Simon Suraci

Yes, clients do this too. It happened the other day actually, when he arrived. He wanted to bottom and I was ready and able to do that for him but I mentioned it’s best to request ahead so I can make sure to be ready for whatever he needs in the session. I’m just grateful he didn’t wait until mid-session because it puts me in the awkward position of having to pause to discuss business, or otherwise refuse him and suggest we plan it for next time and discuss business afterward.

I have vertigo, but it’s seasonal; it fades after the Fall.

Context matters, and pricing is part of the context. To your point, he was already charging on the high end of the spectrum in your market at the time, so you would be justified in expecting more than a massage, although nobody is obligated to do anything that wasn’t explicitly discussed beforehand. Giving or receiving oral seems more than reasonable given the context.

I agree with others on wrapping up and getting out of there. Good on you for writing a review. It sounds like the OP scenario was for an escort. The following is in response to @KensingtonHomo’s comment regarding masseurs. Regarding the BJ, it’s perfectly reasonable for anyone to charge you for sex work (and that is what it is). It doesn’t matter who is giving or receiving. It’s all the same. Massage has an appropriate rate for it depending on your local market. If we had no boundaries on what we will do for a massage fee, every massage would essentially be underpriced sex work, or overpriced massage. We certainly have the latter available with the $200+/hr massage guys all over. The former you will find masseurs not charging extra but being picky about what they do with whom. If you don’t want them to be picky, pay for the services you want. If what he quotes you is too much, pass. Don’t expect a masseur to give it all away for free to anyone who asks…for a reasonable massage fee. When he does, be a gracious client and tip him generously. Giving the option for extras, in my book, is fine. Nobody is begging you to suck their dick as if you’re doing them a big favor. The service is about YOU and making YOU happy, whatever it looks like for YOU. Big caveat here. Upselling is unprofessional. If you (client) are asking for extras and the masseur quotes you, no harm done. He has every right to say no or offer additional services for a fee. If he suggests or offers without any indication from you that you want extras, take it as a sign of unprofessional behavior and move on to better providers. Find them right here on CoM.

I’m attending all the main festivities this year, arriving Friday, staying in a poolside room at InnDulge. Newell, of my collaborating masseurs/escorts is my guest. We are both available throughout the weekend individually and together, although I’m sure Newell will probably be busy with his regulars in PS. I have a few of my own in PS I imagine will want to book some of my time. My focus and priority, however, is getting to know you all. If you hire me in between the main events, great, but I mostly just hope to relax and have some fun with y’all. Kicking off with the Fri pool party Dinner Saturday evening Pool party Sunday afternoon Breakfast Monday morning Newell may join the pool parties, probably won’t join the meals since those require paying ahead and he will want to stay flexible for client appointments. I check out late morning on Monday, and head back to San Diego. I can come earlier or stay longer should any of you want to hire me for outcall service at your accommodations. I can take incalls or outcalls Friday evening, Saturday morning, Saturday evening, Sunday morning, and Sunday evening. When I’m not busy, chat me up poolside at InnDulge. Looking forward to meeting everyone!

I work in my gym time around clients as much as possible. As long as clients are booking ahead it’s no problem. I don’t really care what time of day I go, as long as I go. Sometimes a client contacts me for something last minute when I am already at the gym and I have to tell them I can meet in an hour, counting finishing my routine, showering, and getting back. They get ruffled that I’m not on call 24/7 and that I can’t teleport. Sorry guys, if you didn’t plan ahead and you only have the same hour that you’re contacting me to meet…that’s on you.

^Some truth here. Most of you guys aren’t like this, but I know a few clients who are. There’s overlap here with kinks surrounding getting a rush for paying for things, especially for sex. It gives the patron a sense in the moment that the act is a manifestation of his own power to control and command other people, to have anything he wants, no matter how outrageous the price. Being able to pay is more important than the service itself. Sometimes it’s just about the concept of luxury i.e. less about the goods you’re getting and more about the exclusivity and sense of self worth or even a rush you get spending because you can for its own sake, not because you should. Again, this is not most of you here. Just an acknowledgment that a market like the one mentioned here, however small, exists. Nobody charging a $1000/hr is serious about growing or sustaining an in-person sex work business. Maybe a handful of exceptions like Cade Maddox, and even then not because he needs the $, but because his well known status allows him to charge that much. Personally, I don’t get the appeal, Cade is not my kind of guy. To each their own.

1) I don’t know yet. It’s been a tough seven months since the move from Dallas to San Diego. It takes a long time to become well established and stable in a different city and my overhead is quite high. I must be stable before I can hit the road for long stretches again. Maybe shorter trips at first in the Southwest region, then branch out. My goal is to do more traveling this spring/summer/fall, to include Texas. I gotta get through paying for the upcoming CoM annual PS trip in April. We’ll see, maybe after that. I invited a fellow masseur to stay with me. I have won over many regulars in SD, and still continue grow a lot. All signs are positive, and I cover my basic expenses, however I’m not yet reaching the necessary milestones I’ve set for myself - hoping this next six months I will break through. A good many of my massage regulars were seeing other guys who weren’t doing a good job and now their clients see me instead. My escort clients are becoming faithful regulars. Since the average client for any of my services hires me about once a month, I need a LOT of regulars to keep me going and in a stable position. Working on it, expecting to get there within the coming months. 2) I implemented a modest rate increase after my move. So far, so good. My prices are competitive with my local market. Can’t speak to Texas or elsewhere. I focus on offering a good value, to attract repeat business. I want clients to feel like they got more value for the same $ they would spend on someone else. Some of those dabbling in the biz might be trying to see what they can can get (even if it means fewer appointments) and aren’t thinking long term about developing repeat business. Different approaches at play here. 3) Thank you. As a provider and a client myself, I appreciate and expect transparency.

I have a group of Dallas clients who visit the Tin Room a couple times a week. Would you like me to connect you with them? It might be more fun visiting in a friendly group. As always, some nights will be better than others. Regardless, you get out of it what you put into it in terms of energy, tipping, and openness. I heard a lot of the dancers are straight, but they make it a good time anyway.

I enjoyed Down Low. Not an Oscar film, and it doesn’t red to be. It’s a fun ride without having to appeal to everyone. Dark, irreverent, bitingly funny, and full of heart at the same time. Zachary Quinto plays the repressed younger-middle aged man perfectly. And who doesn’t enjoy more screen time with him ❤️?! His character reminds me of some of my clients. Lukas Gage brought so much comedy. I really enjoy when a film takes me past what situations I think the characters can get out of, and then goes even further, such that I am forced to suspend my disbelief and sense of realism and embrace the comedy for what it is, and the richness of the characters moreso than the plot or any sense of realism.

I recommend hiring him for escort services. Very hot, nice guy, very masculine. Fantastic booty (he’s a bottom). Rates are on par with other guys in the area. Massage service is a joke, quick rub-and-tug style with mechanical HE, but man is he hot.

Friend: “Bros before hoes!” Me: “My bros…ARE hoes!”

I really don’t like discounts. I’ve done them in the past and occasionally I list a discount because one of my platforms requires I do this for better placement. The reason I avoid discounts is because it attracts bargain hunters and those who might not otherwise be willing/able to pay my normal rates, and often do not tip. One of my clients got upset that I wouldn’t offer him my active duty service member discount. At the time I offered one but he was not active duty, only a retired diplomat. Also he was paying my regular rate for previous appointments. When I declined, he threw a huge fit saying how horrible I am, blah blah blah. Discounts give some clients a false sense of entitlement. Discounts are a privilege, not a right. And nobody is obligated to offer a discount. I’ll honor any discounts on whatever terms I advertise. Some of my discounts have worked out well, where a client visits me that was on the fence or was hesitant to try my work at my normal rate. Once they try me, they see the value of my work and have no problem returning and paying my normal rate, and some tip as well. My best discount is a referral and I offer this at any time. It’s the one discount I continue to offer with complete confidence and has brought me the most (and best) business over time. It costs me the most initially, but it pays back many times over. “Refer a friend; you both get 50% off your massage. Applies after your friend completes their first appointment.” Overall, discounts are a toss up. It attracts good and bad clients.

Haha yes, this particular guy is therapeutic only. A bit of hyperbole to make the point that he’s so good that he’s about the only one I would go to such lengths for. If I’m publicly doing anything in the nude in Times Square, I should be getting paid for it. Or arrested. Or both. Any NYC folks PM me so I can add you to my interest list. When I have enough I will reach out to make a trip.

Some won’t do what you want at all. Others, it’s a matter of fee structure. Some give it away for free...*sigh* Be direct, and don’t be shocked if he asks for more fee for higher levels of service. I can’t serve multiple loads a day every day for a massage fee. Operating that way, my faucet would run dry by noon. The best clients get that.

Agree, there are no hard and fast rules. I actually appreciate clients that book further in advance, maybe even weeks ahead. A few days or a week is perfectly sufficient. Same day / same night…take your chances. That means you didn’t plan properly or someone flaked on you and you’re contacting a backup provider, or you are the client I dread who will only see me last minute, sometimes with only 15 min notice. Don’t be that guy. I hear the logic here but I would also consider reputation as equally important. The kind of guy that treats you this way is the same who will take things out of context and fail to see where he is being unreasonable or difficult. Say things escalate and you quote someone 150% of what you normally would, that word could get around: “he quoted me $XXX. Can you believe that guy? What a prima donna!” …when in reality the client is the problem and his behavior is reason he’s getting an inflated rate, but he won’t see it that way and blame you and may even trash talk you to others.

Nothing wrong with asking for info not listed on the ads, even from a dozen providers at once. As long as there’s not a lot of back and forth wanting free random conversations or sexting behavior, or “negotiating” behavior, I have no problem responding to inquiries. It means someone is considering hiring me and I want that. Be direct, ask for specific things and you’re good. Maybe you hire me tomorrow, maybe you hire me next year. Maybe never. That’s fine. Just respect the provider’s time as best you can, and you’re golden.

It sounds like in this case the masseur takes the right approach by only scheduling appointments when the roommate is not home i.e. the functional equivalent of a dedicated space for the duration of the session. As long as nobody else is coming or going or present, that sounds fine to me. Also, he did the right thing by alerting you ahead of time. I agree, you should reschedule for a time that he has the privacy to offer you all the services you want, in an atmosphere you want. A few of my workspace peeves: Rule 1) no other people in/around your work space, or hanging around outside of it. The client shouldn’t encounter anyone besides a neighbor or doorman or stranger on the street or in a hall or lobby. Certainly not the masseur’s significant other, family, or friends. Rule 2) no pets in/around your workspace. People have allergies and pets are distracting, even the most well behaved ones. Who wants a dog licking your feet or whimpering for attention in the next room or a masseur snapping their fingers or raising their voice to ask their cat to exit the room? Or worse, the pet jumps on the massage table. One of my clients told me he visited someone else and the masseur set out a glass of water for the client, upon request. The cat started lapping from the glass during the massage. I don’t blame the client for feeling weird about that. Rule 3) provide a dedicated workspace Rule 4) provide a sufficient buffer in between appointments so that clients will not cross paths on their way in/out. These are just some of the problems with working out of the same place you live. If you live with other people, you must have a division of space that offers complete privacy, with a separate entrance and 100% dedicated bathroom. A client should never feel like their privacy is at risk or that they are being monitored. One of my favorite masseurs worked out of his apartment and he had clients coming and going through his living room, which functioned as a waiting area. Appointments were back to back, no buffer, so you often saw his previous client leaving before you went in, and again in reverse on your way out. His partner lived separately at the time but was frequently in the living room too. So weird. It never bothered me, but I can’t imagine a lot of my clients would ever put up with that. Good thing his massage is so good. For him, I would have the appointment on the street in the middle of Times Square if it suited him. He is just that good.

There is no comprehensive, widely used, purpose-built platform. Mr Number is one of the closest things you will find and it’s dodgy, at best. Anything else we use we keep close to the vest, and for good reason. If you knew about it, it would defeat the purpose. Next topic.

^Behavior in real life. ^Truth. Recently I had a client from right here on CoM. He booked a 90 min massage. In person, he asked for more than massage, describing what he wanted (I so appreciate that btw) and we came to an agreement on the rate before starting. This is the right way to do it, unless you book everything explicitly ahead, which helps ensure I can plan better to offer exactly what you need. I did my full back routine on him, and then before moving on to my arms routine, did some brief, playful erotic work that he was getting into and then he flipped over, unprompted. Since we didn’t get very far into the massage, I asked if he wanted to continue for a while longer, or switch to the bed for playtime. He chose the latter. We took our time. After our activities concluded, we showered together. There was still 10-15 mins of his time remaining. I asked if he was satisfied with everything we had done, or if I can do anything else for him. The full time is his. I asked if he was satisfied with the massage time and he said yes. I was concerned because it was so short, but for some, the play is more important. As long as the client is satisfied, that’s all that matters to me. Sometimes I go over, often close or right on time, and occasionally I go under as the natural flow of things take their course. The time doesn’t matter. Client satisfaction does. Regarding the OP questions, there are no ugly clients. Just clients. We don’t care what you look like. Your money is just as good as the next guy’s. Hygiene you can control, so yes please respect yourself and your providers by taking care of that. You never know what is going on with substance abuse. If you feel uncomfortable, cancel, or don’t see the provider again. It is not your responsibility to intervene or involve yourself. People with real substance abuse problems will get help when they decide to, not when someone says they should or calls emergency services.

This is not a good provider. The professionals are dedicated to their craft, in tune with and concerned with fulfilling the client’s needs. Not trying to save 15 mins here or there. Certainly not with gags like colored lube. That stuff comes around to bite you. Hire professionals.

I agree with much of the above. I would broaden your physical criteria a bit. Is uncut a must? How important is the age? A girthy cock is fun, but if you have never taken one of any size before, it’s wise to start with a medium size, nothing really long or particularly girthy. Once you try it, it’s easier for you to gauge what you can take and will enjoy the next time around. Maybe you can get some of your wishlist, but since this is your first time, it’s going to be more important to find the RIGHT guy for the job - someone experienced, patient, and professional. Some of the 27 year olds you mention may be hot in a photo online, but many of them have short attention spans and even shorter patience for newbie clients, especially those with zero experience with adult men. Chemistry matters a hell of a lot more than how defined an abdominal muscle is or how flawless the skin is around his eyes. A 30yo+ man will most likely be your best bet, at least for your first time. You can always seek out others later that fit your wishlist more closely. It’s just a lot to put on a 20 something…and have to tick all of your other boxes too. Trust me, it will be more fun to hire those young studs after you know what you’re doing. My recommendation: search providers in your area on RentMen that strike your fancy, but please don’t filter on looks alone. You need someone who looks good, but more importantly, someone who will do a fantastic job for you. With your short list, search the forums in the deli section and see what info you can find on any of your guys. Take your time. Ask questions. Read reviews. Based on what you find, you will likely be able to narrow down the list to a shorter one. Find the best matches for a first time experience. Let your other criteria go for now and consider it a bonus if the right providers tick your other boxes. Be flexible when they don’t. Once you have that done, reach out to the few you selected stating that it’s your first time bottoming and that you want him to be patient with you. Assuming he’s good with that, ask about rates and any pertinent info like incall or outcall and any questions you have. Don’t be afraid to circle back while you inquire of others and shop around. Tell them you are considering hiring and will get back to them. That approach doesn’t leave them all hanging in the meantime. Take responsibility for your own health. Whether hiring or hooking up, it’s up to you to assess your own risk tolerance and protect yourself. Talk to your doctor about PreP and get on it. Generics are covered on all basic health insurance plans. Condoms are a good safeguard for any STI, not just HIV. If you’re willing to use one, that is another way for you to take responsibility. You can’t outsource responsibility by putting it on a provider. Not only is this impractical, but impossible, for reasons already stated. If you don’t want to get on PreP or can’t, use a condom. If you want your bareback fantasy, get squared away health wise first. Again, your first time might be with a condom and that’s not the end of the world. You can have bb sex in subsequent hires if you like. Either way, be prepared and take responsibility. I have been the first time for many a man older and younger. I know how to treat virgins and how to be patient and respectful and sensitive, and how to make it a special, meaningful, and memorable time. But I also know when to kick it up a notch once he’s feeling emotionally and physically comfortable. You won’t find that delicate balance on Grindr, and very few 20 somethings can handle such a task with the necessary care. When you are ready to hire, check out the forums here that discuss douching. It makes all the difference not having to second guess and worry about hygiene. Be confident. Be ready. Enjoy.

I feel a lot of prostates in the course of my work. A LOT. I know my way around and what’s normal and what isn’t. I’m no doctor and I do not offer medical advice, but I do note abnormalities and bring them up to clients after their session to recommend getting checked. Not just prostate issues but dermatological ones and chiropractic ones too. Should any of you need a “preliminary exam”, you know where to find me! 😉 While I am there, I make sure everything is working ok…

<Simon creeping out of the shadows, skin burning more and more intensely>…. I never schedule back-to-back appointments when I know for sure each of them wants me to cum. Even if I *could* do it doesn’t mean I should. I’m all about quality control. I want the client to be happy with my intensity leading up to and including that special moment. Lots of cum too. I don’t want to shortchange anyone with a modest dribble, now do I? I’ll do two or more per day when one or more of the following apply: 1) I know one or more of the clients doesn’t want/need/expect me to cum, or prefers me not to cum. 2) The appointments are spread out i.e. one in the morning, one in the evening. That’s the typical scenario when I have more than one. 3) I have backup i.e. another guy the client hired for us to tag team together. Not a substitute, but more to get me going and the client going moreso than 1:1. These are uncommon, but great to have (and super fun too!). 4) I have a lot saved up from not ejaculating in day(s) prior for whatever reasons, some related to my work, some not. 5) Client wants a tantra style session wherein the client, myself, or both of us achieve extended non-ejaculatory orgasms. These can be quite intense, and most clients aren’t up to all that. A handful are. Since I don’t ejaculate, but still have an orgasm, I carry over the built up sexual tension and energy to my next appointment. Lots of clients want my cum but aren’t willing to pay for that level of service. I don’t cum for regular massage clients, even though they request or beg for it. When I explain I can’t cum six times a day on command for a massage (which is hard, honest work on its own btw), most seem to understand. That’s most of my business. Since I am only cumming for those paying escort rates, the economics of it all tends to balance itself out well.

I’m sure the staff don’t give a sh*t either… They see everything in hospitality