+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted May 21 Posted May 21 2 hours ago, ApexNomad said: Very kind of you Bozo. 👏 How or why did he let you take a picture of him? Kelvin agreed to let Bozo take a picture. However, he did not want to smile (can you blame him? Not much in his life to smile about). After a bit of coaxing from Bozo, he gave a forced smile. Bozo asked to take another pic, he said that he would rather I didn't. It's a shame because he has a beautiful smile that is clearly not evident in the photo. 1 hour ago, BSR said: If you see him again, maybe you could invite him to your hotel room to clean up/shower/nap(?) while making it clear that you will wait for him in the hotel bar/lobby. I wouldn’t feel comfortable extending such an invitation to just any random stranger, but he seems like a trustworthy sort. Plus his need for a long hot shower likely far exceeds whatever slight unease I’d feel. Actually, Bozo didn't even have to go that far. Bozo used his points to upgrade to a suite, so Bozo could have easily remained in the living room while Kelvin used the bedroom/bathroom to shower/bathe/clean. Although Kelvin appeared to be harmless (and cute), there always remains the risk of bringing a stranger back to my hotel room. BTC 🤡 pubic_assistance 1
TorontoDrew Posted May 21 Posted May 21 He would be eligible for help at Covenant House as well. I will see if I can find him and talk to him about his options. BSR, + BOZO T CLOWN, guru68 and 1 other 2 1 1
SirBillybob Posted May 21 Posted May 21 Regent Park Community Health Center walkable from this lad’s piece of sidewalk has drop-in shower services and access to laundry equipment for the unhoused. I doubt that he is completed stranded. BonVivant and + BOZO T CLOWN 1 1
Guest Posted May 22 Posted May 22 Kelvin's story broke my heart. I wish I were close enough to help him. I hope someone can keep us updated on his situation.
+ DrownedBoy Posted May 23 Posted May 23 On 3/26/2025 at 10:12 AM, LaffingBear said: Homeless escort seeking some assistance sounds like a script for a TV cop show with a bad outcome for the escort. Not dramatic enough. In LA, the cops know the spiel. Old gay guy calls cops because this young drug addicted homeless guy refuses to leave his house. He tells the cops that he was "only trying to help the kid out." The cops roll their eyes, mark it as a "domestic", and remove the homeless guy
topunderachiever Posted May 23 Posted May 23 Let's not kid ourselves. Why is such sympathy, kindness and generosity bestowed on this particular Toronto lad and not the elderly, unattractive, suffering woman sitting just down the block? pubic_assistance, + ApexNomad, + robear and 9 others 2 5 5
+ ApexNomad Posted May 24 Posted May 24 12 hours ago, topunderachiever said: Let's not kid ourselves. Why is such sympathy, kindness and generosity bestowed on this particular Toronto lad and not the elderly, unattractive, suffering woman sitting just down the block? Same reason everyone’s obsessed with Luigi Mangione. Our empathy isn’t always about the pain—it’s about the packaging. + nycman, + Just Sayin, + Alabastrine and 8 others 1 2 8
DMICS Posted May 25 Posted May 25 On 5/20/2025 at 7:56 PM, BOZO T CLOWN said: Wow @ShortCutie7, it's almost like you read Bozo's mind (not an easy task)! Although inviting Kelvin back to my hotel room to shower and sleep ran through Bozo's mind, it also might have given him the idea that Bozo's intentions were less than honorable. Bozo really wanted, and still wants, to help this kid out. Sort of like doing God's work. When we spoke, his head was always down, almost like he was beaten down emotionally. He could really use a helping hand. And thanks to everyone for reminding Bozo of the dangers of inviting a stranger back to his hotel room, even though he appeared to be sweet and harmless. Kelvin's "location" is in front of 1 Front Street West. It's on the SE corner of Front and Bay Sts... just past Union Station, next to the Tangerine bike rack. BTC 🤡 Wow what an encounter, story. I'm frequently in that area. Next time I'll have pop by with some cash or a gift card for him. Thanks for bringing this to light, Bozo. + BOZO T CLOWN 1
starman05 Posted May 25 Posted May 25 I'm blessed with work and jobs that keep a roof over my head and just enough spending $ so I can get a massage to relieve stress and get my heart broken every few years. I've learned that the adage about putting your own mask on if they pop down while you're flying and THEN put the mask on the children is the best way to go. I gotta take care of myself first. Once I have enough, I can try to help others. But movies like Pretty Woman and others have given us skewed versions on what those situations are like in real life. + azdr0710, BonVivant and + Vegas_Millennial 2 1
BSR Posted May 25 Posted May 25 On 5/24/2025 at 7:12 AM, ApexNomad said: Same reason everyone’s obsessed with Luigi Mangione. Our empathy isn’t always about the pain—it’s about the packaging. It’s not black or white either/or. Yes, Kelvin is young and cute, but we also know his story: dysfunctional family, lived with his grandmother, became homeless when she died. A young man with no indications of substance abuse or mental disorder (Bozo’s been around the block a time or two) and with his whole life ahead of him got dealt 2-7 unsuited (for you Texas Hold ‘Em players). That should draw empathy from anyone, looks aside. ShortCutie7, + BOZO T CLOWN, BonVivant and 1 other 1 2 1
+ ApexNomad Posted May 25 Posted May 25 3 hours ago, BSR said: It’s not black or white either/or. Yes, Kelvin is young and cute, but we also know his story: dysfunctional family, lived with his grandmother, became homeless when she died. A young man with no indications of substance abuse or mental disorder (Bozo’s been around the block a time or two) and with his whole life ahead of him got dealt 2-7 unsuited (for you Texas Hold ‘Em players). That should draw empathy from anyone, looks aside. I don’t disagree that Kelvin’s story warrants empathy—nor did I suggest otherwise. I also wasn’t dismissing Bozo’s intentions; in fact, I acknowledged and praised his kindness. Unfortunately, presentation often dictates perception. Bozo described Kelvin as “young and cute,” “clean-cut,” and different from others on the street—that’s what prompted the interaction. That’s also why we all know Kelvin’s story, and not the story of the many other homeless people down the block. And while we’re being honest, I’ve never understood the impulse to photograph someone at their lowest—especially when they’re young, vulnerable, and holding a sign. There’s a selective lens we apply to suffering.
+ nycman Posted May 25 Posted May 25 7 minutes ago, ApexNomad said: There’s a selective lens we apply to suffering. There’s a "selective lens" we apply to everything. And because of that, beautiful people have an advantage in everything. Even when they’re homeless. BonVivant, + DrownedBoy, + ApexNomad and 2 others 2 3
+ Vegas_Millennial Posted May 25 Posted May 25 31 minutes ago, ApexNomad said: Bozo described Kelvin as “young and cute,” “clean-cut,” and different from others on the street—that’s what prompted the interaction. I interpret this to mean Kevin has lots of potential, and life on the streets hasn't made him rough and dirty yet. It should be easy for him to clean up and get his act together now assuming he's not an addict and is willing to work and learn. Never mind his past stories about what led him to the street, he is a young clean cut guy with men offering to help him get on his feet. Let's hope self pity doesn't keep him from saying no to help forever, before he's no longer clean cut and the offers to help stop coming. + BOZO T CLOWN 1
SirBillybob Posted May 25 Posted May 25 (edited) You guys. Leave this lad tf alone. By that I mean, sure, accommodate his unambiguous and circumscribed ask if you will, that consists of his modest little paper cash register for donations that you might supply while being circumspect about his context. He has wordsmithed his signage narrative just enough to legitimize requesting $ but falls short of asking to be rescued. He is not asking to be the face of any societal problem. 1 in 100 Canadian men are diagnosed with schizophrenia and the majority can “present” well. A higher proportion than 100% of general population have some form of illness within the realm of psychosis. If a cluster of men, however numbered, were to descend on him and convey knowledge of his background and he is mentally vulnerable his response may be no less predisposed to a triggered effect of paranoia than it might be coloured with appreciation of the crowdsourcing implicit in the well-intentioned story entered here. As has been suggested there is no lack of professional resources including street outreach services in the downtown Toronto district. I fail to understand assumptions you might have about the degree to which he is genuinely disenfranchised relative to the collective unhoused genpop, or what it is some of you think you can offer to make his connectivity to resources stick if indeed his plight is blockage to assistance access that you imagine you can transcend on his behalf. Good to be alert to the reality of those less fortunate. Perhaps a donation to Covenant House would satisfy the call to altruism. Edited May 25 by SirBillybob + nycman, + KinkyNEguy, TorontoDrew and 3 others 1 5
d.anders Posted May 25 Posted May 25 There are so many non-beautiful people who idolize beauty, thinking that if you possess beauty alone, there can't be anything wrong because beauty should be able to propel you anywhere. Wiser people know how fragile and shallow beauty can be. Good-looking people know, too. + Just Sayin and pubic_assistance 1 1
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted May 25 Posted May 25 On 5/23/2025 at 11:41 AM, topunderachiever said: Let's not kid ourselves. Why is such sympathy, kindness and generosity bestowed on this particular Toronto lad and not the elderly, unattractive, suffering woman sitting just down the block? Let's not kid ourselves: This is a classic strawman argument. While you may be right, that's not what the subject was about. You're also assuming this board wouldn't have the same compassion for ANYONE who's homeless... And many of us would. MikeBiDude, pubic_assistance, Smokey and 3 others 1 1 4
BigK Posted May 26 Posted May 26 On 3/30/2025 at 5:11 AM, Pensant said: Thanks for sharing that. I had to see if Dylan NY had any reviews on Wayback and I found them! I saw him multiple times in LA and NYC. He was the hottest and most beautiful provider I ever met. We used to talk for hours in between. He’s doing well in NYC today. Glorious memories! Male Escort Dylan #3 - New York WEB.ARCHIVE.ORG What is Wayback? Is it some sort of review site? Please provide the URL. Thanks.
mike carey Posted May 26 Posted May 26 3 minutes ago, BigK said: What is Wayback? Is it some sort of review site? Please provide the URL. Thanks. It's a web archive, which in the instance above had an archived copy of the escort's web site. It's at Wayback Machine WEB.ARCHIVE.ORG There is a Wikipedia article on it as well.
SirBillybob Posted May 26 Posted May 26 (edited) 5 hours ago, BigK said: What is Wayback? I thought it was code for ankles in the assumed position in missionary work. Edited May 26 by SirBillybob + Pensant, MikeBiDude and + nycman 3
TorontoDrew Posted May 26 Posted May 26 On 5/25/2025 at 10:07 AM, SirBillybob said: Good to be alert to the reality of those less fortunate. Perhaps a donation to Covenant House would satisfy the call to altruism. I've been a monthly donor to Covenant house for over 30 years. Anybody being homeless is a tragedy. It just seems worse for youth as many were thrown away by their families. Maybe hire one less a year and donate to a food bank or a charity like Covenant House. BSR, Medin, + BOZO T CLOWN and 3 others 1 2 3
BigK Posted May 28 Posted May 28 On 5/25/2025 at 9:04 PM, mike carey said: It's a web archive, which in the instance above had an archived copy of the escort's web site. It's at Wayback Machine WEB.ARCHIVE.ORG There is a Wikipedia article on it as well. Thanks
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