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Manhattan Supreme Court Judge Gregory Carro said that because his backpack was not sufficiently in Mangione's control when Altoona police were detaining him, "the evidence found during the search of the backpack at the McDonald's must be suppressed, including the [loaded ammunition] magazine, cellphone, passport, wallet and computer chip."

Free Luigi! 

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The key piece of evidence, the gun used to kill Brian Thompson, CAN be used as evidence.

Some evidence found in Luigi Mangione’s backpack at the time of his arrest will be excluded from his upcoming trial, a New York judge ruled Monday, though other key items – including a 3D-printed gun and writings expressing frustration with the healthcare industry – will be allowed.

Although some of Mangione’s belongings were tossed from the case, the mixed ruling is largely a victory for prosecutors, who will be able to show jurors the so-called “manifesto” and the firearm they say was used to kill UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/05/18/us/luigi-mangione-murder-trial-evidence

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It was a terrible decision by a NY court to apply NY law (which has a narrower scope to the inevitable discovery exception) to a search conducted by Pennsylvania police within Pennsylvania.

On the bright side, the federal court decided to allow all of the evidence to be admitted in the federal trial. If convicted (federal prosecutors rarely lose a case), he will rot in federal prison for a very long time.

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 The gun and notebook were the gold nuggets in that mine. The other stuff is far less-important to the case. So conviction looks likely despite the finding of partial, apparently - inadvertent procedural violations by the LEOs. That's probably one reason the judge threw them out, because if he didn't, it would come up in appeal later and easily wreck any guilty verdict. Appeals courts tend to be sticklers for procedural discipline, especially in capital murder cases.
And after Luigi is (hopefully) convicted on state charges, the federal trial is looming. He will never see the light of day again.

Luigi is reported to be fairly bright. He couldn't think of any other lawful way to make his point (whatever that may be)? What a waste. Spend life in prison for murdering a father, husband and son and reflect upon his very poor choices.

Too bad the death penalty was ruled out on the federal charges. If not, Bozo would've gladly volunteered to serve on the firing squad.

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10 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

 The gun and notebook were the gold nuggets in that mine. The other stuff is far less-important to the case. So conviction looks likely despite the finding of partial, apparently - inadvertent procedural violations by the LEOs. That's probably one reason the judge threw them out, because if he didn't, it would come up in appeal later and easily wreck any guilty verdict. Appeals courts tend to be sticklers for procedural discipline, especially in capital murder cases.
And after Luigi is (hopefully) convicted on state charges, the federal trial is looming. He will never see the light of day again.

Luigi is reported to be fairly bright. He couldn't think of any other lawful way to make his point (whatever that may be)? What a waste. Spend life in prison for murdering a father, husband and son and reflect upon his very poor choices.

Too bad the death penalty was ruled out on the federal charges. If not, Bozo would've gladly volunteered to serve on the firing squad.

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Don’t think bring an executioner is a job without its downsides. A report in the NYT yesterday found many suffer from mental distress following their role in executing someone. Similar in some ways to PTSD for police or soldiers who kill people in the line of duty. 

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1 hour ago, Luv2play said:

Don’t think bring an executioner is a job without its downsides. A report in the NYT yesterday found many suffer from mental distress following their role in executing someone. Similar in some ways to PTSD for police or soldiers who kill people in the line of duty. 

Well, you need to have a moral compass to feel guilt. 

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2 hours ago, José Soplanucas said:

Well, you need to have a moral compass to feel guilt. 

Wise words! 

Unfortunately, many on here (on both sides of the aisle) think a moral cause justifies violence. 

1 hour ago, BOZO T CLOWN said:

And we agree!
Sadly, the cold-blooded murderer Mangione nor his wild-eyed supporters have a moral compass.

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When it comes to having moral compass or not... whoever is free of inciting to violence, supporting a bully or asks others to be violent... shall cast the first stone. 

 

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On 5/19/2026 at 7:16 AM, BOZO T CLOWN said:

 The gun and notebook were the gold nuggets in that mine. The other stuff is far less-important to the case. So conviction looks likely despite the finding of partial, apparently - inadvertent procedural violations by the LEOs. That's probably one reason the judge threw them out, because if he didn't, it would come up in appeal later and easily wreck any guilty verdict. Appeals courts tend to be sticklers for procedural discipline, especially in capital murder cases.
And after Luigi is (hopefully) convicted on state charges, the federal trial is looming. He will never see the light of day again.

Luigi is reported to be fairly bright. He couldn't think of any other lawful way to make his point (whatever that may be)? What a waste. Spend life in prison for murdering a father, husband and son and reflect upon his very poor choices.

Too bad the death penalty was ruled out on the federal charges. If not, Bozo would've gladly volunteered to serve on the firing squad.

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Is up to the Judge, the jury, and legal scholars to decide what's admissible as evidence or not. 

May I remind you he comes from a rich family and he's also white and handsome. I still think he'll be convicted and I think he's also a terrorist because he killed for a "political cause". 

I know... you and me usually don't agree much 😂 

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1 hour ago, marylander1940 said:

Is up to the Jude, the jury, and legal scholars to decide what's admissible as evidence or not. 

 

Only judges decide what's admitted as evidence, which makes them the sole gatekeepers. Jurors decide how much to weigh the evidence that is allowed to be presented to them. Scholars may influence how judges interpret the law.

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7 hours ago, Lotus-eater said:

Only judges decide what's admitted as evidence, which makes them the sole gatekeepers. Jurors decide how much to weigh the evidence that is allowed to be presented to them. Scholars may influence how judges interpret the law.

and not us on here, right? That was my point, I hope you agree. Quote the 🤡 

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Luigi Mangione's attorneys revealed today that he will use a "psychiatric" defense at his upcoming murder trial. They will claim that Mangione was in the "throes of an emotional disturbance" when he gunned down Brian Thompson, United Healthcare CEO:

https://nypost.com/2026/06/17/us-news/luigi-mangione-will-argue-a-psychiatric-defense-in-state-trial-for-united-healthcare-ceo-murder/

Isn't anyone who stalks their victim, then kills them in cold blood "in the throes of an emotional disturbance"? If the jury buys this defense, then the jurors should be examined to determine whether they also suffer from emotional disturbances.

Sadly, Mangione, a hero to millions, may still escape accountability for his crime thanks to daddy's checkbook and his Instagram warriors - a bunch of spoiled brats who believe they are untouchable. 

So far, Mangione has raised over 1.5 million for his defense:
https://stats4lulu.github.io/

The 40,000+ idiots that donated to Luigi's defense must think it's okay to arbitrarily murder someone because they don't like his occupation. If Luigi was really the Robinhood that his supporters claim that he is, he'd give all of the money to his victim's widow, and now fatherless children.

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Bozo read the law; however, In New York, "extreme emotional disturbance" is usually applied to a situation in which a person is reflexively responding to a very traumatic event, without benefit of the passage of time in which to calm down. Mangione planned this out over several weeks or months. It was a carefully calculated, and premeditated act. And the fact that he used a suppressor and ran to avoid apprehension puts the Big Lie to any type of insanity defense.

Crazy insanity is one thing. Murderous, cowardly, evil domestic terrorism is something else altogether.

"Extreme emotional disturbance at the time of the occurrence" does not give him the right to take another's life and not fear the taking of your life or even life in prison.  We need to go back to the Old Testament, an eye for an eye, and let the family of the deceased blow Luigi's' brains all over his jail cell and serve it for dinner to the NYC pigeons.

It's too bad that the death penalty was taken off the table in his federal trial. Imagine how emotionally disturbed he'd be with 40,000 volts running through him!

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https://www.npr.org/2026/06/18/nx-s1-5863583/mangione-psychiatric-defense-update

Luigi Mangione's lawyers withdraw plans for psychiatric defense

New York — In a dramatic reversal, Luigi Mangione's legal team on Thursday backed away from a plan to use a psychiatric defense when his case goes to trial in state court in September. Mangione has pleaded not guilty to murdering health insurance CEO Brian Thompson in 2024 on a Manhattan street.

At a hearing only a day earlier before state Judge Gregory Carro, Mangione's attorneys confirmed that Mangione had been undergoing psychiatric evaluation. They signaled that his defense would be based at least in part on the argument that Mangione was experiencing "extreme emotional disturbance."

But in a one-line letter sent to Carro on Thursday, Mangione's team said that "at this time" they no longer intend to introduce psychiatric evidence during the trial. It's unclear what sparked the shift. Mangione's team didn't respond to NPR's request for comment.

Former Manhattan prosecutor and legal analyst Gary Galperin told NPR it was a "stunning reversal" for Mangione to withdraw from the psychiatric defense. "One can only speculate at this point as to the reasons," he said.

"What remains, of course, at this point is the question of what defense they will pursue at trial," he added.

This maneuver came after Carro ordered Mangione's attorneys to quickly share psychiatric information with prosecutors.

"They need to know what the malady is that this defendant suffers and how that triggered extreme emotional distress," he said, during Wednesday's hearing. "I'm not going to let you surprise people on the eve of trial. Get it done."

Assistant Manhattan District Attorney Joel Seidemann repeatedly complained that Mangione's team was "stonewalling" the prosecution by withholding medical information about his psychiatric state. "We have gotten nothing," Seidemann said.

Mangione's lead attorney Karen Friedman Agnifilo denied her team was delaying the court process or improperly withholding information.

But legal analyst Richard Schoenstein says by withdrawing the psychiatric defense, Mangione's team "is avoiding the court deadline to produce its psychiatric evidence."

According to Schoenstein, this latest move "does not entirely foreclose" Mangione's team from returning to some form of psychiatric argument during the trial, but he added that such a defense would now be far more difficult.

Mangione's case has drawn worldwide attention. Legal experts say the 28-eight-year old has drawn an unusual level of public support because of his criticism of the health insurance industry. Thompson, a father of two, was CEO of UnitedHealthcare at the time of his murder.

During Wednesday's hearing, Carro also indicated that a tranche of court documents would be made public that apparently relate to Mangione's potential psychiatric defense. On Thursday, Carro reversed course.

In a signed order, he said that because Mangione will no longer present psychiatric evidence, "the court's previous order sealing certain transcripts, emails, and documents, remains in effect."

Mangione's state trial is scheduled to begin in early September, with a federal trial expected to take place later.

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7 hours ago, Lotus-eater said:

https://www.npr.org/2026/06/18/nx-s1-5863583/mangione-psychiatric-defense-update

Luigi Mangione's lawyers withdraw plans for psychiatric defense

But in a one-line letter sent to Carro on Thursday, Mangione's team said that "at this time" they no longer intend to introduce psychiatric evidence during the trial. It's unclear what sparked the shift. 

The "alleged" killer of United Health CEO attempted to use mental health defense as a not guilty tactic - that's rich. It's time to pass laws that prevent indicted killers from setting up defense funds to tie up our court system for years at taxpayers' expense. The raised funds should go directly to the victim's family.

So let's review - first he pleaded not guilty, then said he did it, but was crazy, now says he's not crazy :rolleyes: !
What's to debate? He admitted that he did it. The only debate should be whether it's life without parole or death by a firing squad!

No need to waste more money on this backshooting coward!

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