francisssgorg Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Any provider who's offering budget friendly services? We can even skip the massage part, no need for that haha! NY/NJ located here. Hopefully somebody could reply 😅 RandyVue, BonVivant, BuffaloKyle and 2 others 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ BobPS Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 You get what you pay for and quality is remembered long after price is forgotten. Hiring a provider is not like Walmart. pubic_assistance, francisssgorg, + BenjaminNicholas and 5 others 3 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 41 minutes ago, francisssgorg said: Any provider who's offering budget friendly services? We can even skip the massage part, no need for that haha! NY/NJ located here. Hopefully somebody could reply 😅 francisssg.org 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francisssgorg Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 47 minutes ago, BobPS said: You get what you pay for and quality is remembered long after price is forgotten. Hiring a provider is not like Walmart. Preach.. Hahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maninsoma Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 7 hours ago, BobPS said: You get what you pay for and quality is remembered long after price is forgotten. Hiring a provider is not like Walmart. I'll be the contrarian here. I think there's a lot of justification/rationalization on this site regarding rates and quality. I actually don't think that higher rates necessarily equates to a better quality experience. Some of the worst erotic massages I ever had were from guys who charged the most. One of my favorite escorts (whom I hired many times) was a college student who set his rates so low that I always tipped him very generously. My other regular had rates that were average at the time. I also used to hire off Craigslist quite a lot and had many good experiences with guys whose rates were on the lower end, and a few times I hired guys with higher profiles for a higher rate and didn't enjoy myself nearly as much. One of the worst was a "porn star" who just seemed haggard and very well may have been coming down off a meth bender. I'm not saying that I never enjoyed myself with someone whose rates were towards the top of the tier; I'm just saying that my enjoyment historically has had little correlation with how much I was paying. + Drew Collins, + Pensant, JamesB and 15 others 6 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTJOCK Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, maninsoma said: I'll be the contrarian here. I think there's a lot of justification/rationalization on this site regarding rates and quality. I actually don't think that higher rates necessarily equates to a better quality experience. Some of the worst erotic massages I ever had were from guys who charged the most. One of my favorite escorts (whom I hired many times) was a college student who set his rates so low that I always tipped him very generously. My other regular had rates that were average at the time. I also used to hire off Craigslist quite a lot and had many good experiences with guys whose rates were on the lower end, and a few times I hired guys with higher profiles for a higher rate and didn't enjoy myself nearly as much. One of the worst was a "porn star" who just seemed haggard and very well may have been coming down off a meth bender. I'm not saying that I never enjoyed myself with someone whose rates were towards the top of the tier; I'm just saying that my enjoyment historically has had little correlation with how much I was paying. I can certainly see your point. Sometimes you only know from experience with the provider. And no, your not a "contrarian" , I always appreciate a different point of view to ponder. soloyo215 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloyo215 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, francisssgorg said: Any provider who's offering budget friendly services? We can even skip the massage part, no need for that haha! NY/NJ located here. Hopefully somebody could reply 😅 In my city there are certain areas where, at night some gentlemen stand out in corners offering discount and dollar-store quality sex. In a serious note, I agree about paying insane prices not being equivalent to obtaining a quality experience. There are posts here about clients getting ripped off by providers and not getting what they paid for (This is an example). There are also many posts about fake profiles, fake reviews and fake information. What we do have now is a better way of connecting, researching and consequently making better decisions about providers and/or clients. That also provides a layer of protection to both clients and providers. Still, I do believe that some providers are overpriced, maybe due to their inexperience (the young ones tend to suffer more of that), or by the attitude that they have to get compensated for making some kind of "sacrifice" by having sex with a person they wouldn't have sex with by choice. Then there are also the typical concepts of marketing (high price is perceived as better, lower price as too good to be true). Those things do come to play from us clients. That said, and this is just for a massage, I've found in my town a very inexpensive masseur that provides the best massage ever. The guy is excellent. And he is the most inexpensive I've seen in my town. I imagine that the same possibility can exist for escort services. Personally I don't think it's an unreasonable inquiry to check rates. Edited October 5, 2023 by soloyo215 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 hour ago, maninsoma said: I actually don't think that higher rates necessarily equates to a better quality experience. While that often can be the case, I seriously doubt anyone of remark and worthwhile is going jump all over this offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medin Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 On 10/5/2023 at 6:47 AM, maninsoma said: I'll be the contrarian here. I think there's a lot of justification/rationalization on this site regarding rates and quality. I actually don't think that higher rates necessarily equates to a better quality experience. Some of the worst erotic massages I ever had were from guys who charged the most. One of my favorite escorts (whom I hired many times) was a college student who set his rates so low that I always tipped him very generously. My other regular had rates that were average at the time. I also used to hire off Craigslist quite a lot and had many good experiences with guys whose rates were on the lower end, and a few times I hired guys with higher profiles for a higher rate and didn't enjoy myself nearly as much. One of the worst was a "porn star" who just seemed haggard and very well may have been coming down off a meth bender. I'm not saying that I never enjoyed myself with someone whose rates were towards the top of the tier; I'm just saying that my enjoyment historically has had little correlation with how much I was paying. 100% agree. A higher rate rarely means a higher level of service or quality. In fact, it is usually just the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massageguy99 Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 On 10/5/2023 at 4:47 AM, maninsoma said: I'll be the contrarian here. I think there's a lot of justification/rationalization on this site regarding rates and quality. I actually don't think that higher rates necessarily equates to a better quality experience. Some of the worst erotic massages I ever had were from guys who charged the most. One of my favorite escorts (whom I hired many times) was a college student who set his rates so low that I always tipped him very generously. My other regular had rates that were average at the time. I also used to hire off Craigslist quite a lot and had many good experiences with guys whose rates were on the lower end, and a few times I hired guys with higher profiles for a higher rate and didn't enjoy myself nearly as much. One of the worst was a "porn star" who just seemed haggard and very well may have been coming down off a meth bender. I'm not saying that I never enjoyed myself with someone whose rates were towards the top of the tier; I'm just saying that my enjoyment historically has had little correlation with how much I was paying. Man I miss the CL days. It is what got me into receiving massages. I had some amazing experience that where so much cheaper than anyone on the other sites. I also agree that price does not equal a better experience. In fact for me personally I have a cap and if a provider is above that I just don't engage. I never ask a provider to reduce their fee I just move on. I know what a sensual massage is worth for me. I also leverage the idea that I may get a did no matter what the reviews say because each experience is unique. + Vegas_Millennial 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ JEC Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 If you are willing to do the work, there are bargains to be had on Grindr and the other hookup apps. The "work" is finding those guys who are open to a compensated arrangement. The apps do not support this activity, and will shut down members and discussion that wander into the "paid" space, so it can be tricky to navigate but there is opportunity to be had here. You need to learn the code words to use to see if there is interest then take discussion outside the app. I have a friend who I met on this board who has a LOT of success here 🍆🍑 good luck + Vegas_Millennial and + Pensant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 8 hours ago, JEC said: If you are willing to do the work, there are bargains to be had on Grindr and the other hookup apps. The "work" is finding those guys who are open to a compensated arrangement. The apps do not support this activity, and will shut down members and discussion that wander into the "paid" space, so it can be tricky to navigate but there is opportunity to be had here. You need to learn the code words to use to see if there is interest then take discussion outside the app. I have a friend who I met on this board who has a LOT of success here 🍆🍑 good luck Weird. Just glancing through Grindr ads, a lot of older men added messages specififying they don't want to pay. I got propositioned by a twink escort, and I hadn't even looked at his entry. I assume there's a lot more of that on Grindr than I'd imagine. + Pensant and MikeBiDude 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoDrew Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 1 hour ago, DrownedBoy said: Weird. Just glancing through Grindr ads, a lot of older men added messages specififying they don't want to pay. I got propositioned by a twink escort, and I hadn't even looked at his entry. I assume there's a lot more of that on Grindr than I'd imagine. I've had a few guys approach me on Grindr about hiring them. Never amounted to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ FrankR Posted October 20, 2023 Share Posted October 20, 2023 10 hours ago, TorontoDrew said: I've had a few guys approach me on Grindr about hiring them. Never amounted to anything. My recommendation: strike while the iron is hot. Dont wait. Dont try to schedule something for next week. Jump on it immediately. Just my 2c. 😉 MikeBiDude and + Vegas_Millennial 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gn233 Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 On 10/19/2023 at 7:14 PM, DrownedBoy said: Weird. Just glancing through Grindr ads, a lot of older men added messages specififying they don't want to pay. I got propositioned by a twink escort, and I hadn't even looked at his entry. I assume there's a lot more of that on Grindr than I'd imagine. So is that code? like them saying they don't wanna pay is really just a app friendly way of saying they would? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maninsoma Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 11 hours ago, gn233 said: So is that code? like them saying they don't wanna pay is really just a app friendly way of saying they would? No, I think it's to try to stop guys from sending messages of interest that don't initially mention money that then lead to a request for a "donation" after there's an expression of mutual interest. In other words, don't act like you're interested in me if your ultimate goal is to get a client because I am not willing to pay anyone. + DrownedBoy and MikeBiDude 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logitcore Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 If budget matters, I sometimes send providers my pics and ask for a discount. I think they appreciate seeing who their client is before hand just to make sure you're a normal dude ya kno? MikeBiDude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gn233 Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 6 hours ago, Logitcore said: If budget matters, I sometimes send providers my pics and ask for a discount. I think they appreciate seeing who their client is before hand just to make sure you're a normal dude ya kno? I think you can just send a photo without asking for a discount. I just think it's kinda insulting maninsoma, MikeBiDude and Simon Suraci 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ Pensant Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) I’ve heard similar stories of amazing Grindr hires. I just dread downloading that app, or any similar ones. I’m trying to be more “analog” in my life these days! Edited October 22, 2023 by Pensant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Suraci Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 On 10/21/2023 at 3:03 PM, Logitcore said: If budget matters, I sometimes send providers my pics and ask for a discount. I think they appreciate seeing who their client is before hand just to make sure you're a normal dude ya kno? I strongly suggest NOT doing this. When you have a firm cap on what you’re willing to spend, I suggest sticking to providers that advertise a figure within that cap. Sending photos and asking for a discount puts a good provider in an awkward position. First off, it makes you seem entitled. Not a good tone to start things. Second, if he agrees, he’s less motivated to provide you with the same level of service he normally would. You’re basically asking for subpar service. OR he’s providing the same or better service for less, but ONLY for clients he finds attractive. That’s not how this business works. That’s a sign of a bad provider. He doesn’t get it. This isn’t Grindr with money exchange. His needs and desires should not be the focus. It really shows when you have a guy who clearly has his own agenda and wants to get paid for it too. That makes for a bad client experience. It’s tolerable in a hookup, but not in a hire. When the photo with discount request scenario happens to me - and it does more frequently than I care for - you’re suggesting that you’re so attractive that the provider should perform a service to you for less because you presumably provide more non-tangible value to the provider than what you’re willing to pay, and you’re assuming the provider values said non-tangible benefit literally more than his livelihood. That’s a big ask. Fine for a hookup. Not fine when you’re working to pay your bills. For me, it’s the same work, the same time, and the same focus on client satisfaction. It doesn’t matter if you’re physically attractive or an oaf. I’m still making your pleasure the priority. Arguably, the less attractive client is often easier to please. Hygiene, communication, respect, and other things being equal, the more attractive clients can often be higher maintenance compared to less attractive clients. It just depends. I’ve worked with some really beautiful jerks in my time, and I much prefer good chemistry and mutual respect with an average or unattractive client. I’ve worked with some very attractive yet very good people too. You never know. It’s not all about looks. We spend the same hours before, during, and after your appointment devoted to bringing you the best. It behooves us to entertain clients who pay our full rates. Spending that same time on clients demanding to pay less is a disservice to our business and livelihood. We can hook up on our own time if we really want to, and the rules and dynamics are totally different when no money is involved. When you hire, you’re getting something of value, so please value it accordingly and respect us by doing so. If you want to hook up, try the apps. Your beauty will get you pretty far there, but remember people are flaky, selfish, disrespectful, shallow, impatient, impulsive, and mostly only considering their own needs. Hiring bypasses all that stuff. Providers offer inherent value in that regard. When you hire, you are asking someone to make YOU their priority and serve your needs, on your schedule, the way you see fit. If your provider enjoys the experience (good acting or genuine, you never need to know the difference), all the better, but his focus is on serving you to the best of his ability. A good provider gets that, and to provide a quality experience demands of a provider the same level of attention and care than he would deliver for a less attractive client. Therefore, he should be compensated the same. mike carey, Your Man in Arlington, + Drew Collins and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikePDNA51 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 KneadingM on RentMasseur in Los Angeles provides the budget service if specified when contacted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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