Aversion to RM Chat?

[PileDriver]

Curious to hear from providers. I love RM Chat to establish a relationship first. So many providers want to jump to texting immediately. Why? I like the buffer. Initial foreplay. Texting is the next level. Getting ready to consummate. No? Curious.

[marylander1940]

It's annoying. 

No way to send a long email just a short phrases. 

Most guys who contact providers this way are a waste of time:

Hi

what's up?

how are you?

They should go back to email with several sentences

This subject has been talked so many times on here...

[LaSanta]

It's too informal. 

[+ DynamicUno]

RM's chat system has a reputation for being unreliable (delivering messages late, dropped alerts, etc), and it doesn't generate native notifications for mobile users which forces users to check the RM page to see if new messages have been received.  Text messaging (SMS or iMessage) or messaging apps like WhatsApp are more robust and natively give notifications when a message is received.  

RM chat's deficiencies are more serious for providers who may be in contact with multiple potential clients at the same time so checking for new message can be more challenging, clients are more likely to follow only one or two conversations at a time.

My personal approach is to message on RM and transition to phone messaging once contact has been made.  That preserves my ability to leave a review, but phone app messaging helps confirm the meeting details more quickly.

Edited April 15, 2024 by DynamicUno

[PileDriver]

not my experience. my best assignations have been with men who are ok with an on going dialogue on RM. have written complete paragraphs and received complete paragraphs in response. 

Edited April 15, 2024 by PileDriver

[Rod Hagen]

I go days without looking at the RM app/page.  I do not go days w/o looking at text.  If the convo stays on RM Chat, I won't keep up.  That may be part of their motivation to move it to text, to not seem as if they are ignoring you.  Also, it's a good way to monetize the relationship,  you'll likely feel compelled to make an actual appointment if the convo is via Text.

Edited April 15, 2024 by Rod Hagen

[Muscle Lover 2]

If they won't talk to me on RM, initially, I move on.    Why?   Because of a provider who, a year ago, took my emails where I mentioned what I was looking for, got my real name and posted all of my half of the conversations all over my social media because I chose not to hire him.    So, I stay on RM until I can tell they are sane and then, when we have some level of normalcy, I am OK to switch to What's App or text.    I may miss a provider or two who refuses to chat on RM, but if it saves me $1,000 having to hire an IT professional to block some nut job, it's worth it.

 

[MikeBiDude]

I prefer the very first 2-3 messages via RM messenger, if possible. I don’t waste time, but state my age, overall prefs, location, and request “visit rate”. If things move along I’m happy to switch to phone/text quickly

If things go wrong, my phone number etc. not available to provider if they get upset…which some inexperienced ones do.

[Your Man in Arlington]

I will always start on RM messenger before moving to text, unless the profile specifically says to contact them by text. Mostly works out for me.

I've recently noticed some providers include a phone number for texting, so you have to contact them on RM messenger first. Probably provides them some level of inquiry control and screening?

[ShortCutie7]

As a potential client, I do not text because I as a general rule do not give my phone number to people I have not met in person.  If that is a dealbreaker for a potential provider, I would simply move on.

[pubic_assistance]

I've had a few RM providers who REFUSE to discuss "business" matters on the RM chat. I suppose they aren't trusting of the degree of privacy they may or may not be getting there.

[+ JamesB]

I'm comfortable using either RM Messenger or text for communication. If the provider has a preferred method mentioned in their ad, I'll adhere to that. Otherwise, my initial contact will typically be through RM Messenger.

[+ DrownedBoy]

3 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I've had a few RM providers who REFUSE to discuss "business" matters on the RM chat. I suppose they aren't trusting of the degree of privacy they may or may not be getting there.

I agree. I don't believe RM messenger is as encrypted as it should be.

I think it's just an unwritten rule - RM for basic info, and texting for actual hiring.

[MCR]

13 hours ago, PileDriver said:

Curious to hear from providers. I love RM Chat to establish a relationship first. So many providers want to jump to texting immediately. Why? I like the buffer. Initial foreplay. Texting is the next level. Getting ready to consummate. No? Curious.

In my experience A LOT of providers who only message via text use a spam app called Mr Number to read what other providers have said about the client whether they meet them or not.  If the client has several reviews, they simply won't engage. 

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

Because a smart escort wants less chain of command info exposure, not more.

Taking the convo away from RM immediately is always a good idea.

[soloyo215]

23 hours ago, PileDriver said:

Curious to hear from providers. I love RM Chat to establish a relationship first. So many providers want to jump to texting immediately. Why? I like the buffer. Initial foreplay. Texting is the next level. Getting ready to consummate. No? Curious.

Preference or experience. The initial chat has been used by some idiots who want to get off without paying a cent because they are that cheap.

[+ DynamicUno]

I've seen some providers set an autoreply in their RM chat where they often provide availability and rates to answer the most common questions up front.  Frequently, I've seen where the autoreply provides instructions to send further contact by text.  I've wondered if the clients tend to follow the instructions, but it seems smart to have the autoreply in place.

 

[caramelsub]

Also to leave a negative review, you must have had some communication with the provider on rentmen chat that is verifiable. I believe some providers turn off rentmen chat to limit the possibility for negative reviews.

[PileDriver]

so my feeling is a handful of exchanges on RM chat are good? prefer to then move to texting. but, also have guys who i've  courted for some time who are still game...so....depends on the guy i guess? just took one yesterday from a top i had been o RM chat for years...

[borgerback]

I tend to prefer the chat as I don't like having details on my text thread; usually happy to move to Whatsapp, if that's available; but I still will reach out on chat for the immediacy of it, when I see a provider I know or am interested in, on-line.

[DWnyc]

On 4/16/2024 at 8:37 AM, soloyo215 said:

Preference or experience. The initial chat has been used by some idiots who want to get off without paying a cent because they are that cheap.

But surely that can happen on text as well?

[DWnyc]

I’m skeptical on the explanation often given “I rarely check RM messages” - why wouldn’t you check the source of the enquiry in the first place - how many other sources of business does the average provider have?

[mike carey]

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Literally snail mail is faster and more reliable than RentMen Messenger.

Well, that's something I would never have expected to read, @Simon Suraci!

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

13 hours ago, Simon Suraci said:

RentMen Messenger is the least reliable because I can’t get push notifications to work

Can confirm.

I have to send automated emails to remind myself to check RM a couple of times a week.

It's why I have an auto-reply with clear instructions to email me privately for a response.

[DWnyc]

I always assumed providers want to get people off RM as soon as they can to avoid explicit discussions on money and anything else they don’t want “out there” and to start whatever background checking they wish to do with additional info available.

I find it amusing when the same providers who are adamant even in their descriptions before the first outreach that you should only ever text - try to send you back to RM to send a message or two to allow for reviews.