Ali Gator Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Variety Magazine has listed the best television shows of all time, and says "I Love Lucy" tops the list. Following 'Lucy' (in order): 2 - Mad Men 3- The Sopranos 4- The Simpsons 5- Breaking Bad 6- Sex and the City 7- The Wire 8- Seinfeld 9- The Mary Tyler Moore Show 10- Roots The 100 Greatest TV Shows of All Time VARIETY.COM Variety breaks down the best TV shows of all time. From The Sopranos to Community, these are the best series ever aired. Marc in Calif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ nycman Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Crappy list IMHO. Lucy #1…I can live with. The rest of the top 100? Either completely wrong or at the very least way out of order. Marc in Calif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viewing ownly Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I thought Roots was a mini-series, not a show? I love Seinfeld, but as time goes on, more and more people who used to no longer do. It took a few decades for me before I really, really liked a sitcom like I did with that one, which was "Brooklyn Nine-Nine". The American "Office" passed me by in it's time, but I've enjoyed catching up with it in syndication. I love many game shows that are 30 minutes, with one of my favorites being the one Peter Tomarken hosted prior to Press Your Luck with the little aliens moving up a board, Hit Man. I was too young to care, but it is shocking to see any tv "all-time" top 10 list and have M*A*S*H not on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 I would hope many people would agree on I Love Lucy. Excellent writing and Lucy was so funny thomas, Ali Gator and liubit 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ purplekow Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Checked out the full 100 List. Succession was way too high in my opinion. There were none on the list that I truly disliked but Jeopardy was very low for a show that is legendary and still going. Marc in Calif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ sync Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Of the shows listed I would have gone with Seinfeld. Marc in Calif 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormy Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 All in the Family should be in the top 5. thomas, + nycman, + WilliamM and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BenjaminNicholas Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) Shows like these- especially comedies- are so subjective. Everyone has a wildly different sense of humor. For me, dry/satiric/witty/biting comedy is what I go for. I'd have put in shows like The Comeback, Absolutely Fabulous, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, Black Books, The Other Two, Hacks, Episodes, etc. That said, it's good fodder for conversations like these to see where everyone stands. Edited December 21, 2023 by BenjaminNicholas thomas, mike carey and Ali Gator 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becket Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 Never laughed so hard as when watching the 70's show Soap. I thought it was hysterical. Shows my weird sense of humor I suppose. Ali Gator, Stormy and MikeBiDude 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) Bozo's first sexual fantasy was being a young clown totally naked, cavorting in a hot tub with an equally naked Fred Mertz...... Fred was the teacher. Bozo was the eager student, seeking to learn how to properly please a lover from an older, attractive, experienced gentleman.. As we were on the cusp of a mutual orgasm, Ethel walked in the bathroom... ruined everything. Poor Bozo... Poor Fred.... BTC Edited December 22, 2023 by BOZO T CLOWN thomas and + Charlie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeBiDude Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 10 hours ago, sync said: That series birthed my crush on Wilmer Valderrama, and it has gotten even better. Thanks for the pics of Wilmer...but I believe @Becket was referring to a (hilarious) show named "Soap" produced in the 1970's. As opposed to Wilmer's "That 70's Show". Becket and + sync 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ sync Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 7 hours ago, MikeBiDude said: Thanks for the pics of Wilmer...but I believe @Becket was referring to a (hilarious) show named "Soap" produced in the 1970's. As opposed to Wilmer's "That 70's Show". Thank you @MikeBiDude for that catch, and my apologies to @Becket for my faux pas. MikeBiDude and Becket 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhexum Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, sync said: Thank you @MikeBiDude for that catch, and my apologies to @Becket for my faux pas. You should only commit authentic pas. thomas, + Charlie, + sync and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 17 hours ago, BOZO T CLOWN said: Bozo's first sexual fantasy was being a young clown totally naked, cavorting in a hot tub with an equally naked Fred Mertz...... Fred was the teacher. Bozo was the eager student, seeking to learn how to properly please a lover from an older, attractive, experienced gentleman.. As we were on the cusp of a mutual orgasm, Ethel walked in the bathroom... ruined everything. Poor Bozo... Poor Fred.... BTC Fred was straight, my friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, WilliamM said: Fred was straight, my friend Fred Mertz was obviously gay. Probably a voracious bottom. Sadly, the moral codes of that era prevented the character from being too open or flamboyant about his sexuality. Like James Dean and Tab Hunter, Fred Mertz was a gay icon to younger closeted gay men in the 50's. Ethel was his lesbian beard. Fred and Ethel slept in separate beds, had no kids, and probably never had sex. Fred Mertz was a "man's man" BTC Edited December 22, 2023 by BOZO T CLOWN + nycman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Charlie Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 I was a younger gay man in the '50s who watched I Love Lucy every week, and I never felt the slightest gay vibe from Fred. He reminded me of my grandfather, who was a grumpy old private detective. MikeBiDude, Njguy2 and thomas 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhexum Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 2 hours ago, WilliamM said: Fred was straight, my friend Yeah, but he was a drunk, so under the right circumstances... thomas and TruHart1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 3 hours ago, samhexum said: Yeah, but he was a drunk, so under the right circumstances... When Desi Arnez chose William Frawley for Fred, he told him no more drinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhexum Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 1 minute ago, WilliamM said: When Desi Arnez chose William Frawley for Fred, he told him no more drinking Yes, and to his credit he never showed up to work drunk, but don't you think the thought of getting it on with @BOZO T CLOWN after work would have driven him straight to the bottle for some liquid courage? (I mean, have you seen the size of that clown's shoes?) 😁🤣😇😊😲 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, samhexum said: Yes, and to his credit he never showed up to work drunk, but don't you think the thought of getting it on with @BOZO T CLOWN after work would have driven him straight to the bottle for some liquid courage? (I mean, have you seen the size of that clown's shoes?) 😁🤣😇😊😲 Mr. Frawley was also on My Three Sons, So it was clear he was hardly a clown in his personal life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samhexum Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 33 minutes ago, samhexum said: Yes, and to his credit he never showed up to work drunk, but don't you think the thought of getting it on with @BOZO T CLOWN after work would have driven him straight to the bottle for some liquid courage? (I mean, have you seen the size of that clown's shoes?) 10 minutes ago, WilliamM said: Mr. Frawley was also on My Three Sons, So it was clear he was hardly a clown in his personal life You didn't follow the narrative... Mr. Frawley would have needed liquid courage to get it on with @BOZO T CLOWN On 12/21/2023 at 4:24 PM, BOZO T CLOWN said: Bozo's first sexual fantasy was being a young clown totally naked, cavorting in a hot tub with an equally naked Fred Mertz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ WilliamM Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 What is a "young clown" as apposed to a "a middle aged clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 42 minutes ago, WilliamM said: What is a "young clown" as apposed to a "a middle aged clown. about 20 years. BTC mike carey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BOZO T CLOWN Posted December 22, 2023 Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, samhexum said: Yeah, but he was a drunk, so under the right circumstances... William Frawley the actor may (or may not) have been a drunk; however, Fred Mertz the landlord was definitely not an alcoholic. And it is unfortunate that you chose to disparage the reputation of one of America's most beloved characters. Bozo doesn't recall ever seeing him drink anything stronger than coffee. BTC Edited December 23, 2023 by BOZO T CLOWN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Gator Posted December 22, 2023 Author Share Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) On 12/20/2023 at 10:55 PM, viewing ownly said: I thought Roots was a mini-series, not a show? Back then in the 70s, "Roots" was considered a mini-series with eight episodes airing. Today, eight episodes qualify as a 'season' for a series - 'The Gilded Age', 'Julia', 'Fellow Travelers' for starters. I found the list to be too heavy-handed from the 21st Century. There's not enough from the 50s and 60s (Where's BEWITCHED ? First show to deal with 'mixed marriages', prejudices and brought us Paul Lynde and Agnes Moorehead together!) Most importantly, where was "Upstairs / Downstairs" on the list ? Or "I, Claudius" ? Edited December 22, 2023 by Ali Gator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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