Time use when with clients…”on the clock”

[+ DrownedBoy]

9 minutes ago, KensingtonHomo said:

While I agree SOME people feel this way, it is a horrible mindset to approach being a client or a provider. 

Maybe it will become a better mindset when they come out with AI-powered sexbots.  

[Archangel]

4 hours ago, KensingtonHomo said:

While I agree SOME people feel this way, it is a horrible mindset to approach being a client or a provider. 

That could be said about any work.

[Guest]

I've hired my share of long-term hires. I can think of three situations off-hand in which it is NOT appropriate for the person I'm with (or anyone else) to answer his phone/texts: (1) During moments of intimacy, (2) During meals, and (3) During performances (plays, operas, drag shows, and so on). As for working at a 2nd job while on a long-term hire, this should be disclosed before-hand, with the time allowance expected, and discount appropriately applied. In general, when traveling, it should be OK for the provider to use the hotel's gym, provided this works within the schedule. I agree with others that these are things which should be discussed when discussing the potential hiring process. 

[Archangel]

Just now, Unicorn said:

I've hired my share of long-term hires. I can think of three situations off-hand in which it is NOT appropriate for the person I'm with (or anyone else) to answer his phone/texts: (1) During moments of intimacy, (2) During meals, and (3) During performances (plays, operas, drag shows, and so on). As for working at a 2nd job while on a long-term hire, this should be disclosed before-hand, with the time allowance expected, and discount appropriately applied. In general, when traveling, it should be OK for the provider to use the hotel's gym, provided this works within the schedule. I agree with others that these are things which should be discussed when discussing the potential hiring process. 

I’d add watching a movie or TV intentionally. There’s passive “kill” time together and there’s “active” entertainment time together. Maybe that falls under intimacy. I’m not sure.

Meals is a biggie for me. As a single person, I eat alone enough and have to plan when I’m going to eat with people. If I’m on a BFE with a guy, mealtimes is not time to be on your phone. Even if it’s just mealtime at home. I cook and clean up from meals. Use your phone then. Not at the table. 

[+ purplekow]

On 9/17/2023 at 2:53 PM, Archangel said:

Everyone needs me time…I think. That’s not the discussion here. The discussion is what is “on the clock” time.

 

 I use that example because if we’re paying for time, then time should be comparable between escorts. Not one for one of course, but comparable. We often ask about the market rate in NYC compared to Chicago, say. Well, if we’re paying for a muscle to spend time in the gym, not with us, that would be different rate between him and a twink who spends his time with us who’d otherwise be in the gym. So a twink’s per hour rate with us would be cheaper than a muscle guy if he spends more time with us than the muscle guy if the muscle guy is considering his gym time as something different from me time, as comped time but not with us. If we’re paying for time…

I don’t know if I made myself clear. I know it’s clear in my head but it sounds confusing in explaining it! 😂 

As I see it, there are 24 hours in a day.  If you have hired someone for three days, there is us together time and us separate time.  Some activities are done together and some are done separate and there are activities that can go either way.  

Meals:  almost always together time even if the escort is on a special diet and is not eating what you are eating. Attention to each other is nice but not mandatory, for example if you are eating and watching a movie.   

Bathroom time, separate at least for me.  There are some that may want to be there as the rocket capsule splashes down or when the borrowed beer is returned to the outside world, but for me, I do not need to be there for others and would not want someone there for me.

 Showers, usually together but post coital showers can be separate. Hey. I am not as young as I once was and after a particularly vigorous episode, my legs are not always ready to move me out of bed. So after a bit of cuddling, if he wants to go off to shower, I may go with him or stay with the scent of him in the bed.  

Sleep, while I usually like to go to bed together, once I am asleep I do not much care what he is doing as long as it does not interfere with further plans we may have.  

After I awaken in the morning, I might wake him with coffee or a tea bag, but most of the time the escort is usually already awake.  If he is not around, I would expect him to check in once I am awake to see if I am getting out of bed or if he is getting in it,   A rainy Saturday morning doing a NY Times crossword while he amuses himself with another bed bound activity is fun.  Together and separate at the same time.  

The major point here is, from my point of view, the escorts is on the clock for a 72 hour interaction and should be available for all 72 hours, but he does not have to be working actively all 72 hours. The number of hours that he is actively working varies with each escort and with each encounter is going to be different. 

Once again, if you are not flexible about this, you should let him know before the encounter.  That goes for the client and the escort. 

Edited September 18, 2023 by purplekow

[+ azdr0710]

holy Jesus!.....all this hand-wringing!.......

talk with each other before the meeting about personal habits and personal time needs.......sleep habits, gym time, coffee or no coffee, food preferences......

done!

[Guest]

1 hour ago, purplekow said:

... After I awaken in the morning, I might wake him with coffee or a tea bag...

That could be a rude awakening...😄

 

Edited September 18, 2023 by Unicorn

[Archangel]

1 hour ago, azdr0710 said:

holy Jesus!.....all this hand-wringing!.......

talk with each other before the meeting about personal habits and personal time needs.......sleep habits, gym time, coffee or no coffee, food preferences......

done!

No shit.

It’s a discussion. About what falls into the realm of generally the “norm.” Anyone can have expectations and preferences out of the norm, but it’s nice to know if you do.

Settle down. And try to contribute something constructive to the discussion instead of bitching in a metanarrative. There’s so much tertiary cat fighting here…that hijacks a conversation from the main topic. Just like I’m doing now…