YoungTallAthelete in NYC. Brand new.

[Archangel]

11 minutes ago, Walt said:

Thinking of it is as an unwritten rule that you may not even understand or agree with is indeed a good way to think about it.

Economically speaking, that makes for an unbalanced market. How can we all play fairly if we aren’t all playing by the same rules? Broadly and specifically speaking?

It seems safe to me to say that if someone, Provider or Client, opens with “hey” and nothing more, it’s likely not a professional exchange coming thereafter. But having an unspoken “rule” about blocking potential Clients over asking for a rate is unfair to the Client. Perhaps money isn’t an issue per se, but the Client wants to know simply to know? Seems like a terrible business strategy and a good way to not get some potentially fine Clients who would be just fine to afford a Provider with high financial expectations. Just my opinion.

[Walt]

31 minutes ago, Archangel said:

Economically speaking, that makes for an unbalanced market. How can we all play fairly if we aren’t all playing by the same rules? Broadly and specifically speaking?

It seems safe to me to say that if someone, Provider or Client, opens with “hey” and nothing more, it’s likely not a professional exchange coming thereafter. But having an unspoken “rule” about blocking potential Clients over asking for a rate is unfair to the Client. Perhaps money isn’t an issue per se, but the Client wants to know simply to know? Seems like a terrible business strategy and a good way to not get some potentially fine Clients who would be just fine to afford a Provider with high financial expectations. Just my opinion.

But it is very easy to play by the same rules!  VERY easy. When a provider replies, great -- When a provider doesn't reply or blocks you, move on.  Done, Now everyone is playing by the exact same rules.

Another, but I think less potentially successful direction would indeed to focus on what is "unfair." There is so much that is unfair in this hobby. It would probably need to start with regulating this industry rather than outlawing it and codifying rules and behaviors and demanding financial transparency.  To make it less "unfair" there could be financial subsidies for clients who couldn't afford the highest fees, transportation provided for clients who saw what they want in another geographic market,  Diversity/Equity/Inclusion rules,  advertising standards, standardized application forms for sessions, etc. -- all aimed to remove unfair practices.

 

 

 

[Archangel]

Imagine governments subsidizing escorting! 😂 That would be great—and unrealistic! 😂 Which party wants to do do that? They might get a sizable bipartisan vote! 😂 

Decriminalizing and regulating the escort market is a good idea fiscally though. Like marijauna.

[+ Coolwave35]

7 hours ago, Archangel said:

Perhaps money isn’t an issue per se, but the Client wants to know simply to know?

I don’t think that this statement can be true. In my personal experience, (not escorting) when a client starts with how much will it be, it’s because they have a problem affording it, OR they still use money as a resource things should be measured by.  When you get to a place where financial freedom allows time to become the resource by which to measure everything, you stop asking “how much” in my experience.  There are escorts that only want to target those people.  I think that may be what he’s doing, and God bless him, that’s the level of service he offers so more power to him. Only one provider I’ve come across in 20 years has been better. 

Every time I’ve been at Walmart or Target and the person in front of me asks the cashier to scan something for a price, 80% of the time they don’t buy it.  I’ve been around lots of folks with money and lots of folks without. No rich person has ever asked the waitress how much the dinner special was simply because they wanted to know. 

When I’m hiring, my last sentence after agreeing to terms is always “Thanks for making that so easy! I want to be prepared for our meeting, how much cash should I have with me?”  And then they tell me. 

When I was spending time with this provider, we’d go shopping to Best Buy. He didn’t ask me for a budget, he just picked what he wanted. When we went shopping in Paris, we went into the designer stores and picked what he looked good in. The only thing he wanted that I didn’t say yes to was a gold Louis Vuitton bangle bracelet and it wasn’t the price that had me say no.

When we picked out the French provider to join us one evening, we didn’t sort by lowest priced. We picked the guy we were both into and got him there quickly. 

This isn’t a dig at anyone for being price conscious. I certainly was until I wasn’t. It’s merely an observation of what I see in my experience of a minority of clients and how they shop. 

There was an influencer I was REALLY into visually. I liked his content. I wanted to meet him. I DM’d him and said I want to meet you this weekend and I’ll Venmo a $3k deposit. He said “what if I don’t show”. I said then you’ll lose a follower.  That’s your risk. But if you do show, you’ll gain much more than that. He showed. 

These guys know how to get what they’re looking for, and they follow their intuition. I’ve gotten 2 PMs already from people that went for the $1k and weren’t disappointed. They also got more than an hour. 
 

“does anyone actually like Anderson Cooper?” 

Edited May 3 by Coolwave35

[builder boy]

What I am not here to do is to debate it.   It makes ZERO difference to me why her you believe it or not.   And asking the cost of a weekend or overnight sheds no light on whether a person can or can not afford the time, it’s simply a relative question.    I found most educated people would be asking the same questions to any professional who runs their Business like a Business. 
And while there are some here who have an “Abundance of Money, I also know the ones that do have an “Abundance of Money” ni feel the need to discuss it or their worth.   
 

[pubic_assistance]

6 hours ago, Archangel said:

Which party wants to do do that?

Libertarian Party

Can't say more without making a political discussion. Which is against the rules.

But I can say that the idea has been floated for years that consumption of drugs and prostitution is none of the governments business. It's a transaction between customer and provider that harms no one. Instead they increased the penalty for prostitution with human trafficking laws, that assume every sex worker is a victim of slavery.

 

[+ KensingtonHomo]

1 hour ago, Coolwave35 said:

In my personal experience, (not escorting) when a client starts with how much will it be, it’s because they have a problem affording it, OR they still use money as a resource things should be measured by.  When you get to a place where financial freedom allows time to become the resource by which to measure everything, you stop asking “how much” in my experience.  

Even if I had unlimited funds, I would not give a 22-year-old thousands of dollars. Not to yuck anyone's yum, but I don't find this kid remotely desirable. 

If he can get that sum, good for him, but I know plenty of wealthy people who would look askance at the idea that just because they have money, they should throw it at anyone with abs. 

[robberbaron4u]

50 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Libertarian Party

Can't say more without making a political discussion. Which is against the rules.

But I can say that the idea has been floated for years that consumption of drugs and prostitution is none of the governments business. It's a transaction between customer and provider that harms no one. Instead they increased the penalty for prostitution with human trafficking laws, that assume every sex worker is a victim of slavery.

 

!!!OMG!!? A bangle bracelet from a luggage store?!? Little wonder the line on dialogue between client and  provider has gone dead. EVERYONE  who is ANYONE knows that Mellerio dits Meller on the Rue de la Paix is the ONLY place to shop for bracelets. The vintage pieces in the "back room", for preferred patrons, are !!!FAB-U-LUXE!!! By appointment.

[Skip]

I have paid thousands and I have paid hundreds. The thousands have been pretty much outstanding. The hundreds, not so much. Can't say I have an abundance, but thousand is not a scary number and I know how gortunate I am. Just because you chose not to spend for whatever reason does not make the product a rip off or the provider a jerk, just not your choice for one reason or the other. And a positive word from Cool Wave,  very convincing. I have unknowingly followed in his footsteps a few times and never been dissapointed. 

[Archangel]

No one’s time, in my opinion, is worth an “unlimited price.” There are some who may not care, but there are those who do.

A thin person who works out a lot might care about their diet. Or they might not. They might choose to worry about how many calories is in something or not. That doesn’t mean the calories don’t affect them, whether they care or not. And they’re going to still eat. A fat person might care or not care about their diet, and work out etc. but for various reasons calories behave differently for them. The same with money. Money behaves differently for different people. Some of it has to do with how someone comes into money. Some of it has to do with personality. I know people who have nothing to worry about whatsoever with money and are extremely generous but are also extremely frugal in most aspects of their lives because that’s their personality. Everything is refracted through the lens of money. I know some poor people who think they’re Midas and probably should ask about money who don’t seem to understand that for them, when it’s gone, it’s gone til the next paycheck. Behavior around money isn’t monolithic. It’s myopic to think asking about money means you can’t afford it. It might be an insight into a personality more than their ability to spend. 

Edited May 3 by Archangel

[robberbaron4u]

12 minutes ago, Archangel said:

No one’s time, in my opinion, is worth an “unlimited price.” There are some who may not care, but there are those who do.

A thin person who works out a lot might care about their diet. Or they might not. They might choose to worry about how many calories is in something or not. That doesn’t mean the calories don’t affect them, whether they care or not. And they’re going to still eat. A fat person might care or not care about their diet, and work out etc. but for various reasons calories behave differently for them. The same with money. Money behaves differently for different people. Some of it has to do with how someone comes into money. Some of it has to do with personality. I know people who have nothing to worry about whatsoever with money and are extremely generous but are also extremely frugal in most aspects of their lives because that’s their personality. Everything is refracted through the lens of money. I know some poor people who think they’re Midas and probably should ask about money who don’t seem to understand that for them, when it’s gone, it’s gone til the next paycheck. Behavior around money isn’t monolithic. It’s myopic to think asking about money means you can’t afford it. It might be an insight into a personality more than their ability to spend. 

"Can't you make it a little cheaper, Mister."

[Chancealot]

Interesting that there’s SO MUCH discussion here.  My two cents 

Paying more doesn’t mean it’s better 

a provider maximizing his price is his right 

for me I could I would I have done $1000 - 1x - it was amazing 

very few that I would do that for 

I’d prefer a flight somewhere nice lol 

[Archangel]

Luxury goods are often overpriced precisely because they’re luxury goods, not because they’re “good.” It’s about status, not quality.

My grandmother subscribed to the notion the most expensive of something was the best. There may have been a time when that was true, or more often true, but today that’s not always the case. Some people actually quite enjoy the hunt for quality for the cheapest they can find it. And that’s true for some very wealthy people. Again, I come back to the personality point. Some of it’s a mindset thing, not a matter of true ability, capacity, or status.

[robberbaron4u]

2 hours ago, Chancealot said:

Interesting that there’s SO MUCH discussion here.  My two cents 

Paying more doesn’t mean it’s better 

a provider maximizing his price is his right 

for me I could I would I have done $1000 - 1x - it was amazing 

very few that I would do that for 

I’d prefer a flight somewhere nice lol 

!!!HAVANA!!!

[robberbaron4u]

15 hours ago, goosh69 said:

What’s with this ancient pic of this guy? This is circa 20 years ago. 

 2024, "Lookin' good" and, just off his flight,  booked out for The Season. 

[BonVivant]

Can we get back to the provider? Anyone with experience post recent RM ad?

[+ goosh69]

2 hours ago, robberbaron4u said:

 2024, "Lookin' good" and, just off his flight,  booked out for The Season. 

Yes I know what he looks like now. I was one of his first Johns in the late 90s, then again a few times over the yea.

[robberbaron4u]

33 minutes ago, goosh69 said:

Yes I know what he looks like now. I was one of his first Johns in the late 90s, then again a few times over the yea.

Please, "client" not "John". Even if you " pay for it", afford yourself some small dignity in the hire.

[guru68]

2 hours ago, robberbaron4u said:

 2024, "Lookin' good" and, just off his flight,  booked out for The Season. 

Looks like he's doing business from home.

[Walt]

10 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Not to yuck anyone's yum, but I don't find this kid remotely desirable. 

Not to say that some people don't understand the meaning of words, but if you you say you're not doing something -- and then you do it, you have actually done what you've said you weren't going to do. It's true!

[+ KensingtonHomo]

3 hours ago, Walt said:

Not to say that some people don't understand the meaning of words, but if you you say you're not doing something -- and then you do it, you have actually done what you've said you weren't going to do. It's true!

Unlike many others who I will not tag or name, I rarely comment on providers’ appearance or desirability. And what I said was he’s not for me. I hope you find the time to call out all the posts saying providers are fat, ugly, old, etc. 🙄

[Walt]

3 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

Unlike many others who I will not tag or name, I rarely comment on providers’ appearance or desirability. And what I said was he’s not for me. I hope you find the time to call out all the posts saying providers are fat, ugly, old, etc. 🙄

You don't need to tag or name them! Just say they're not doing it, and we will all get the message. 🙄

[+ goosh69]

5 hours ago, robberbaron4u said:

Please, "client" not "John". Even if you " pay for it", afford yourself some small dignity in the hire.

John. Let’s not kid ourselves. We are paying strange men to have sex with us. 

Edited May 4 by goosh69

[robberbaron4u]

48 minutes ago, goosh69 said:

John. Let’s not kid ourselves. We are paying strange men to have sex with us. 

Pat my old bald head, rub the hump on my back, tell me you love me for myself and my American Express Centurion card shall be yours to caress...

[guru68]

"Unavailable

Not taking any farther requests"

 

I guess he either got a job or found Mr. Sweet. I'm going to assume that he misspelled 'further' rather than 'father'.