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All the enthusiastic young men I dated were “offline or private” as you put it. They were more likely to describe themselves as ‘amateurs’.

The best muscle-bottom I had regularly never advertised at all. He was very discreet and took new clients only by introduction.
 

The second best, a blond muscleboy, was on Rentboy(as was) for 2 months only. It was enough time for him to garner a small but appreciative clientele, and I appreciated him fully and regularly for some years. 
 

Curiously these amateurs never charged top dollar. They were smart and wanted a stable, trustworthy clientele. 

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I found my current regular on this site two years ago.  He mentioned in his posts that he had previously worked as an escort and gave enough personal information to intrigue me.  I wrote him asking for more details and if he would be interested in an arrangement.  We exchanged some texts and put it together from there.  I couldn't be happier.  I realize my finding him was totally serendipitous and have no idea how to find "amateurs" (or retired professionals) in a methodical way.

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The best guys I've met by far have been from Seeking (https://seeking.com). The downside is that most of these guys aren't looking for a typical RM-style transaction so it can take months to find and filter out arrangements I'm not interested in. Many of them are looking for long term high-value arrangements with travel, they want to take things slow, or it's some sort of scam.

It's important to be very clear about your expectations but note that seeking doesn't allow discussion of explicit exchanges of money for sex so I talk about looking for something casual and then if there's interest I take the conversation to another platform like snapchat.

Alternatively, as has been discussed on the forum previously, some mid-tier onlyfans creators and instagram models are open to this sort of thing if you reach out to them privately on X/Twitter or Instagram. I've never had luck with that however.

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1 minute ago, Markmark said:

The best guys I've met by far have been from Seeking (https://seeking.com).

I also used to find good providers on Seeking.  If you weed out the delusional ones who think you're going to support them indefinitely and the scammers, a lot of the guys are looking for something without really knowing what that something is.  A guy who'll exchange money for occasional companionship (which may be at dinner, the theater or a club, and may involve sex) may not be what they dreamed of finding on that platform but it's a practical solution for a young man who could use some extra income.

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On 2/25/2025 at 8:07 AM, tomcat17 said:

Curious if anyone has exprience with offline or private, appointment only escorts that dont use the big sites. Influencers etc. Willing to pay for it. 

It's common to not be on the sites and still be active. 🙋🏻‍♂️

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On 2/25/2025 at 11:07 AM, tomcat17 said:

Curious if anyone has exprience with offline or private, appointment only escorts that dont use the big sites. Influencers etc. Willing to pay for it. 

Yes, I have.

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I’m seeing Seeking as the best alternative option to RM from this thread.

I know I could wade through posts to find the answer to this, but please spare me your frustrated comments if you feel compelled to make them. If no one answers, okay.

What exactly are the typical, reasonable expectations for a Seeking “relationship”—a term I use very broadly here? Is it an agreement that manifests itself as a longterm BFE? Something different? More? Less? My working assumption is it’s got to be different than “boyfriend for hire.” Because frankly, if I had a boyfriend, I would end up spending as much on dating over time as I do for my periodic hookups with escorts. Is there a cost-benefit reduction in compensation for the exchange of predictable security for the provider and ongoing access for the client?

All questions asked with sincere curiosity and no judgement. 

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The thing about Seeking is that there's absolutely zero consistency in expectations. Some guys want a serious long term relationship (I assume so you write them into the will and then they push you over the side of the yacht, if the TV show White Lotus is at all accurate). Other guys are interested in more of a casual BFE-type situation. And you can't really rely on the "I'm seeking" section; they just put what they think you want to hear e.g. romance and "mentorship".

Personally I avoid anyone who wants to take things "slow", that's usually a good indication they believe their presence+personality alone should be enough for you.

1 hour ago, Archangel said:

Is there a cost-benefit reduction in compensation

It depends but typically no, these are mostly guys looking for serious money. Some want a consistent allowance-type situation though and that might work out in your favor. Some of these guys have completely unrealistic expectations, others are in more fraught circumstances and will accept any offer.

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TBH I suggest you sign up for a month, message some guys, and get a feel for it. Be careful and watch out for scams, and don't directly discuss specific amounts of money or transactional sex on the site. I keep all my photos private, message them to get a vague/gut feeling for what sort of arrangement they're looking for, and then if it sounds like a match I'll share my photos and either my snapchat account, a google voice number, or my real number depending on how confident I am that they're legit. Then off-site I talk specifics + expectations.

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On 3/16/2025 at 11:43 PM, Archangel said:

 

 

On 3/16/2025 at 11:43 PM, Archangel said:

My working assumption is it’s got to be different than “boyfriend for hire.” Because frankly, if I had a boyfriend, I would end up spending as much on dating over time as I do for my periodic hookups with escorts. Is there a cost-benefit reduction in compensation for the exchange of predictable security for the provider and ongoing access for the client?

Not necessarily.  My successful finds on Seeking have been equivalent to a relationship with a regular escort.  We'd meet more or less weekly and spend a couple of hours together.  However, the guys I targeted were managing to get along with their salaries but were looking for some extra spending money.  I avoided guys who seemed desperate for money and those who thought I was going to marry or adopt them, but there were still plenty who were interested.  Did the guys I meet have similar arrangements with other older guys?  I didn't know and I didn't care. 

 @Markmark's advice is good.  Write them, tell them vaguely what you're looking for, see if they respond and take the conversation from there.

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