+ FrankR Posted Tuesday at 12:43 PM Posted Tuesday at 12:43 PM 38 minutes ago, d.anders said: We drove past a gas station in Manhattan yesterday. The price was $6.90 a gallon. My electric bill this month has never been higher, and I seriously don't use much electricity because my apartment is too bright. IMO, the world has gone insane. Tone down the drama dude. Save the “the world has gone insane” for actual lines at the pump...or a zombie apocolypse. Adjusting for inflation, prices today are lower than the peak in 2008. No one is enjoying it, but IMO you are being overly dramatic. + Vegas_Millennial, Lotus-eater and + Charlie 2 1
d.anders Posted Tuesday at 05:37 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:37 PM 4 hours ago, FrankR said: Tone down the drama dude. Really? I'm waiting for people to take to the streets, screaming their heads off. I wonder what the hundreds of homeless on 14th Street think about the "adjusting for inflation" argument? For the first time in my NYC life, I'm seeing young women with a baby in their lap on the street begging. And no they are not Black. You'd have to be blind, or willfully in denial not to see what is going on right now.
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted Tuesday at 07:12 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:12 PM 1 hour ago, d.anders said: You'd have to be blind, or willfully in denial not to see what is going on right now. Indeed, many are in denial to forget that gas prices are not as high as they were in 2008-2012. 2012 had the highest price per gallon since 1918, adjusted for inflation. The red line on the graph is national average gas prices adjusted to 2026 dollars: Source: https://inflationdata.com/articles/inflation-adjusted-prices/inflation-adjusted-gasoline-prices/ 1 hour ago, d.anders said: I'm waiting for people to take to the streets, screaming their heads off People did take to the streets during the gas price highs of early 2010s, demanding that key pipelines be built to help with energy security and reduce costs. 1 hour ago, d.anders said: I wonder what the hundreds of homeless on 14th Street think about the "adjusting for inflation" argument? If the beggers on 14th Street in NYC are paying Manhattan prices for gas to fill their cars, then they must be doing better than the working families in NYC who don't even own a car and rely on NYC's great public transit. Lotus-eater 1
marylander1940 Posted Tuesday at 07:26 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:26 PM (edited) 19 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said: If the beggers on 14th Street in NYC are paying Manhattan prices for gas to fill their cars, then they must be doing better than the working families in NYC who don't even own a car and rely on NYC's great public transit. Not owning a car in NYC is a smart choice, folks walk, take Subway, Uber, bus, etc. They stay active! Do you complain about paying more at the pump? I hope you're not cutting on hiring because using your car to go everywhere. Maybe it's time to walk. Edited Tuesday at 07:36 PM by marylander1940 + Charlie 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted Tuesday at 07:40 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:40 PM (edited) 18 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Not owning a car in NYC is a smart choice, folks walk, take Subway, Uber, bus, etc. They stay active! Agree! When I was in NYC last month, I didn't take an automobile anywhere. I used the bus and PATH trains to travel between EWR and Chelsea, and used the buses and subway to travel Manhattan and the Bronx. 18 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Do you complain about paying more at the pump or just pay more? I hope you're not cutting on hiring because using your car to go everywhere While I went cheap and used the $1.90 NJ Transit bus instead of the $14 AirTrain at EWR, I save my money for only traveling First/Business class on flights. I did complain about the hassle it has become to pay transit fares with cash these days (in one instance, I couldn't load my OMNY card with the $3 to ride the subway because the bill reader at that station was out of order, and there are no coin slots on the OMNY vending machines). I had to walk to another subway station in the rain to pay the fare. Here in Las Vegas, I fill my gas tank about 2 or 3 times per month (I refill when it gets half empty). I spend less on gas each month than I do on electricity to cool my 3,000+ sq-ft house (which costs $100-$200/month in the summer to keep cool), but I prioritize the convenience of the car in my suburban lifestyle. I only use transit in Las Vegas a few times per year. Edited Tuesday at 07:45 PM by Vegas_Millennial + Charlie 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted Tuesday at 07:52 PM Posted Tuesday at 07:52 PM 20 minutes ago, marylander1940 said: Maybe it's time to walk. The most walking I did was back in 2008-2013 when I was a Boy Scout leader. Ironically, even though that's when I walked the most (hiked a few mountains and canyons) it's also when I spent the most on gas. I remember the pain at the pump as I drove a van full of boy scouts across the West in the summers to explore and camp and hike. I remember how painful it was to stop in California and fill that van with gas during the summer of 2008. 2012 hurt too, but by then we learned to avoid California and drive to Colorado that year instead, so gas prices were still high but at least not California high. + Charlie 1
+ FrankR Posted Tuesday at 10:01 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:01 PM 4 hours ago, d.anders said: Really? I'm waiting for people to take to the streets, screaming their heads off. I wonder what the hundreds of homeless on 14th Street think about the "adjusting for inflation" argument? For the first time in my NYC life, I'm seeing young women with a baby in their lap on the street begging. And no they are not Black. You'd have to be blind, or willfully in denial not to see what is going on right now. I just can’t… And somehow I see exactly what is going on. marylander1940 and Lotus-eater 2
+ Gar1eth Posted Tuesday at 10:30 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:30 PM I just paid $3.069 for regular last night at a Murphy's in the Dallas Metroplex. That was with a 10 cent discount because of my Walmart+ membership. + Vegas_Millennial 1
MikeBiDude Posted Tuesday at 10:55 PM Posted Tuesday at 10:55 PM 24 minutes ago, Gar1eth said: I just paid $3.069 for regular last night at a Murphy's in the Dallas Metroplex. That was with a 10 cent discount because of my Walmart+ membership. I’m visiting Fort Worth, TX right now. My SoCal sensibilities are shocked at prices just over $3/gallon here. + Vegas_Millennial 1
jeezifonly Posted Tuesday at 11:36 PM Posted Tuesday at 11:36 PM in suburban LA, I filled up today for $60 - 5.20/gal, which is lowest I've paid in months. + Vegas_Millennial 1
+ Gar1eth Posted yesterday at 07:09 AM Posted yesterday at 07:09 AM 8 hours ago, Gar1eth said: I just paid $3.069 for regular last night at a Murphy's in the Dallas Metroplex. That was with a 10 cent discount because of my Walmart+ membership. 8 hours ago, MikeBiDude said: I’m visiting Fort Worth, TX right now. My SoCal sensibilities are shocked at prices just over $3/gallon here. I'm assuming you mean at the low price here compared to California. At the beginning of March the Walmart price (including my 10 cent discount) was $2.769. + Vegas_Millennial 1
+ Charlie Posted yesterday at 03:40 PM Posted yesterday at 03:40 PM 19 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said: Agree! When I was in NYC last month, I didn't take an automobile anywhere. I used the bus and PATH trains to travel between EWR and Chelsea, and used the buses and subway to travel Manhattan and the Bronx. While I went cheap and used the $1.90 NJ Transit bus instead of the $14 AirTrain at EWR, I save my money for only traveling First/Business class on flights. I did complain about the hassle it has become to pay transit fares with cash these days (in one instance, I couldn't load my OMNY card with the $3 to ride the subway because the bill reader at that station was out of order, and there are no coin slots on the OMNY vending machines). I had to walk to another subway station in the rain to pay the fare. Here in Las Vegas, I fill my gas tank about 2 or 3 times per month (I refill when it gets half empty). I spend less on gas each month than I do on electricity to cool my 3,000+ sq-ft house (which costs $100-$200/month in the summer to keep cool), but I prioritize the convenience of the car in my suburban lifestyle. I only use transit in Las Vegas a few times per year. When I lived in Manhattan, I worked in the suburbs, and driving was the only reasonable way for me to get to work. The worst thing about living in NYC with a car wasn't gas prices, but parking. + Italiano, + FrankR, marylander1940 and 2 others 1 3 1
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted yesterday at 04:29 PM Posted yesterday at 04:29 PM 48 minutes ago, Charlie said: When I lived in Manhattan, I worked in the suburbs, and driving was the only reasonable way for me to get to work. The worst thing about living in NYC with a car wasn't gas prices, but parking. Agree! 22 hours ago, d.anders said: I wonder what the hundreds of homeless on 14th Street think about the "adjusting for inflation" argument? For the first time in my NYC life, I'm seeing young women with a baby in their lap on the street begging Maybe the city should focus on diverting beggers and campers away from the sidewalks and repurpose some of that valuable roadway real estate for additional on-street parking to combat the high cost of living and working in that city. Never mind the gas prices... Focus on reducing parking prices.
Lotus-eater Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago NYC residential electricity rates are not historically high either: Inflation-Adjusted Price (In 2026 Dollars per kWh) 1996 $0.271 2001 $0.282 2006 $0.316 2011 $0.308 2016 $0.282 2021 $0.288 2026 (Current) $0.285 + Vegas_Millennial 1
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