market wants. Nobody is dictating who your market is, though. You can choose to appeal to the majority or seek out niche audiences. Both have their advantages.

I think the point is that those labels don’t matter. A person can identify as xyz and think they want one thing only…until they meet someone who makes them feel differently. It happens all the time with me. Tops arrive with an agenda, and by the time our appointment is over, they are telling me they want to get fucked for their next session. That happened today, in fact. By the way, it’s not from me pressuring them into anything or forcing a certain dynamic. It’s just how my clients respond to our natural chemistry. It can go the other way around for me too. Maybe this never happens to you, and perhaps rarely for some others, but it happens. Those who are sufficiently open minded and in touch with themselves will recognize it when it happens and embrace the unexpected. It can be delightful when you’re open to what life brings.

I had this exact scenario recently. Top client hired myself and another to both bottom for him. Some kinky fun too, among other play. It was hot! After the client had his way with us and shot a huge load all over my buddy escort, I cleaned his body with my tongue and my buddy got up and pounded a load into me…as the client watched smugly and a third guy (masseur) came in to join us for a few minutes until the client was ready for his massage to follow. Then my escort buddy left having completed his responsibilities for the session and my collaborating masseur and I proceeded to give the client a 4-hand massage, getting him off again for the finale. I pride myself on providing good top service, but I can bottom with the best of them. Being “shared” is part of the deal sometimes, and I’m here for it. Whatever the client wants! Cheers to finding what you want. Filtering your search online is one way, but it won’t capture everyone. All you have to do is find someone you like and ask. Even better if he’s a regular. That’s how my client got what he wanted.

FriendBoyPro is an alternate. I got a client from that one today. It’s has a small fraction of the popularity of RM in the US though. I use MintBoys as well. Same story, a small fraction of the popularity, seldom get clients from there. Adam4Adam has “pro” profiles and you can filter for those in search. I would like a solid competitor to give RentMen a run for their money.

Yes, clients do this too. It happened the other day actually, when he arrived. He wanted to bottom and I was ready and able to do that for him but I mentioned it’s best to request ahead so I can make sure to be ready for whatever he needs in the session. I’m just grateful he didn’t wait until mid-session because it puts me in the awkward position of having to pause to discuss business, or otherwise refuse him and suggest we plan it for next time and discuss business afterward.

I have vertigo, but it’s seasonal; it fades after the Fall.

Context matters, and pricing is part of the context. To your point, he was already charging on the high end of the spectrum in your market at the time, so you would be justified in expecting more than a massage, although nobody is obligated to do anything that wasn’t explicitly discussed beforehand. Giving or receiving oral seems more than reasonable given the context.

I agree with others on wrapping up and getting out of there. Good on you for writing a review. It sounds like the OP scenario was for an escort. The following is in response to @KensingtonHomo’s comment regarding masseurs. Regarding the BJ, it’s perfectly reasonable for anyone to charge you for sex work (and that is what it is). It doesn’t matter who is giving or receiving. It’s all the same. Massage has an appropriate rate for it depending on your local market. If we had no boundaries on what we will do for a massage fee, every massage would essentially be underpriced sex work, or overpriced massage. We certainly have the latter available with the $200+/hr massage guys all over. The former you will find masseurs not charging extra but being picky about what they do with whom. If you don’t want them to be picky, pay for the services you want. If what he quotes you is too much, pass. Don’t expect a masseur to give it all away for free to anyone who asks…for a reasonable massage fee. When he does, be a gracious client and tip him generously. Giving the option for extras, in my book, is fine. Nobody is begging you to suck their dick as if you’re doing them a big favor. The service is about YOU and making YOU happy, whatever it looks like for YOU. Big caveat here. Upselling is unprofessional. If you (client) are asking for extras and the masseur quotes you, no harm done. He has every right to say no or offer additional services for a fee. If he suggests or offers without any indication from you that you want extras, take it as a sign of unprofessional behavior and move on to better providers. Find them right here on CoM.

I’m attending all the main festivities this year, arriving Friday, staying in a poolside room at InnDulge. Newell, of my collaborating masseurs/escorts is my guest. We are both available throughout the weekend individually and together, although I’m sure Newell will probably be busy with his regulars in PS. I have a few of my own in PS I imagine will want to book some of my time. My focus and priority, however, is getting to know you all. If you hire me in between the main events, great, but I mostly just hope to relax and have some fun with y’all. Kicking off with the Fri pool party Dinner Saturday evening Pool party Sunday afternoon Breakfast Monday morning Newell may join the pool parties, probably won’t join the meals since those require paying ahead and he will want to stay flexible for client appointments. I check out late morning on Monday, and head back to San Diego. I can come earlier or stay longer should any of you want to hire me for outcall service at your accommodations. I can take incalls or outcalls Friday evening, Saturday morning, Saturday evening, Sunday morning, and Sunday evening. When I’m not busy, chat me up poolside at InnDulge. Looking forward to meeting everyone!

I work in my gym time around clients as much as possible. As long as clients are booking ahead it’s no problem. I don’t really care what time of day I go, as long as I go. Sometimes a client contacts me for something last minute when I am already at the gym and I have to tell them I can meet in an hour, counting finishing my routine, showering, and getting back. They get ruffled that I’m not on call 24/7 and that I can’t teleport. Sorry guys, if you didn’t plan ahead and you only have the same hour that you’re contacting me to meet…that’s on you.

^Some truth here. Most of you guys aren’t like this, but I know a few clients who are. There’s overlap here with kinks surrounding getting a rush for paying for things, especially for sex. It gives the patron a sense in the moment that the act is a manifestation of his own power to control and command other people, to have anything he wants, no matter how outrageous the price. Being able to pay is more important than the service itself. Sometimes it’s just about the concept of luxury i.e. less about the goods you’re getting and more about the exclusivity and sense of self worth or even a rush you get spending because you can for its own sake, not because you should. Again, this is not most of you here. Just an acknowledgment that a market like the one mentioned here, however small, exists. Nobody charging a $1000/hr is serious about growing or sustaining an in-person sex work business. Maybe a handful of exceptions like Cade Maddox, and even then not because he needs the $, but because his well known status allows him to charge that much. Personally, I don’t get the appeal, Cade is not my kind of guy. To each their own.

1) I don’t know yet. It’s been a tough seven months since the move from Dallas to San Diego. It takes a long time to become well established and stable in a different city and my overhead is quite high. I must be stable before I can hit the road for long stretches again. Maybe shorter trips at first in the Southwest region, then branch out. My goal is to do more traveling this spring/summer/fall, to include Texas. I gotta get through paying for the upcoming CoM annual PS trip in April. We’ll see, maybe after that. I invited a fellow masseur to stay with me. I have won over many regulars in SD, and still continue grow a lot. All signs are positive, and I cover my basic expenses, however I’m not yet reaching the necessary milestones I’ve set for myself - hoping this next six months I will break through. A good many of my massage regulars were seeing other guys who weren’t doing a good job and now their clients see me instead. My escort clients are becoming faithful regulars. Since the average client for any of my services hires me about once a month, I need a LOT of regulars to keep me going and in a stable position. Working on it, expecting to get there within the coming months. 2) I implemented a modest rate increase after my move. So far, so good. My prices are competitive with my local market. Can’t speak to Texas or elsewhere. I focus on offering a good value, to attract repeat business. I want clients to feel like they got more value for the same $ they would spend on someone else. Some of those dabbling in the biz might be trying to see what they can can get (even if it means fewer appointments) and aren’t thinking long term about developing repeat business. Different approaches at play here. 3) Thank you. As a provider and a client myself, I appreciate and expect transparency.

I have a group of Dallas clients who visit the Tin Room a couple times a week. Would you like me to connect you with them? It might be more fun visiting in a friendly group. As always, some nights will be better than others. Regardless, you get out of it what you put into it in terms of energy, tipping, and openness. I heard a lot of the dancers are straight, but they make it a good time anyway.

I enjoyed Down Low. Not an Oscar film, and it doesn’t red to be. It’s a fun ride without having to appeal to everyone. Dark, irreverent, bitingly funny, and full of heart at the same time. Zachary Quinto plays the repressed younger-middle aged man perfectly. And who doesn’t enjoy more screen time with him ❤️?! His character reminds me of some of my clients. Lukas Gage brought so much comedy. I really enjoy when a film takes me past what situations I think the characters can get out of, and then goes even further, such that I am forced to suspend my disbelief and sense of realism and embrace the comedy for what it is, and the richness of the characters moreso than the plot or any sense of realism.

I recommend hiring him for escort services. Very hot, nice guy, very masculine. Fantastic booty (he’s a bottom). Rates are on par with other guys in the area. Massage service is a joke, quick rub-and-tug style with mechanical HE, but man is he hot.

Friend: “Bros before hoes!” Me: “My bros…ARE hoes!”

I really don’t like discounts. I’ve done them in the past and occasionally I list a discount because one of my platforms requires I do this for better placement. The reason I avoid discounts is because it attracts bargain hunters and those who might not otherwise be willing/able to pay my normal rates, and often do not tip. One of my clients got upset that I wouldn’t offer him my active duty service member discount. At the time I offered one but he was not active duty, only a retired diplomat. Also he was paying my regular rate for previous appointments. When I declined, he threw a huge fit saying how horrible I am, blah blah blah. Discounts give some clients a false sense of entitlement. Discounts are a privilege, not a right. And nobody is obligated to offer a discount. I’ll honor any discounts on whatever terms I advertise. Some of my discounts have worked out well, where a client visits me that was on the fence or was hesitant to try my work at my normal rate. Once they try me, they see the value of my work and have no problem returning and paying my normal rate, and some tip as well. My best discount is a referral and I offer this at any time. It’s the one discount I continue to offer with complete confidence and has brought me the most (and best) business over time. It costs me the most initially, but it pays back many times over. “Refer a friend; you both get 50% off your massage. Applies after your friend completes their first appointment.” Overall, discounts are a toss up. It attracts good and bad clients.

Haha yes, this particular guy is therapeutic only. A bit of hyperbole to make the point that he’s so good that he’s about the only one I would go to such lengths for. If I’m publicly doing anything in the nude in Times Square, I should be getting paid for it. Or arrested. Or both. Any NYC folks PM me so I can add you to my interest list. When I have enough I will reach out to make a trip.

Some won’t do what you want at all. Others, it’s a matter of fee structure. Some give it away for free...*sigh* Be direct, and don’t be shocked if he asks for more fee for higher levels of service. I can’t serve multiple loads a day every day for a massage fee. Operating that way, my faucet would run dry by noon. The best clients get that.

Agree, there are no hard and fast rules. I actually appreciate clients that book further in advance, maybe even weeks ahead. A few days or a week is perfectly sufficient. Same day / same night…take your chances. That means you didn’t plan properly or someone flaked on you and you’re contacting a backup provider, or you are the client I dread who will only see me last minute, sometimes with only 15 min notice. Don’t be that guy. I hear the logic here but I would also consider reputation as equally important. The kind of guy that treats you this way is the same who will take things out of context and fail to see where he is being unreasonable or difficult. Say things escalate and you quote someone 150% of what you normally would, that word could get around: “he quoted me $XXX. Can you believe that guy? What a prima donna!” …when in reality the client is the problem and his behavior is reason he’s getting an inflated rate, but he won’t see it that way and blame you and may even trash talk you to others.

Nothing wrong with asking for info not listed on the ads, even from a dozen providers at once. As long as there’s not a lot of back and forth wanting free random conversations or sexting behavior, or “negotiating” behavior, I have no problem responding to inquiries. It means someone is considering hiring me and I want that. Be direct, ask for specific things and you’re good. Maybe you hire me tomorrow, maybe you hire me next year. Maybe never. That’s fine. Just respect the provider’s time as best you can, and you’re golden.

It sounds like in this case the masseur takes the right approach by only scheduling appointments when the roommate is not home i.e. the functional equivalent of a dedicated space for the duration of the session. As long as nobody else is coming or going or present, that sounds fine to me. Also, he did the right thing by alerting you ahead of time. I agree, you should reschedule for a time that he has the privacy to offer you all the services you want, in an atmosphere you want. A few of my workspace peeves: Rule 1) no other people in/around your work space, or hanging around outside of it. The client shouldn’t encounter anyone besides a neighbor or doorman or stranger on the street or in a hall or lobby. Certainly not the masseur’s significant other, family, or friends. Rule 2) no pets in/around your workspace. People have allergies and pets are distracting, even the most well behaved ones. Who wants a dog licking your feet or whimpering for attention in the next room or a masseur snapping their fingers or raising their voice to ask their cat to exit the room? Or worse, the pet jumps on the massage table. One of my clients told me he visited someone else and the masseur set out a glass of water for the client, upon request. The cat started lapping from the glass during the massage. I don’t blame the client for feeling weird about that. Rule 3) provide a dedicated workspace Rule 4) provide a sufficient buffer in between appointments so that clients will not cross paths on their way in/out. These are just some of the problems with working out of the same place you live. If you live with other people, you must have a division of space that offers complete privacy, with a separate entrance and 100% dedicated bathroom. A client should never feel like their privacy is at risk or that they are being monitored. One of my favorite masseurs worked out of his apartment and he had clients coming and going through his living room, which functioned as a waiting area. Appointments were back to back, no buffer, so you often saw his previous client leaving before you went in, and again in reverse on your way out. His partner lived separately at the time but was frequently in the living room too. So weird. It never bothered me, but I can’t imagine a lot of my clients would ever put up with that. Good thing his massage is so good. For him, I would have the appointment on the street in the middle of Times Square if it suited him. He is just that good.

There is no comprehensive, widely used, purpose-built platform. Mr Number is one of the closest things you will find and it’s dodgy, at best. Anything else we use we keep close to the vest, and for good reason. If you knew about it, it would defeat the purpose. Next topic.