NYC - Massage Parlors w/ Older Masseurs

[thelovebroadcast]

8 hours ago, BaronArtz said:

@thelovebroadcast you need to decide for yourself what is most important to you - the mature masseur experience or the massage parlor experience,  It is not likely that you will find both at the same time in NYC.  Clients are used to have access to the finest masseurs at all times  and competition among providers is exceptionally keen.  An aging provider, I am sorry to say, is not likely to last long at a commercial parlor.  Demand for them is very limited indeed.

From what you write here, you are into mature masseurs.  Rentmasseur IS your friend.  Although I have never looked for it, I believe there are choices in the 35 year+ segment,  A few masseurs, while solo practitioners at their own place, sometimes offer sessions at a parlor.   Is this guy too immature for you? I know he works out of a massage parlor:

Gay Massage & Male Masseur vipmomentsnyc in New York City, NY (rentmasseur.com)

I hope you will have a good time participating on this forum and wish you much success finding the masseur of your dreams!

Thanks so much!  I really love Masseur Finder and the others.  I hope the implications in my original post showed that I do know  finding an older guy in a parlour is rare, which is why I decided to create a topic listing to do a broader search to see if anyone has specific experience with older guys at any of the parlors (they do).  It's not lost on me that most older guys also probably care more about their reputation and are smart enough to want to keep their own money (which is something younger guys aren't thinking through just yet).  This is the same reason why younger guys are more prevalent in porn, but it also speaks to the larger demand of people who prefer to look at and pretend to be adored by youthful looking people.  One doesn't need to do too deep of a dive to recognize why this is, specifically in America.  

Anyway, to everyone who has messaged, thank you.  Keep messaging me and I'll post regular updates.  

And to @pubic_assistance -- I hope you understand that when you're talking within your community of other gay men (or queer, however you want to identify this group), you should recognize that our bond is special and should be protected.  To liken older people to stale bread, old food, or just a fetish is so beyond insulting to the people who quite literally had to fight for their lives to exist. They are beautiful and should be respected, not made fun of.  It saddens me you can't see this.  

Maybe you're afraid of growing old, maybe you resent being older, I don't know.  But whatever it is, I hope you can try and heal whatever is inside of you that makes you feel entitled to be negative.  I hope that when/if you are older, you will be shown love and respect by people of all ages.

 

[+ EVdude]

“Mature” is in the eye of the beholder. I do like a seasoned masseur. Some older parlor guys that do it for me:

Andy @ W and G Men Spas

Frank @ Tai Chi on East 6th

Chen @ Yeah Man

One of the managers (? Name) @ Why Not 

Xiao @ Owner of Shangrila (not sure he still does sessions in the spa)

 

[pubic_assistance]

2 hours ago, thelovebroadcast said:

And to @pubic_assistance -- I hope you understand that when you're talking within your community of other gay men (or queer, however you want to identify this group), you should recognize that our bond is special and should be protected.  To liken older people to stale bread, old food, or just a fetish is so beyond insulting to the people who quite literally had to fight for their lives to exist. They are beautiful and should be respected, not made fun of.  It saddens me you can't see this.  

Maybe you're afraid of growing old, maybe you resent being older, I don't know.  But whatever it is, I hope you can try and heal whatever is inside of you that makes you feel entitled to be negative.  I hope that when/if you are older, you will be shown love and respect by people of all ages.

I think you're missing the point of this entire conversation.

We aren't discussing the general public of gay men.

We are discussing the massage industry as it is marketed to gay men at massage parlors.

All your comments above are all lovely and granola and all...but they have little to do with the subject at hand.

90% of everyone here is looking for YOUNG, cute guys to hire. Simple fact of life.

If  I wanted some old man to touch me, I wouldn't be paying for it.

The definition of a fetish is something that is very specific that turns on a very small segment of a community. That's what you're asking about. A specific interest that most people don't get into. Nothing insulting about it. It is what it is.

So if you like old masseurs, by all means GO FOR IT !  🥳

Seems like a few members managed to scrounge up some examples of what you want inspite of the rarity. So thanks to all who know which corners of the industry to look in.

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[pubic_assistance]

39 minutes ago, EVdude said:

Some older parlor guys that do it for me:

Andy @ W and G Men Spas

Andy is great. I concur. Has he been around so long that he's now considered "old" ?

[LookingAround]

2 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

Andy is great. I concur. Has he been around so long that he's now considered "old" ?

The Andy there I met was, to my surprise, around 40. 

[thelovebroadcast]

16 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I think you're missing the point of this entire conversation.

We aren't discussing the general public of gay men.

We are discussing the massage industry as it is marketed to gay men at massage parlors.

All your comments above are all lovely and granola and all...but they have little to do with the subject at hand.

90% of everyone here is looking for YOUNG, cute guys to hire. Simple fact of life.

If  I wanted some old man to touch me, I wouldn't be paying for it.

The definition of a fetish is something that is very specific that turns on a very small segment of a community. That's what you're asking about. A specific interest that most people don't get into. Nothing insulting about it. It is what it is.

So if you like old masseurs, by all means GO FOR IT !  🥳

Seems like a few members managed to scrounge up some examples of what you want inspite of the rarity. So thanks to all who know which corners of the industry to look in.

Actually all of your points have little to do with the subject at hand.  I was asking for older masseurs and you chime in with insults about older people.  You can go back and read your posts if you want to.  I don't understand how you can't see the whole intent of my posting.  I literally said in my VERY FIRST post that MOST PEOPLE are into younger guys and MOST PARLORS have those younger guys, but I was asking if anyone knew of parlors and/or masseurs who didn't fit that stereotype.  No one is (or ever was) arguing against the fact that most people are looking for younger guys. Your logic to chime in and remind me of something I already stated in my original post is unnecessary.  

And while we're not discussing *specifically* gay men, you are talking *directly* to other gay men, and you should do so with respect and refrain from insults, especially toward people who fought their entire lives to simply exist.  And these parlors exist for gay, bi, and questioning men to experience physical touch, and some of us need that.  Not just want that, but need that.  So when you argue against someone simply looking for a niche variation of what's normally offered, and you don't have any recommends, you can simply keep your mouth shut.  All that to say, you need to grow up.

[pubic_assistance]

37 minutes ago, thelovebroadcast said:

So when you argue against someone simply looking for a niche variation of what's normally offered, and you don't have any recommends, you can simply keep your mouth shut.  All that to say, you need to grow up.

No one "argued against" your fetish.

Besides you got a few suggestions from others who seems to be more observant than I am about scrounging up old men for hire. So your request did get results. No need to squabble over whether of not you enjoyed my contribution to the conversation. There's a block feature available if you dislike my delivery style. No need to be such a Karen about it.

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[LookingAround]

I’m beginning to question how sincere the OP is versus a troll. He seems to want to keep an argument going for the sake of arguing. I’m not buying it. Made up post. 

[d.anders]

33 minutes ago, LookingAround said:

He seems to want to keep an argument going for the sake of arguing.

Some people are like that. It can be tiring.

16 hours ago, LookingAround said:

The Andy there I met was, to my surprise, around 40.

Yep, at 40, by the youngins' in my life, I was declared "old." Now, in my 60's, I'm either ancient or dead.

[d.anders]

18 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

90% of everyone here is looking for YOUNG, cute guys to hire.

I'm happy to settle for a license at this point. LOL. No young for me. I've never met a young masseur who exhibited strong talent. I also don't think young guys know very much about how to be sensual. I think it takes some years to develop technique and knowledge. I'm perfectly happy with 30+.

As for cute, well that really depends on taste. I'll take sexy over cute any day.

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[d.anders]

5 minutes ago, pubic_assistance said:

Andy looks good for 40

Well that's the thing about "age" in our time. So many people are looking great at an older age, like never before. I once had a fabulous massage by a guy on MF. His ad said he was 38, and there was nothing about his appearance that would suggest otherwise. While I was on his table, enduring his painful but masterful work, he confessed to being 52. I applauded him, not only for his honest confession, but for his gene pool.

[pubic_assistance]

1 minute ago, d.anders said:

His ad said he was 38, and there was nothing about his appearance that would suggest otherwise.

As was discussed on another thread, I have no problem with someone listing their age according to how they LOOK as opposed to a real calendar date.  40 DOES seem to be a turning point for a lot of men, where everything starts to fall apart if they don't take care to eat well, exercise and avoid indulgences like drugs and alcohol. This is why you rarely find guys like Andy who still keep a good string of regular clients coming back for his  massage skills ( and good looks ).

[Rudynate]

On 1/15/2024 at 5:46 PM, pubic_assistance said:

That's like asking for a restaurant with old food. It's not part of the formula. Stick to Masseurfinder.com

Inaccurate -  better said that it's not part of YOUR formula. . The OP is proof that there may be other formulas than yours. 

[Necks]

19 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I think you're missing the point of this entire conversation.

We aren't discussing the general public of gay men.

We are discussing the massage industry as it is marketed to gay men at massage parlors.

All your comments above are all lovely and granola and all...but they have little to do with the subject at hand.

90% of everyone here is looking for YOUNG, cute guys to hire. Simple fact of life.

If  I wanted some old man to touch me, I wouldn't be paying for it.

The definition of a fetish is something that is very specific that turns on a very small segment of a community. That's what you're asking about. A specific interest that most people don't get into. Nothing insulting about it. It is what it is.

So if you like old masseurs, by all means GO FOR IT !  🥳

Seems like a few members managed to scrounge up some examples of what you want inspite of the rarity. So thanks to all who know which corners of the industry to look in.

What are you going on about? Stop.

OP is asking for recommendations for older masseurs, and here you are on your soapbox spewing bullshit. You're like the vegan lady with dreadlocks meme. Stop trying so hard.

Yeah older masseurs are rarer shut up about that. No one cares about your "this is reality" rant. We're here looking for something specific. Contribute.

[pubic_assistance]

29 minutes ago, Rudynate said:

The OP is proof that there may be other formulas than yours. 

@Necks said: We're here looking for something specific. Contribute.

YES

We've already established that I was wrong.

Beat another dead horse, gents.

The Karens are out in force today.

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[Cooper]

Administrator’s Message 

Gentlemen, The subject is: “NYC - Massage Parlors w/ Older Masseurs”.

Please, stay on topic and stop the bickering. 

[thelovebroadcast]

On 1/19/2024 at 12:10 PM, LookingAround said:

I’m beginning to question how sincere the OP is versus a troll. He seems to want to keep an argument going for the sake of arguing. I’m not buying it. Made up post. 

A made up post?  I've responded to every message from the actual troll AND I've provided my responses to the group.  Nothing made up about that.

[thelovebroadcast]

On 1/19/2024 at 1:38 PM, Necks said:

What are you going on about? Stop.

OP is asking for recommendations for older masseurs, and here you are on your soapbox spewing bullshit. You're like the vegan lady with dreadlocks meme. Stop trying so hard.

Yeah older masseurs are rarer shut up about that. No one cares about your "this is reality" rant. We're here looking for something specific. Contribute.

Thank you!

[+ sniper]

On 1/19/2024 at 1:15 PM, pubic_assistance said:

As was discussed on another thread, I have no problem with someone listing their age according to how they LOOK as opposed to a real calendar date.  40 DOES seem to be a turning point for a lot of men, where everything starts to fall apart if they don't take care to eat well, exercise and avoid indulgences like drugs and alcohol. This is why you rarely find guys like Andy who still keep a good string of regular clients coming back for his  massage skills ( and good looks ).

Tangent: when I was 39 i got almost no hits on my dating profiles, because that's the age a lot of people list who are anywhere from 1-50 years older. But once the age field said 40, the daddychasers came out of the woodwork.

 

[UncutDad]

Not sure who wrote it, but the "Karens are out in force" comment made me laugh.

1.) We're really still using the term Massage Parlor?  Is Mae West running them? You'll have to Google that name Gen XYZ or whatever you are.

2.) To Pubic_Assistance, I'm older and your comments don't indicate anything to me except ignorance.  And guess what? I have below zero interest in young guys. It's like eating green cantaloupe. It will be fascinating to see how you are dressing and behaving should you be lucky enough to get to be a "fetish" or "old food" of being older.  

3.) To answer the original poster's questions.  There are older massage men out there. Two of them that immediately come to mind are Rob_CMT who used to live in NYC.  And Hud who used to live in Chicago. They are on RMasseur and MasseurFinder when they work. Both are traveling massage men now, and I can say with confidence that as far as massage goes, there is no young guy or even slightly older than 40 guys that can come close to their massage styles...they are mind blowing massage men.  If there are better older massage guys than these two, i'd like to know about them.  Seriously, please forward their names to me.  Older men are not a fetish, and they (we) can be very hot.

4.)To the original poster.  Ignore the haters.  I am grateful to be recognized as a Daddy in the community and I turn down young guys with regularity...again, "green cantaloupe".  I get more offers for hooking up now than I did when I was in my 20s, 30's and 40's

5.) Ok, i need to get ready for bed...can someone help me with my casket-bed?  I'm so old. Lol

 

Edited January 25 by UncutDad

[Marc in Calif]

On 1/17/2024 at 6:00 PM, Monarchy79 said:

The classic backhanded apology. 

I rest my case. 

And always innocently "confused" when called on the attitude or on incorrect facts...

[pubic_assistance]

13 hours ago, UncutDad said:

To Pubic_Assistance, I'm older and your comments don't indicate anything to me except ignorance.....

3.) To answer the original poster's questions.  There are older massage men out there. Two of them that immediately come to mind are Rob_CMT who used to live in NYC.  And Hud who used to live in Chicago. They are on RMasseur and MasseurFinder when they work.

The conversation here is about older providers AT MASSAGE PARLORS (or whatever those businesses are supposed to be called). NOT guys on the apps. I am well aware that there are PLENTY of old daddy types on the sites.

My impression at the "parlors" throughout New York is that *young and cute* is ALWAYS who's sitting up front because that's what sells !!   I have, however, been proven wrong over-all as others have mentioned a few places that have an old man or two. But I would point out this is by far, still the exception to the rule, so my "ignorance" as you call it is a matter of paying attention to the conversation and not wandering off on a tangent.

The result of the thread is that there's exception to every rule. There's a few oldie but goodies scattered here and there at the "Men's Spa" massage places. Probably hiding in the back because I've never seen one.

 

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[LookingAround]

I think Pubic Assistsnce (and I) have been shown to be correct. No one has named a spa with a significant stable of older massage therapists. 
Time to retire this thread? Yes, pun intended. 

[Marc in Calif]

1 hour ago, LookingAround said:

I think Pubic Assistsnce (and I) have been shown to be correct. No one has named a spa with a significant stable of older massage therapists. 

The OP was NOT looking for spas with "a significant stable of older massage therapists."

He asked "if any of you know of any parlors in NYC that have guys 40+." He never said that the place had to have more than one or two older guys. No stables needed.

And other members then answered in the affirmative with names of spas in NYC. 

[UncutDad]

4 hours ago, LookingAround said:

I think Pubic Assistsnce (and I) have been shown to be correct. No one has named a spa with a significant stable of older massage therapists. 
Time to retire this thread? Yes, pun intended. 

Yea, that's your folly.  You seem to think you have the definitive answer for everyone.  You've seemingly impressed yourself with what you think is "correct" and decided that's the end of the topic.  Discounting anyone else that doesn't align with your POV.  Thankfully, no one sees you the way you see yourself...well maybe your cats do.

Edited January 26 by UncutDad