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Indeed, Cimetière du Père Lachaise is a must see. Peaceful and beautiful.

Shef looks like something my mom would enjoy doing. She was delivering groceries on app services, but there’s not enough work or any decent paying orders available to keep her busy. I’ll have to share this with her, and try it myself sometime.

My suggestion: tip generously. Enjoy his service. Leave the rest for him to figure out on his own.

Whatever your relationship, it’s important to define and maintain boundaries. That’s the key.

Good, reputable providers will not play games or try blackmailing you. We have our own careers to think about. You will read stories of scams and robberies and such because those negative interactions are the most memorable and likely to be shared. Those are the exceptions, rather than the rule. Sure, you may have so-so or bad providers, but they’re not all out to get you! The vast majority of us are hard working men doing our best to satisfy our clients and make a living for ourselves and our families. Aside: many of us are single, but some of us have families relying on us to take care of them. We’re people. Doing anything to harm our clients is outside our own best interests, both in the short term and the long term. Pick the right guys using the advice here and you’ll be fine. Any provider with a proven track record is going to be your best bet.

Haha I actually had no such photos posted neither publicly or in a private/premium gallery. I’m planning to include some in my next photoshoot.

I snooze from 7:00am-7:30am. I really struggle getting up before 6:30am for anything. Check any work messages in bed, never jerking off in the morning, rise and stumble out of bed bleary eyed, looking like hell (and feeling like hell), put on grubby clothes, and start farm chores. I never make my bed unless I’m trying to keep up appearances for company or unless I’m washing sheets. I care about a lot of things. A tidy bed nobody sees is not one of them. Put the dogs in their fenced area, let the ducks out of their coop to forage while I work, change out the soiled duck water, clean the tubs, top off the feed, fill the drinking water, spread fresh dry pine shavings bedding, collect the duck eggs, and usher the ducks back into the coop (they follow my voice commands). Let the dogs back out, wash and pack the eggs for market back in the house. Visit the head, maybe read some CoM there or google a random curiosity on my mind. Use the bidet, shower, always a hot shower, 15-20 mins mostly just getting hot water on my face to wake up. I can’t leave the house feeling like a human without a hot shower. After the shower, I’m bright eyed and bushy tailed. No coffee or any stimulants. A quick bite of healthy cereal. Water, meds. Hit the gym if no appointments scheduled first thing, or work out later if something is scheduled early. Sometimes run a few errands before commuting to the studio. Then…it’s off to the races taking clients.

Hey @Vin_Marco would you take on a photography client? We’re both in SoCal and I need some new photos done. Or maybe a nearby referral if you happen to have one. I understand you aren’t doing pro photo shoots anymore, but figured I’d ask! I’m anything but a muscle god, just a regular guy next door you would never know does this work looking at me on the street, but I have my own modest appeal…😉 Sexy shots sorely needed.

Massage by Robert: Massage San Diego WWW.MASSAGEBYROBERT.COM I am a massage therapist in San Diego speacializing in clinical massage. Massage by Robert is... One of my clients recommended Robert for therapeutic massage. I trust the client and really enjoy good therapeutic work, so I gave him a go. I keep expectations low when I do this, knowing many clients have a pretty low bar and haven’t had a truly excellent massage before because they rely too heavily on the sexy masseurs who don’t have much skill but look good and provide extras. Seeing Robert was a worthwhile experience, for sure, despite the crazy booking procedure I outline below. Excellent therapeutic massage skills, addressed all my problem areas and I felt it for days afterwards. Really good value. On par with the other guys around, or less, but way more skilled. He’s a rare gem. I’ll start with this. He’s a handsome guy. He’s also straight, married, with kids. I didn’t chat with him much but that’s what my client said since he sees Robert regularly and knows more about his life. He works out of an office in a professional building in Mission Valley. There are no extras, not even a hint of anything sexy and he’s fully clothed, and you’re draped with a sheet and blanket the whole time, moving it around as needed. He carefully follows massage school protocol in this respect. So...if you want any kind of hanky panky, he’s not your guy. See me or others like me for the fun stuff. By the way, my work is actually excellent on the therapeutic front AND I do the fun stuff, which also a rare find. If you’re like me and appreciate really deep, highly skilled therapeutic work and don’t care about extras, you will really enjoy seeing Robert. He’s not on any of the usual sites, just his basic personal website linked above. His schedule is fully booked every single day for 6 months solid, which is as far out as his system will allow you to book. The ONLY way to get an appointment with him is to sign up for his waitlist, which will alert you when an appointment becomes available. If you mark 60 or 90 minutes you are more likely to catch a cancellation slot. If you mark a 120 mins appointment those cancellations rarely pop up. If I could do two hours, I would, but it’s very difficult to get those on a waitlist-only booking policy. Plus you have to be fast and book right when the alert pops up on your email or text, otherwise it goes away in minutes. If anyone else sees Robert, please do share. I expect nothing but positive things from those who read this post and go in with the correct expectations. The only negative is his lack of availability. However, he’s totally worth every penny and the hassle.

Paul Kubek is great to work with. Reasonable cost and high quality. He listens to your needs. Based in Dallas. He does “boudoir” style shoots and nudes of all kinds although those may not be immediately apparent on his portfolio pages. Dallas based gay photographer helping the LGBTQ+ community share stories | head shots, social media portraits, weddings. WWW.PAULKUBEK.COM Dallas based gay photographer specializing in head shots, social media portraits and wedding...

I’ve done foursomes for clients. All three of us providers are very professional and understand that it’s not paid playtime for us, although the client gets off on watching us perform live for him. It helps that none of us are in a relationship with one another. It keeps business strictly business. We make the client the focus. We all grope him from three sides like a big group hug, and kiss, stroke, lick, and stimulate his whole body, frequently switching positions, roles, and activities. We involve all of us in any given moment, and of course the client is in the middle of all the action and calling all the shots when he feels like calling them. The rest is intuition and knowing what the client likes doing and being done to him and what he likes to see others doing, and we all lean into those things. Another plus is taking advantage of all our individual strengths and talents and combining them. Yes, we may look a bit different from one another, one older, one younger, and me in the middle, but the beauty of it is diversity. The client gets off on the whole buffet, not just favoring and being distracted by the “hottest”, or youngest, or most hung, etc. The result feels more like 1+1+1 = 6. You could hire us all individually and enjoy all of the separate meetings (and this particular client has), but together it’s a massive, explosive experience. Worth trying at least once in your life. Meetings like this I consider successful. If you’ve ever wanted multiple providers before but have concerns like those already mentioned in this thread, the key is to hire the right providers. Professional men who ‘get it’, and ideally know one another, get along well, and have worked together before in a similar capacity. If they don’t know one another prior, they should at least have experience with similar arrangements. When the client is spent (after a very long time of buildup), he likes to watch us continue and will still touch us and find pleasure in what we’re doing. It’s 100% about the client’s pleasure. The second he shows any wavering of interest we either stop or change to a different activity. We providers can hook up with one another on our own time, if we wanted to, although we don’t. It’s not about us feeling good or getting off. It’s about client satisfaction. For us, it’s business. We’re really good at our jobs and we want to get paid fairly for doing it. And we do. Win-win-win-win! I play well with others. As it goes, I tend to be the ‘madam’, organizing these types of meets. To be clear, this isn’t trafficking. It’s independent guys choosing freely to work together for an agreed-upon fee. Basically informally arranged contract work. If booking multiple providers interests you, I highly recommend booking these things with at least a few days notice, or more if possible. Getting schedules to align and coordinating things takes time. Sometimes it all works out with little notice. More often, it’s not possible to arrange something on short notice. If you’re in my area or if I am traveling to yours, hire me! If I haven’t worked with someone before, I am willing to arrange a consultation with the other guy(s) you want, to see if it would be a good match and go from there.

It’s also about the value you are providing to each client, not just the time spent. I would charge much differently for a gang bang to repeatedly work me over than I would for one client to do the same. The value to each client is basically the same, but the escort is realizing half that value in terms of compensation. Do whatever you are comfortable with. I would insist on knowing what to expect beforehand, however. If you consented to having the second person, all good, but it’s a basic sign of respect for the client to inform the escort of what is happening during the session. Some of my best clients have been couples and they each compensate me their share. Not always 1:1 what I would charge them individually, but close. Sometimes the same. If it’s one fee for two, I agree to that ahead of time, but I usually don’t do that.

I had no problems hosting at my apartment in Dallas. It helped that the building was secure, requiring a fob for access to the lobby and elevator. Clients couldn’t come up to my door without me first escorting them from the lobby up the elevator. In San Diego, I host at a place I rent for work only. I feel better not having clients at the home I own. The primary reasons for the separation are practical. I live in a more remote part of the county and fewer clients are in that area or willing to travel to that area. Also, the quality of clients in that area is much lower, on average. My studio location attracts much higher quantity and quality of clients, including travelers since it’s a lot easier to get to from the areas travelers tend to stay. One of my neighbors is a creep and I know he would be taking note of the comings and goings. The last thing I need is him reporting something.

I wouldn’t dream of having a handler or company managing me, taking a cut of my earnings, and having complete control over which clients I take, etc. Yes, managing all that myself is a lot of work, but it gives me freedom and autonomy. That’s one of the things I really like about this job. Plus clients like engaging with me directly. It adds to the quality of the whole experience for them. When I feel in my gut that the client is not a good match, I don’t take the client. I have a hard time handing that over to another person. I personally know of no other escorts or masseurs who use some sort of manager.

I concur. Secondary cities work best for me. Then again, I don’t have abs. I would never make it visiting in the big metros. I stay very busy in the medium to smaller markets, and I don’t care if I’m the best looking guy to grace their scene or not. Clients like and value my work, and from what they say, they like how I look too. I keep a humble head on my shoulders though. I hear positive comments about my appearance from from people booking me, but not all the comments from all the ones who decide NOT to book me based on how I look. In a way that’s a healthy boost, but I know my appeal is not universal, and that’s fine. The important thing is that I’m in demand, busy working and earning. Also, clients mostly hire me for massage. Skill matters, so even if I’m not their peak fantasy guy, I offer lots of value in my skills. Same goes for escorting. Looks are important, but how I make the client feel is even more important. When I strategically select cities, I do well. That means no NYC, no LA. I have a masseur friend in SF who lets me use his place when I’m visiting, so I will go there, when I otherwise wouldn’t consider that market.

@Jarrod_Uncut I stand by what I suggested. Neither you nor the client proposed a specific meeting time. That’s on you both.

Here’s a relevant thread. I do general companionship from time to time, but it’s not in high demand.

I like Fresh N Lean so far. The only thing I would change is the sodium content. My next one to try is Trifecta, which seems to have better options for low sodium criteria than the others. Maybe 300 mg per meal (or less) vs 650 mg or more for the other services offering “low” sodium plans.

I tried Factor recently. I agree, it’s a little too heavy and fatty for my tastes. I like Fresh N Lean, been using the prepared meal delivery service for a few weeks. The Mediterranean diet option is nice but I wish I could have it in an even even lower sodium format. My body is salt sensitive and I control my borderline high blood pressure with diet alone, no meds. If I keep eating 650 mg of sodium per modest microwaveable meal 2-3 times a day, I will be well on my way to a heart attack in a few years. I realize this amount is perfectly safe and normal and even low for most people, but my body can’t tolerate that much salt on a daily basis. My next one to try is Trifecta. They have some even lower sodium options that fit my tastes.

Once in a while I have clients requesting dom/sub play with many of the elements discussed above, or similar ones. Most of those types want to get into sub space. I get into a dom space for them. It’s normal. Consenting adults enjoying what they love is a beautiful thing. If I can make part of my living from fulfilling a role for someone, all the better!

Does anyone know of resources for affordable therapists or non-profits who have specific experience seeing sex worker clients? I have some local ones good for sex positive, lgbt+ and alternative lifestyle stuff, but I cannot afford them. My insurance is through the state because I am self employed it and doesn’t cover much, certainly not any mental health providers appropriate to my specific needs. I tried Pineapple Support but they denied me saying they only see “online” performers such as cam models, porn actors, and fan site content creators. Seems backwards to me that they won’t support a SW who does his work IRL. Ironically, one of the (many) issues I want to discuss in therapy is the possibility of becoming an adult content creator and how that may affect my life and psyche. Apparently you have to already have made the irreversible decision of posting content all over the internet before anyone is willing to help you deal with the mental fallout from doing so.

Some members write you off as a chronic complainer but I do genuinely want to see you to grow and succeed. We sympathize with you, especially other providers. I would love to see a positive post from you one day celebrating how much work you’ve got over the past 12 months explaining how making some key changes, and maybe even a move, has helped you succeed. A lot of clients are inconsiderate jerks and wishy washy, but that’s how the industry works. It can be better in some places compared to others, but we will always have flakes and time wasting behavior to deal with. People will lowball us, question our rates and policies. It’s human nature, and there’s no changing it. Add to that the racism component and it’s even worse. You have more years of experience than I, so you know these things even better than I do. That’s what puzzles me about the repeated posts about clients…being clients. What we can do to cope and improve is focus on the things we can control. We don’t have to explain or justify our policies. We don’t have to get mad at the client for disagreeing with our boundaries. We don’t have to convince the client we are right or fair. We don’t have to change the client’s mind about anything. They either conform to our policies and rates for the services they want, or they don’t. When they don’t, move on. I agree with the other comments; it’s best not to engage clients demonstrating a lack of respect for you and your work and how you choose to do business. Establish your boundaries and policies and stick to them, even if it means losing some work. That’s time saved not dealing with bad clients. When there are not enough good clients in your market, move to another one. If you can’t do that, maybe pick up some other work temporarily to help you save up for a move. We have different views on deposits, but you have your reasons. Whatever your policies, the key is to not make exceptions to them. When you do (infrequently, for some compelling reason), make it clear to the client what it is and why you are making the exception so they don’t have the impression they can expect the same thing every time. You might consider keeping your rates the same regardless of frequency so people don’t have any illusions about being entitled to a “regular client” rate when they only book you months or years apart. Or establish a hard line policy like they have to book you at least once per week/month/quarter or whatever so they know why they aren’t entitled. A hot tip about that client 50 mins away: People need firm time commitments otherwise they sit and stew in impatience and uncertainty. Every minute that goes by, the more they think that you aren’t coming, or will come way later than they want or expect you to. The uncertainty is what kills them. When you commit to a time you know you can make “I will arrive by 5pm and text you when I park”. That gives the client the freedom to relax and anticipate your arrival and do other things in the meantime other than worry and second guess.

On tour, I might consistently do 6 a day. In my home city, more like 2-4 per day. Sometimes zero, sometimes 6. It varies a lot. 4 on average after a year or two of building up a more consistent client base. I don’t even want to try cities in the Midwest heartland areas. If it’s as bad as your experiences tend to be on a regular basis, I wouldn’t want to go try scouting there. Low ballers: thank you, next. Politely hold to my rates and move on. I don’t attempt to engage. Flakes: unavoidable, just part of the biz. I focus on filling my schedule with as many regulars and repeats as possible so there is less time for bad actor newbies to potentially waste my time by filling up my schedule then not showing. Some communicate regarding a true emergency and will reschedule. Some are jerks and I maintain a one strike policy for those types. A4A: I’ve had some success using it. A lot less than the usual places, but plenty of clients find my pro ad and contact me. Very few try to waste my time asking for freebies or hookups because the ad is clearly labeled “pro” and the content is descriptive enough. A good chunck of A4A inquiries are serious. Lots of requests for rates, but only some of those book. Just how it goes. Uncooperative clients: I set boundaries and say I need to know by x time if you’re committed to y appointment and whatever we discussed. I’m available from a to b. I will be busy from c to d, but I will get back to you asap if you catch me when I am working. When they don’t respond, won’t commit or whatever, I move on. No waiting around for those who won’t respect me or my time. Late night, last minute requests: I reject them, state my open hours and tell them my new late night policy, which is they must book 24 hrs in advance if they want an early or late appointment outside my normal hours. On tour, I might relax this policy somewhat. I keep growing a thicker skin every day. Instead of complaining and lamenting, I move on to the next thing, work related or otherwise. I lack the emotional energy to care as much as I used to. Yes, I get frustrated, but I don’t let it get to me as much as I used to. I have my moments. Water off a duck’s back.

I agree. Decriminalizing the biz will make it safer and more equitable for everyone. In the short term, rates would almost certainly go down as more and more people enter the business. There would also be more clients over time to meet some of that increasing supply as it becomes more acceptable, accessible, safer, and more affordable to hire. I imagine a glut of initial supply and a slight increase in demand and steady increase in demand over time. Not everyone is cut out to be a good SW. Supply and demand curves I think would fall into equilibrium over time as people try this work and discover it’s actually pretty difficult in many ways. Even just being able to list our rates freely and openly would make rates more competitive. Some of the mystery around “ask me” would go down since everyone knows the going rates and it’s easier to compare. You wouldn’t have to be an experienced client to know when someone is charging a lot more than the market supports. That puts pressure on rates downward overall. This is all just a fantasy thought exercise, however. The USA is nowhere near the political and moral place it needs to be to make such a progressive change at the federal level.

Glad to share. Agreed, these points won’t be the right choices for everyone. There are many ways to work and be successful. Different strokes! If your travel model is turning enough of a profit, more power to you. Good to hear you respect your own limits. I know for me I have to stop after 6 clients because service quality goes down after that point and I need to rest for the night. I have stamina though, so I make the most of my time when I travel. It’s expensive to travel. Not only are you defraying travel costs like transportation, food, and lodging, you’re also paying all your normal monthly bills like rent, utilities, car payment, various insurances, mortgage, etc. on top of those. If I couldn’t consistently do so much volume on the road, it frankly wouldn’t be worthwhile for me to travel. Taking 0-2 clients a day for weeks at a time while taking break days every few days would leave me utterly broke. If it works for you, great. I acknowledge my everyday costs in California are pretty high already without travel, so that’s one of my major concerns when I consider a road trip, how much I need to earn, and whether it makes business sense.