Luv2play Posted September 17, 2024 Posted September 17, 2024 The rapper music mogul Sean Combs is facing a slew of charges in NY on sex trafficking and related offences. It follows a raid on his homes in LA and Miami in March and a recently settled law suit with his ex girlfriend who made similar allegations. A video of him beating up this gf in a hotel hallway was released a few months ago. Amongst the allegations is one that he drugged unwitting female victims who were then subjected to days long orgies with paid male prostitutes. He would personally witness these so-called Freak Offs and video tape them for his personal amusement. If convicted he faces a similar fate as R.Kelly who got 30 years in 2022 for sex trafficking minors amongst other charges. He was denied bail although offering $50 million. He is joining a growing list of male predators amongst the rich and famous. + MysticMenace and marylander1940 1 1
+ MysticMenace Posted September 18, 2024 Posted September 18, 2024 Who do you think will be indicted next? Jay-Z? EZEtoGRU 1
marylander1940 Posted September 18, 2024 Posted September 18, 2024 (edited) 1,000 bottles of baby oil and lubricant found in his home.. hard to prove he wasn't pimping women! Edited September 18, 2024 by marylander1940 + Just Chuck and + augustus 2
viewing ownly Posted September 18, 2024 Posted September 18, 2024 It becomes real easy to say this now, but looking back at his extensive discography, he at no time had a song I liked, ever. Many of his huge hits were merely blatant samplings of previous original music hits. It's crazy that his re-wording of "Every Breath You Take" was far huger than the original by The Police. (Yes, I'm aware of the circumstances, but that still is a travesty that the original is less popular today). + Pensant 1
Luv2play Posted September 18, 2024 Author Posted September 18, 2024 3 hours ago, marylander1940 said: 1,000 bottles of baby oil and lubricant found in his home.. hard to prove he wasn't pimping women! I just read the account in the NYT and not the 14 page indictment. Not sure it includes pimping in the sense of hiring out women for the purposes of making money off them. Rather he induced or coerced young unsuspecting women to perform sex acts with hired male prostitutes for his entertainment. His money enabled him to finance this enterprise if you want to call it that. Whether he used his fame as well to attract the women in the first place remains to be seen. I wonder whether the male prostitutes will be charged as accomplices as they must have been aware the women were drugged. Presumably they can be identified in the videos he took. marylander1940 1
Lotus-eater Posted September 18, 2024 Posted September 18, 2024 Federal prosecutors have a 90%+ conviction rate, but Combs is a celebrity. Case is listed as: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA V. SEAN COMBS, a/k/a "Puff Daddy," a/k/a "P. Diddy," a/k/a "Diddy," a/k/a "PD," a/k/a "Love," Defendant. What will his convict name be? marylander1940 1
Luv2play Posted September 18, 2024 Author Posted September 18, 2024 5 hours ago, Lotus-eater said: Federal prosecutors have a 90%+ conviction rate, but Combs is a celebrity. Case is listed as: UNITED STATES OF AMERICA V. SEAN COMBS, a/k/a "Puff Daddy," a/k/a "P. Diddy," a/k/a "Diddy," a/k/a "PD," a/k/a "Love," Defendant. What will his convict name be? Love Dick
pubic_assistance Posted September 18, 2024 Posted September 18, 2024 Why 1000 bottles of lube if he had a fetish for YOUNG girls ? Middle aged women sometimes need a little help but young girls are always ready to go unless he was into a LOT of anal action. + augustus and marylander1940 1 1
dutchal Posted September 18, 2024 Posted September 18, 2024 They've sent him to the Fed Correctional Center in Brooklyn. Wonder if they'll make him cellmates with Austin Wolf? Luv2play, marylander1940 and pubic_assistance 2 1
+ sync Posted September 18, 2024 Posted September 18, 2024 Were I on the bench, the video of him savagely beating and kicking that woman would have been enough for me to take him off the streets for good. Danny-Darko, + Pensant and pubic_assistance 1 1 1
marylander1940 Posted September 18, 2024 Posted September 18, 2024 23 minutes ago, sync said: Were I on the bench, the video of him savagely beating and kicking that woman would have been enough for me to take him off the streets for good. and somehow he got away with it! I'm sure it wasn't the first nor the last time. Surveillance video shows Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs physically assaulting former girlfriend in 2016 | CNN WWW.CNN.COM A 2016 surveillance video obtained by CNN shows Sean “Diddy” Combs violently grab, shove, drag and kick his then-girlfriend Cassie Ventura during an altercation in a... pubic_assistance, + sync, Danny-Darko and 1 other 2 1 1
ICTJOCK Posted September 18, 2024 Posted September 18, 2024 Sounds horrible indeed. I at first wondered about the "male prostitute" part, but definitely not gay. Will be interesting to follow the case. marylander1940 1
Luv2play Posted September 18, 2024 Author Posted September 18, 2024 1 hour ago, ICTJOCK said: Sounds horrible indeed. I at first wondered about the "male prostitute" part, but definitely not gay. Will be interesting to follow the case. I have always assumed that the straight male prostitute that caters to women is in a much smaller cohort than male prostitutes that are either bi or gay and cater to men and or women. The American gigolo as portrayed by Richard Gere I assumed was rare because so few women are either inclined as men are to purchase sex or have the means. That of course is changing as many more women have achieved parity in incomes in the professional classes. Still the biological differences remain. Older women lose interest in sex much more than men do. Still it will be interesting to see if the males involved get swept up in the legal proceedings. Danny-Darko and ICTJOCK 1 1
BuffaloKyle Posted September 19, 2024 Posted September 19, 2024 3 hours ago, Luv2play said: I have always assumed that the straight male prostitute that caters to women is in a much smaller cohort than male prostitutes that are either bi or gay and cater to men and or women. The American gigolo as portrayed by Richard Gere I assumed was rare because so few women are either inclined as men are to purchase sex or have the means. That of course is changing as many more women have achieved parity in incomes in the professional classes. Still the biological differences remain. Older women lose interest in sex much more than men do. Still it will be interesting to see if the males involved get swept up in the legal proceedings. There was the Showtime series "Gigolos" which showcased straight male escorts but it was all staged: Gigolos - Wikipedia EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Danny-Darko and marylander1940 1 1
+ glutes Posted September 19, 2024 Posted September 19, 2024 The Beebs is now in hiding? + Pensant, pubic_assistance and marylander1940 3
soloyo215 Posted September 19, 2024 Posted September 19, 2024 On 9/18/2024 at 2:57 AM, Lotus-eater said: What will his convict name be? Love me Daddy Lotus-eater and marylander1940 2
hungry4darkmeat Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 He’s been doing it for a lot longer than anyone has said. I remember him and Mase on South Beach in the 90s and everyone knew that when the hookers left the boys ordered more champagne and condoms and those weren’t for the next day lol. I’m sure Russell groomed him and before that Bam probably did too. The homophobia in the black community has made it extremely difficult for celebrities of color to fully express their sexuality and that leads to situations like this. The repression of one’s identity has lasting effects- and unprocessed childhood trauma or particularly sexual abuse has been proven to come back later in life to haunt the survivors and often turns them into perpetrators in a twisted attempt to reclaim their personal power and have a sense of control over their lives and the lives of those around them pubic_assistance, thomas and + sync 1 2
MaybeMaybeNot Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 Another tragic waste of a life. He could have used all that energy to do remarkable things in this world, to help people better themselves, all while he had a healthy, kinky, consenual sex life on the side. Very, very sad. In my youth, I interviewed for a job working for him. I was heartbroken when I didn't get it. Well, that was a land mine avoided! BaronArtz, hungry4darkmeat, pubic_assistance and 1 other 2 1 1
pubic_assistance Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 (edited) 12 hours ago, hungry4darkmeat said: The homophobia in the black community has made it extremely difficult for celebrities of color to fully express their sexuality That's part of my reading, in the description of his "freak-off" parties. He apparently liked to watch handsome men rape defenseless drugged women, while he jerked off. I am wondering if the mix of male beauty and violence toward women, wasn't a product of the mixed up feelings.of a deeply closeted man. Edited September 20, 2024 by pubic_assistance spelling marylander1940, + Pensant, thomas and 3 others 4 2
+ glutes Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said: I am wondering if the mix of male beauty and violence toward women, wasn't a product of the mixed up feelings.of a deeply closeted man. Maybe we should ask Jerry Falwell's pool boy? + José Soplanucas, + Travis69, thomas and 1 other 3 1
CuriousByNature Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 (edited) 13 hours ago, hungry4darkmeat said: He’s been doing it for a lot longer than anyone has said. I remember him and Mase on South Beach in the 90s and everyone knew that when the hookers left the boys ordered more champagne and condoms and those weren’t for the next day lol. I’m sure Russell groomed him and before that Bam probably did too. The homophobia in the black community has made it extremely difficult for celebrities of color to fully express their sexuality and that leads to situations like this. The repression of one’s identity has lasting effects- and unprocessed childhood trauma or particularly sexual abuse has been proven to come back later in life to haunt the survivors and often turns them into perpetrators in a twisted attempt to reclaim their personal power and have a sense of control over their lives and the lives of those around them I don't believe the unprocessed trauma 'often' turns someone into a perpetrator. It is way more complex than that. And many abuse survivors would never even think of harming someone else - particularly since they know what it is like to be violated and then have to live with the effects. Edited September 20, 2024 by CuriousByNature
d.anders Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 On 9/18/2024 at 10:04 AM, sync said: the video of him savagely beating and kicking that woman would have been enough for me to take him off the streets for good. I saw the video when it was released, and it made me sick to my stomach. I'm glad action has been taken. I understand rap music is popular, but I never enjoyed it. I also had a difficult time looking at this guy, because I thought he was ugly. There was just something about that face, those eyes, that I didn't like. When I finally saw that video, my gut said yes, he's a sick creep. The boys should have fun with him in jail. Career over.
pubic_assistance Posted September 20, 2024 Posted September 20, 2024 1 hour ago, CuriousByNature said: I don't believe the unprocessed trauma 'often' turns someone into a perpetrator. It is way more complex than that. And many abuse survivors would never even think of harming someone else - particularly since they know what it is like to be violated and then have to live with the effects. Sorry. I don't agree with that statement. At all ! It's VERY common for victims of abuse to continue the pattern of abuse. Maybe not in the identical manner in which they were abused, but certainly it is known to create unhealthy side effects in people if left untreated. hungry4darkmeat 1
hungry4darkmeat Posted September 21, 2024 Posted September 21, 2024 16 hours ago, pubic_assistance said: That's part of my reading, in the description of his "freak-off" parties. He apparently liked to watch handsome men rape defenseless drugged women, while he jerked off. I am wondering if the mix of male beauty and violence toward women, wasn't a product of the mixed up feelings.of a deeply closeted man. It’s so sad that we just aren’t there yet. I can tell you we’ve come a long fuckin way but many of the privileges bestowed upon the white alphabet community are not available to the more melanin enriched or those without access to the resources, education or opportunities that most of us take for granted. From a sociological perspective the context of the nebulous and complex African American generational experience .and the impact of the generational trauma that has oppressed queer people of color within their own communities while their white equivalents got celebrated for their bravery and then tricked into believing they were supposed to be the same as the cis het norm. pubic_assistance and Lotus-eater 2
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