Money first

[KeepItReal]

I tend to agree (from experience) if the money question gets raised in the first few minutes, I am likely to be disappointed by the outcome of the meeting. Experienced escorts don't do that and understand that they are supposed to be focusing their attention on you from the moment of first eye contact. Escorts that are building their 'book of business' and hoping for repeat clients; take note of this and learn from the mistakes of others!!

[LaffingBear]

Two years ago, Id have written "no-way, bad sign"

 

Personally, I always put the money in an envelope and leave it in a prominent location so its visible to the hire guy.

 

And, Ill acknowledge that any time I remember the rentguy asking for or going for the cash upfront, the session was less satisfying. Including my last attempt, which was a disaster requiring me to evict the guy after 5 minutes, and working to get most of my cash back.

 

But Im gaining an appreciation for the escorts' perspective. Although I would never do it, I'll bet alot of guys dont pay, or demand discounts, after the fact. Citing unmet expectations.

 

Not exactly the same situations, but theres something about the changing communications norms that bleeds over into old-definitions of honor and commitment.

 

Tangential examples: I've been working on a major home de-clutter. Dozens and dozens of items to charity, hundreds of clothing items donated.... but selling or giving-away many items via craigs, or the LetGo or OfferUp apps.

 

Id say that 80% of the contacts who say they want an item, even for free, never follow through for purchase or pickup. I dont mean just casual interest... but after several messages and a written "I'll take it, when can I get it?"

 

Perhaps social scientists can or have examined it.... I think theres something about text, email, etc, or perhaps the info-inundation, that makes people feel less obligated to follow through.

 

I wrote earlier on another thread about an acquaintence who agreed to attend an event with me, requiring ticket purchase. He canceled day before event. Hes emailed that he'll reimburse me for tickets. I wonder if he really will.

[+ azdr0710]

"Money see, Monkey do......"

 

from a review of Kyle Gibson in 2013.....

• Experience: I arrived and he seemed disgusted. He didn't match his picture, though he was handsome. He put me in a room and turned on some porn and said "Money see, monkey do." I stood there wondering if I should leave. He came back in and said "Take your clothes off." I did and got on the massage table. He gave me a quick rubdown and offered me his dick to suck. It was like he didn't want me there at all. I paid him just to get out of there without a fight.
  

[+ Keith30309]

Some people are funny about this.

There is a guy who I was seeing twice a week for a couple of months this summer and we got to know each other fairly well and I was always generous with a tip before leaving. However, unless I preemptively dropped the envelope on the table before we got comfortable he always reminded me with "let's get the money part taken care of and out of the way so we can have fun". I never asked but I assume he had had some bad experiences... who knows.

[nsguy45]

That is too bad. He has a huge white cock in his jock. Tsk tsk for failing to deliver. Sick of those types. Let's run them to across the border and into Saskatchewan.

He was so annoying. He would periodically grab his erect cock and exclaim "Is that cock big enough for ya?".

[+ VictorPowers]

"Money see, Monkey do......"

Monkey cum all over you

[nsguy45]

That is too bad. He has a huge white cock in his jock. Tsk tsk for failing to deliver. Sick of those types. Let's run them to across the border and into Saskatchewan.

He appears to have deleted his RM profile.

[carnalvore]

I’ve never had a good experience with money upfront. One guy kept leaving the room for this reason or that reason, then he eventually came in and said “my wife found me and she’s coming here now and you have to leave.”

[+ Keith30309]

I’ve never had a good experience with money upfront. One guy kept leaving the room for this reason or that reason, then he eventually came in and said “my wife found me and she’s coming here now and you have to leave.”

Perfect!

 

“I think I’ll stay for a bit. I love making new friends.”

[+ nycman]

“my wife found me and she’s coming here now and you have to leave.”

“That’s cool. Then you need to give me my money back so she doesn’t

find that unexplained (and unearned) cash on you and get suspicious”

[JayCeeKy]

I've been asked twice for upfront payment and was ripped off both times. Never again.

 

I have only been asked once, and out the door he flew. Never again.

[carnalvore]

“That’s cool. Then you need to give me my money back so she doesn’t

find that unexplained (and unearned) cash on you and get suspicious”

 

I wish I had thought of that, that would have been a perfect response.

 

It’s hard for me to confront an escort, possibly I feel like they are doing me this big favor in seeing me and I have to accept what is given.

[+ Pensant]

Never paid upfront and never will.

 

One loser in Vegas even had the balls to call me out on my

refusal and tell me “that’s the way we do it in Vegas”.

 

Thankfully I stuck to my guns....I still get a little bit of

a chuckle every time I hear someone bitch about how

the same guy took their money and ran.

 

Listen to that little voice in your head....and think with

you big head...not the little one between your legs...

never pay upfront....and you’ll do fine.

 

Seriously, when that happens just turn on some porn and jack off instead. It’s a helluva lot cheaper and you’re guaranteed to have your (little) head cleared in under 15 minutes.

[+ VictorPowers]

Seriously, when that happens just turn on some porn and jack off instead. It’s a helluva lot cheaper and you’re guaranteed to have your (little) head cleared in under 15 minutes.

There's no hand like you're own hand!

[SFbtm4hardtops]

In each case that I was asked to pay upfront, the experience was horrible. The escort suddenly didn’t do the recreational activities we’d discussed, or—in one case—actually started to look at his phone in the middle of things.

[+ lookingforfunny]

In each case that I was asked to pay upfront, the experience was horrible. The escort suddenly didn’t do the recreational activities we’d discussed, or—in one case—actually started to look at his phone in the middle of things.

 

That is lame. If someone starts looking at their phone during playtime, either they are getting ejected or I am leaving. Money up front is not an option. In a few rare cases, I have said, let's split the risk. Half now and half when our session ends. If that is not good enough, they can hustle elsewhere. Up front payment ALWAYS ends poorly. ALWAYS!

[Capitoltower]

I have been scammed paying up front. He told me everything I wanted to hear..."oh it's okay you're late, I will give you a full hour..." then I pay him upfront and he starts saying "you idiot, of course there is traffic in NYC. I have to go. Not sorry. You only get 12 minutes..."

[Cliff]

I was asked last week, for the first time ever, to pay 50% in advance for a 2 hour meeting a week in advance. When I passed, the escort got angry with me in a text message. He said that he was running a business. He said he was a 5-star RM escort, and I, on the other hand, was a complete stranger. He said the $250 was a “simple gesture.” In my first message to him, I said I was a serious client not out to waste anyone’s time. He later threw that in my face, saying “what a fucking joke.” His nastiness about it made me glad that I wasn’t going to see him.

Edited April 2, 2018 by Cliff

[MassageDrew]

It is a major turn off for me. If he mentioned it if I minded paying him upfront as we set up the session then I might be more okay with it.

[marylander1940]

I was asked last week, for the first time ever, to pay 50% in advance for a 2 hour meeting a week in advance. When I passed, the escort got angry with me in a text message. He said that he was running a business. He said he was a 5-star RM escort, and I, on the other hand, was a complete stranger. He said the $250 was a “simple gesture.” In my first message to him, I said I was a serious client not out to waste anyone’s time. He later threw that in my face, saying “what a fucking joke.” His nastiness about it made me glad that I wasn’t going to see him.

 

Without a name/link we can't tell you if that's his everyday practice or you were the exception.

[Cliff]

Without a name/link we can't tell you if that's his everyday practice or you were the exception.

I am reluctant to provide his name publicly.

[+ DrownedBoy]

I leave an envelope lying in plain sight at the beginning of the session. I do this for anyone I meet with, whether they ask for it or not.

 

I recall three times, when doing this, where the escort opened the envelope before the session, counted the money, and pocketed it beforehand. One of them carelessly dropped the envelope on the floor afterwards, which should have been a tip off.

 

All three of those sessions ended early because the escort refused to do things they agreed to earlier.

 

I have had escorts insist on prepayment, at which point I tell them my aforementioned policy. None of them argued. Surprisingly, only one of those was a bad experience, and it was the one where the person grabbed the money and dropped the envelope, as I mentioned before. And it was by far the worst session I ever had.

 

I ought to write a monograph on this someday...but there seems little point in kicking someone out immediately after they have your money.

[marylander1940]

I am reluctant to provide his name publicly.

 

No problem

[MichBoyBlake]

Conversely the worst client I've ever had paid upfront without being asked and then ended it like 30 minutes early.