United Healthcare CEO killed

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

6 minutes ago, mike carey said:

That group' referred to this cohort, not the subset of it that thought his actions were somewhat acceptable.

Therein lies the problem:  the pronoun "that".  It is being interpreted different ways.  As we all know, in today's world people choose a pronoun regardless of its definition.  One should ask each "group" if it identifies as "that" 😆 

Edited December 20, 2024 by Vegas_Millennial

[Lotus-eater]

The Feds have a 95% conviction rate. The death penalty will be used as leverage for a plea deal or he decides to go to trial and has a decent chance of going 6 feet under. Whether he rots in a prison cell or in the ground, he and his 15 minutes of infamy will be forgotten in a few years.

[56harrisond]

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[+ José Soplanucas]

[pubic_assistance]

11 hours ago, Lotus-eater said:

...his 15 minutes of infamy will be forgotten in a few years.

Hopefully not.

With 25% of the ENTIRETY of the wealth of the American middle class floating to the top 1% over the last four years....Corporate greed is a HUGE problem that could use a symbolic martyr to keep the public awareness alive.

[+ Pensant]

The one whose name I’ve already forgotten is that of the deceased plutocrat.

[+ sniper]

7 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Hopefully not.

With 25% of the ENTIRETY of the wealth of the American middle class floating to the top 1% over the last four years....Corporate greed is a HUGE problem that could use a symbolic martyr to keep the public awareness alive.

This. A lot of people who are relatively well off really have no idea how much things have gotten worse for the have nots. Life in this country is increasingly a lottery of birth. I think part of the problem is that there are a number of visible things that are vastly better and people incorrectly infer that therefore everything is similarly better.

To wit: when I was a kid a 25 inch color TV cost 500 bucks. Today you can get a 50 inch flat-screen for half that. Vast improvement. But housing relative to income is vastly more expensive. 

Average income doubling means nothing if all of the aggregate increase went to 10 families at the top.  And then if prices went up, the country as a whole is worse off, not better. 

I'm one of 6 kids raised by parents who fell almost out of the middle class when I was about 5. They cobbled together enough income from two shitty jobs each to keep the roof over our heads and we all managed to go to college. 5 of us graduated. I look at the cost of living in my town now and don't see how it would be possible for a couple to do what my parents did. And of the 6 kids, I and my younger sister are the only ones likely to be really financially stable in retirement. One will pretty much certainly be relying on me to keep her off the street, another is a cheapskate and resourceful so he'll manage, and another will probably scrape by. The other is already in a nursing home on Medicaid, and I'm terrified of what havoc is going to be wreaked on that system, because it would take me down too if her care suddenly stopped being covered.

 

[Marc in Calif]

21 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

Therein lies the problem:  the pronoun "that".  It is being interpreted different ways.  As we all know, in today's world people choose a pronoun regardless of its definition.  One should ask each "group" if it identifies as "that" 😆 

When discussing numbers, science, and statistics, writers use the word "that" to refer to what immediately preceded it. So it means the same as "latter."

I stand by my assertion. 😀

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

1 hour ago, sniper said:

...To wit: when I was a kid a 25 inch color TV cost 500 bucks. Today you can get a 50 inch flat-screen for half that. Vast improvement. But housing relative to income is vastly more expensive...

But who wants to buy a house today that was typical 50 years ago?  No garage, no indoor laundry room, no central air conditioning, poor insulation, no en-suite master bathroom, no marble counter tops, no stainless steel appliances.  Homebuyers today are spoiled.  First time homebuyers complain they can't find an affordable home, but insist their first home have all the amenities I listed above.  The problem is the mindset:  live with an attitude of gratitude.

None of this relates to the topic of the CEO being hunted down and murdered in the streets of NYC, so I'll try to being this back on topic.  I'm thankful that the medical technology exists that allow a young man with a broken spine to be ambulatory and travel across continents.  This was unthinkable years ago.  And the young man will probably get what he wanted: government-rationed healthcare for the rest of his life (in prison).  Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it! 😉 

Edited December 21, 2024 by Vegas_Millennial

[+ DrownedBoy]

54 minutes ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

And the young man will probably get what he wanted: government-rationed healthcare for the rest of his life (in prison).  Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it! 😉 

That's one of the most obscene things in our health care system.

One more obscenity - thanks to religiously-influenced laws in many states, doctors can't help patients pass away when they want. An executed murderer suffers a lot less pain than, say, my grandmother when she was dying of cancer.

[+ José Soplanucas]

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[+ sniper]

3 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

But who wants to buy a house today that was typical 50 years ago?  No garage, no indoor laundry room, no central air conditioning, poor insulation, no en-suite master bathroom, no marble counter tops, no stainless steel appliances.  Homebuyers today are spoiled.  First time homebuyers complain they can't find an affordable home, but insist their first home have all the amenities I listed above.  The problem is the mindset:  live with an attitude of gratitude.

None of this relates to the topic of the CEO being hunted down and murdered in the streets of NYC, so I'll try to being this back on topic.  I'm thankful that the medical technology exists that allow a young man with a broken spine to be ambulatory and travel across continents.  This was unthinkable years ago.  And the young man will probably get what he wanted: government-rationed healthcare for the rest of his life (in prison).  Be careful what you ask for, because you just might get it! 😉 

You're illustrating my point here. The finishing touches on these houses add little to cost of construction but add a lot to the sales price and cost of maintenance. Nobody builds starter homes any more not because there aren't people who will buy them, but because someone else will pay more for a slightly nicer looking house. But those people who would have bought a starter house are stuck renting(and rent control outside of NYC is rare). 

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[+ José Soplanucas]

[+ José Soplanucas]

I will not post them here because I may be breaking the rules, but SNL had several funny jokes about Saint Lulu. I found specially interesting the audience cheering reaction when Colin Jost introduced the topic.

[pubic_assistance]

The issue continues to bubble up on social media. The general public seems to have little remorse for Thompson. United Healthcare's response is incredibly tone deaf as it (predictability) doubles-down on Corporate gaslighting "truth-speak" and completely avoids making any promises of self reflection about being a heartless gatekeeper to people's lives.

 

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[marylander1940]

On 12/20/2024 at 4:29 PM, augustus said:

He is no longer yelling at the press during his transfers.  I think it is starting to sink in that he's never going to be free again. That must be a totally demoralizing and defeating realization; that your once privileged and wealthy life is immediately burnt toast.  The look on his face, his eyes tell the story.   I see fear and realization.

Not getting caught was the part that failed in his plan! 

[+ sniper]

2 minutes ago, marylander1940 said:

Not getting caught was the part that failed in his plan! 

You'd think he'd at least have colored his hair to change his appearance.

[pubic_assistance]

1 minute ago, marylander1940 said:

Not getting caught was the part that failed in his plan! 

He did seem to make a lot of plans around escaping arrest...but reflecting on the totality of this event,  had I planned an assassination, I am quite sure I would have given plenty of thought to the possibility of my being caught.

You simply cant plot such an extreme crime and just assume everything will go as planned. The kid wasn't stupid.

[+ sniper]

I mean, there's still some possibility this is a psychotic break on his part which might explain the apparent gaps in planning.  He's at the age where it often first manifests. Then again he's also at an age where a lot of men in particular think they are smarter than everyone else. He also could have not been trying hard to get away out of curiosity how long it would take.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

He doesn't seem psychotic. I think he wanted to be caught. He has a very specific message. I imagine the court proceedings will give him the chance to share that. 

[+ sniper]

The thing about mental illness is people can look perfectly rational on the outside for periods of time. Relatively few people are clearly lunatic 24/7. I have some relatives with bipolar and most of the time they seem perfectly fine. But when they aren't, they aren't. The other interesting thing is something about mania interferes with memory formation. So one of them has zero recollection of the incidents that cause people to distance themselves from her.  

[+ José Soplanucas]

Are we not considering any longer that Lulu may be innocent?

Edited December 23, 2024 by José Soplanucas

[+ sniper]

38 minutes ago, José Soplanucas said:

Are we not considering any longer that Lulu may be innocent?

Look, there's reasonable doubt, and there's shadow of a doubt and those two things are not the same. Is it POSSIBLE he didn't do it? In the sense that theoretically almost anything COULD happen, yes. Is it LIKELY? No. Him not being the perp requires a whole lot to have happened that we don't seem to have seen any signs of.