Entering business (how to get a fresh start)

[Carter1019]

Hello. I’m a working professional and dancer who is seriously considering entering the escorting business. I am a very sexy, very fit, good looking male (Black). I am very sociable, smart, fair, and open. Based in and from Los Angeles. 

I have toyed with escorting several years ago, but at the time was definitely not ready and begin to work in corporate around the same time, which caused me to no longer pursue it. 

Now, I am looking for somewhere (or someone) to turn to in getting to know the basics and steps of entering the business. Fresh and looking for fresh start. 

Appreciate your help. 

[+ purplekow]

Well this is a good place to start to look for help in this regard.  There are several experienced escorts who post here regularly and you might try contacting the  through the mail.  That you recognize that there is more to escorting than just having a great with a good income to follow, puts you way ahead of others who have tried this.  If you already have a Rentman ad, you should post a link here. That should help get some traction.  

[robberbaron4u]

Take a lesson from Max, the one-time, and, short-lived "Alex Summit" if RentBoy:  Go for the Gold, that is, an exclusive, mutually beneficial "arrangement" with a gentleman of means, in his case the heir to a NYC real estate fortune, who can "properly" appreciate that which you have to offer and can enable you in the realization of your ambitions. He might be a toad in his physical appearance and his manner might leave a lot to be desired, but you will have less "wear and tear" on your body and spirit. Make certain, and this is the caveat of the thing I propose, that you are mindful of your place in the relationship; that the day will come, as with Max, that your benefactor finds you old in body and more of an aggravation than amusement, and, thereby, the titles to the moto vehicle and condo are in your name and you have cash stashed in a safety deposit box. I pray you good fortune in your enterprise.

[robberbaron4u]

1 hour ago, purplekow said:

Well this is a good place to start to look for help in this regard.  There are several experienced escorts who post here regularly and you might try contacting the  through the mail.  That you recognize that there is more to escorting than just having a great with a good income to follow, puts you way ahead of others who have tried this.  If you already have a Rentman ad, you should post a link here. That should help get some traction.  

Practical, prudent advices.

[+ ThroatCummer]

Are you single? 

I ask because this is a job for some, but you can also make it into whatever you want it to be. There is a possibility even to find the love of your life. But I digress. lol

My advice would be not entirely to dismiss any possibilities. You're going to meet all kinds of people -- old, young, fat, thin, married, single, straight, gay, etc. Treat others with respect and be open with communication. Tell them what you want and what you need. Be upfront and straightforward. Approach each person as if they were the only client in the world. Make them feel like they are the center of your universe for the time you are with them. Be fully present in all situations and have a Plan B or an "exit" at all times. 

Sit down and paper out why you want to do this. What do you have to offer that others don't? Are you working towards a goal? Do you have debt to pay down or do you just want some extra cash? Are you going to do this in your home city or travel? What hours? How will you manage this with your professional life? Social media? Facebook profile? Instagram? Twitter? 

What happens if you're recognized? Who knows you? 

These are all the questions you should be asking yourself and you'll need answers to everything -- or at least answers you're comfortable with. 

This industry is absolutely amazing. Leveraged the right way, it is a win-win for both the client and the escort. It can be better than therapy, but more brutal than a root canal. High highs. Low lows. 

Ground yourself first and figure out what you want out of this. Maybe write back a bunch and we can be here to help guide you.  

Disclaimer: I'm a client. My partner is an escort. We met on Rent.men. We're getting married. Another guy, one of my closest friends, is an escort who helped me change my life. So I have an infinite amount of wisdom and experience here from all sides. 

Good luck!

[Jamie21]

6 minutes ago, ThroatCummer said:

My advice would be not entirely to dismiss any possibilities. You're going to meet all kinds of people -- old, young, fat, thin, married, single, straight, gay, etc. Treat others with respect and be open with communication. Tell them what you want and what you need. Be upfront and straightforward. Approach each person as if they were the only client in the world. Make them feel like they are the center of your universe for the time you are with them. Be fully present in all situations and have a Plan B or an "exit" at all times. 

Fabulous advice. Take notice of this. 

[pubic_assistance]

I don't know about the sugar daddy advice above, but cultivating relationships with a few regular (wealthy) gents is a goal worth considering for any escort. A rich sugar daddy may seem like a better find but I question the risk of putting all your eggs in one basket like that.

Edited August 17, 2023 by pubic_assistance

[Cliff]

17 minutes ago, ThroatCummer said:

Are you single? 

I ask because this is a job for some, but you can also make it into whatever you want it to be. There is a possibility even to find the love of your life. But I digress. lol

My advice would be not entirely to dismiss any possibilities. You're going to meet all kinds of people -- old, young, fat, thin, married, single, straight, gay, etc. Treat others with respect and be open with communication. Tell them what you want and what you need. Be upfront and straightforward. Approach each person as if they were the only client in the world. Make them feel like they are the center of your universe for the time you are with them. Be fully present in all situations and have a Plan B or an "exit" at all times. 

Sit down and paper out why you want to do this. What do you have to offer that others don't? Are you working towards a goal? Do you have debt to pay down or do you just want some extra cash? Are you going to do this in your home city or travel? What hours? How will you manage this with your professional life? Social media? Facebook profile? Instagram? Twitter? 

What happens if you're recognized? Who knows you? 

These are all the questions you should be asking yourself and you'll need answers to everything -- or at least answers you're comfortable with. 

This industry is absolutely amazing. Leveraged the right way, it is a win-win for both the client and the escort. It can be better than therapy, but more brutal than a root canal. High highs. Low lows. 

Ground yourself first and figure out what you want out of this. Maybe write back a bunch and we can be here to help guide you.  

Disclaimer: I'm a client. My partner is an escort. We met on Rent.men. We're getting married. Another guy, one of my closest friends, is an escort who helped me change my life. So I have an infinite amount of wisdom and experience here from all sides. 

Good luck!

Perfectly stated. Yes! 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

17 hours ago, Carter1019 said:

Hello. I’m a working professional and dancer who is seriously considering entering the escorting business. I am a very sexy, very fit, good looking male (Black). I am very sociable, smart, fair, and open. Based in and from Los Angeles. 

I have toyed with escorting several years ago, but at the time was definitely not ready and begin to work in corporate around the same time, which caused me to no longer pursue it. 

Now, I am looking for somewhere (or someone) to turn to in getting to know the basics and steps of entering the business. Fresh and looking for fresh start. 

Appreciate your help. 

Well, though you’ll get differing perspectives and success stories: It’s worth noting that the biz right now is in a different place than what I might have been “several years” ago. Being fresh and new isn’t necessarily a ticket to instant success. Even with the optimism, still have to be realistic about the situation.

And moreso: Los Angeles (and even the industry as a whole in many cities) is an extremely competitive market to navigate: there’s lots of guys just like you with the same ambition. Problem is: there’s too many escorts and not enough decent websites like there used to be. Not to mention, the economy is all over the place, with lots of time wasters:

time-waster

noun [ C ]

 

US  

 

 /ˈtaɪm ˌweɪ.stɚ/ UK  

 

 /ˈtaɪm ˌweɪ.stər/

 

Add to word list  someone who causes another person to waste time doing something that does not achieve any good result: 

The ad was answered by a lot of time-wasters who didn't even seriouslywant the job.

 

However, it shouldn’t be a reason to not explore the industry if you desire. I would just caution to keep your perspectives reasonable. Figure a rate you’re comfortable with, ensure clients are willing to screen/give basic info, don’t accept last minute appointments (the ones who are like, wanting to meet “now” because they’re also willing to flake), and be prepared for it to take some time to make everything work. 

Edited August 17, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jarrod_Uncut]

16 hours ago, robberbaron4u said:

Take a lesson from Max, the one-time, and, short-lived "Alex Summit" if RentBoy:  Go for the Gold, that is, an exclusive, mutually beneficial "arrangement" with a gentleman of means, in his case the heir to a NYC real estate fortune, who can "properly" appreciate that which you have to offer and can enable you in the realization of your ambitions. He might be a toad in his physical appearance and his manner might leave a lot to be desired, but you will have less "wear and tear" on your body and spirit. Make certain, and this is the caveat of the thing I propose, that you are mindful of your place in the relationship; that the day will come, as with Max, that your benefactor finds you old in body and more of an aggravation than amusement, and, thereby, the titles to the moto vehicle and condo are in your name and you have cash stashed in a safety deposit box. I pray you good fortune in your enterprise.

Though this may work for some, I would advise against someone new going this route. I had a client similar to how you describe as well, which was good in theory but: the issue comes if they want to “take stuff back”. 
 

Also in a case like that, that isn’t necessarily escorting or sex work. That’s just sugar daddy arrangement. Anybody can do that. Without a marriage, that basically could be anyone. 
 

Now over time, if someone happens to be able to come across someone like that and maybe they are on their way out of the biz: perhaps. Like you say, “short lived” was probably for a reason. 

[robberbaron4u]

1 hour ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Though this may work for some, I would advise against someone new going this route. I had a client similar to how you describe as well, which was good in theory but: the issue comes if they want to “take stuff back”. 
 

Also in a case like that, that isn’t necessarily escorting or sex work. That’s just sugar daddy arrangement. Anybody can do that. Without a marriage, that basically could be anyone. 
 

Now over time, if someone happens to be able to come across someone like that and maybe they are on their way out of the biz: perhaps. Like you say, “short lived” was probably for a reason. 

Physical beauty, personal cgarm, and, indeed, sexual prowess are assets to be exploited for profit. In such a situation, the smart lad does not give until he gets. Hence my admonition to have cash on hand and the titles to the motor vehicle and condo in your name. 

[+ tassojunior]

never worked in the biz but observed several friends who visit me long-term and are in the biz. fwiw a few things:

1. Pricing makes a difference in total income and turn over. 2 friends fairly identical but one is a famous porn star. The porn star hates working, the cleaning, the viagra (not trimix), the time waster ad responses etc so mostly sees regulars and keeps his ad off usually. The other advertises as a "masseur" on RentMasseur and charges half as much base but ends up making about the same total because of more clients and up-sells. Both easily make $10K/mo working about 2 or 3 days a week.  There's a 3rd who's a famous porn star and does incredibly high turnover at normal rates and makes a fortune that he spends on wife, kid, cars and million-dollar house, but that's maybe unusual. Everyone's personalities and situations are different. 

2. Location, location, location. That's not just for real estate. NYC, DC and LA are the top 3 markets by far but there are other ones that come and go. Clients in each of those 3 have completely different personalities. Florida, even in peak is overrated because guys want to go there and work. There are a few clients in Miami but the rest of the state is largely gays on Social Security checks. In fact it's mostly winter tourist trade. OTOH Las Vegas seems to be very good from what I've seen taking friends who work. 

3. With Clearview and other background/security companies and even the feds collecting face pics from Rentmen of prostitutes for the facial recognition that is becoming pervasive I would at least hold a cam so as to cover a part of my face in each pic or something on Rentmen. Not a connection you want for the rest of your life. Maybe link to another site with pics or vids. Twitter allows a lot and even IG allows slightly racey photos. Or title yourself a "masseur". 

4. The 'big whales" may be good for job recommendations and connections but rarely last and usually keep gifts to less permanent-value things. (see Geffen, Dave). 

my 2 cents as an observer.  

Edited August 17, 2023 by tassojunior

[Guest]

I wish you all the best! Based on what you've stated, you'll get a great fresh start. Well written, intelligent, fit and good looking. If it were me, I'd not waste any time thinking about the competition... a bit of competition is good; it gives us incentive to be better and to be the best we can be at whatever endeavor is at hand. 1 piece of unsolicited advice... for the flakes that you will encounter, save them as such... they will reach out again and again ( even years later ) and you'll know not to waste a shred of energy. Over time, you'll reduce the amount of people that are simply wasting your time and you'll have more valuable time and energy for people that deserve it. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

3 hours ago, V_Marco said:

I wish you all the best! Based on what you've stated, you'll get a great fresh start. Well written, intelligent, fit and good looking. If it were me, I'd not waste any time thinking about the competition... a bit of competition is good; it gives us incentive to be better and to be the best we can be at whatever endeavor is at hand. 1 piece of unsolicited advice... for the flakes that you will encounter, save them as such... they will reach out again and again ( even years later ) and you'll know not to waste a shred of energy. Over time, you'll reduce the amount of people that are simply wasting your time and you'll have more valuable time and energy for people that deserve it. 

Good assessment on competition and how it shouldn’t be feared but…it’s just in my experience especially in the biggest cities, with the biggest dicks and lots of chocolate 😆 : it just doesn’t pop as quickly as cities with less competition.
 

Places I’ve spent time in like Miami, Houston, Chicago, Los Angeles…it seems like the money takes too long for me. I be desiring clients within the first day or 2 of arrival. I remember one year I was in L.A., and wasn’t getting anything. Went to Bakersfield and had a booking within a couple days of advertising. 
 

Though I will say: sometimes visiting and living in a city can bring 2 different levels of opportunity. If OP isn’t really reliant on bookings, and can post around for weeks and months and get noticed by a wide audience, it may be easier than someone just visiting for a couple days or a week and not easily noticed among the pages of ads. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Good assessment on competition and how it shouldn’t be feared but…it’s just in my experience especially in the biggest cities, with the biggest dicks and lots of chocolate 😆 : it just doesn’t pop as quickly as cities with less competition.
 

Places I’ve spent time in like Miami, Houston, Chicago, Los Angeles…it seems like the money takes too long for me. I be desiring clients within the first day or 2 of arrival. I remember one year I was in L.A., and wasn’t getting anything. Went to Bakersfield and had a booking within a couple days of advertising. 
 

Though I will say: sometimes visiting and living in a city can bring 2 different levels of opportunity. If OP isn’t really reliant on bookings, and can post around for weeks and months and get noticed by a wide audience, it may be easier than someone just visiting for a couple days or a week and not easily noticed among the pages of ads. 

There's definitely something to be said for taking the road less traveled. I know of a provider who mainly focuses on smaller cities with less "men of the night" or the peripatetic traveling through them and does very well in them. I've always stuck to the big cities I book up quickly in ( possibly to a fault ) I suppose it's ok to stick your neck out as well ( in addition to... ) 😂

[Simon Suraci]

I’m happy to answer any questions. I’m posting a related thread below. It has more commentary for someone considering entering the biz.

This is no easy job being a masseur or sw. Each have positives and negatives. The number one thing is time. Most people don’t realize how much time it takes outside of the time you spend in person with your clients.

That, and a high level of emotional maturity. Looks only get you so far. Sure, that gets you booked, but the connection is what really matters to clients, especially on the sw end of the spectrum. Regular clients need to feel comfortable on an emotional and personal level, as well as being satisfied physically. It’s not that different in principle for massage, although the primary service you’re providing is different.

Massage takes skill to succeed. Even if you’re not formally trained, you can make it, but you need experience and talent to do well. Don’t brush past this. Guys giving unskilled massages are a dime a dozen and eventually exit the industry, usually pretty quickly, or otherwise supplement with fans sites or other work.

You can’t fake it for long, or else you’ll survive on being a sw who merely “advertises” as a masseur. Massage rates are lower. You have to work on more clients for more hours of the day to make the same, and charging sw rates for massage gains you no respect in the industry, as many other forum threads will confirm. For many, massage is more sustainable and less demanding than being a sw. Depends on the person, I guess.

Clients want to know directly what you’re really offering either way, and if you can meet their needs. I suggest picking a lane to start. If you don’t have decent massage skills on day one, I would stick to escorting. You can learn massage skills in time and eventually charge once you’re ready.

A large, saturated market like LA may prove difficult. With some dedication, patience, and good marketing, including good photos, you can build up slowly.

 

[nate_sf]

Lots of great suggestions here. Ultimately the only way to see what it's like is to give it a try.

I still remember my first client, back when I was just a young(er) thing. I had a severe case of imposter syndrome, and wondered whether I could really carry this off. Would someone actually pay me for this? Not only did he say he had a good time, but also said I was not charging enough. That seemed like a good confirmation.

Initially I was advertising erotic massage, but after the first few massages I realized I really liked the sex part better. I know masseurs who say the exact opposite, so some of this is figuring out what you really enjoy. For me, I decided I wanted to offer escort services, and I really enjoy it.

It can take a while to get traction as well. New and fresh will have appeal, but others will wait around until they've seen your listing for a while. So it's important to keep the listing going for a while so that potential clients will be thinking of you over time. Don't be alarmed if things take a bit of time to get going, and as the saying goes, don't quit your day job just yet. On Rentmen you need to get at least the Gold subscription, as nobody will see you in a crowded market if you have a Basic listing. Signing onto a sponsor listing can also really broaden your visibility.

On the other hand, you may be a wild success right out the gate, and then you'd have the issue of how to manage your time and not get burned out. I've known some really busy guys, and being able to manage the volume has been an issue for them. Or if you're keeping your day job and trying to accommodate a busy hiring schedule, that can be stressful too so put some thought into how to balance things so you're in a good space for your clients and for yourself.

This site is a great sounding board so don't be a stranger!

[Jarrod_Uncut]

16 hours ago, nate_sf said:

Lots of great suggestions here. Ultimately the only way to see what it's like is to give it a try.

I still remember my first client, back when I was just a young(er) thing. I had a severe case of imposter syndrome, and wondered whether I could really carry this off. Would someone actually pay me for this? Not only did he say he had a good time, but also said I was not charging enough. That seemed like a good confirmation.

Initially I was advertising erotic massage, but after the first few massages I realized I really liked the sex part better. I know masseurs who say the exact opposite, so some of this is figuring out what you really enjoy. For me, I decided I wanted to offer escort services, and I really enjoy it.

It can take a while to get traction as well. New and fresh will have appeal, but others will wait around until they've seen your listing for a while. So it's important to keep the listing going for a while so that potential clients will be thinking of you over time. Don't be alarmed if things take a bit of time to get going, and as the saying goes, don't quit your day job just yet. On Rentmen you need to get at least the Gold subscription, as nobody will see you in a crowded market if you have a Basic listing. Signing onto a sponsor listing can also really broaden your visibility.

On the other hand, you may be a wild success right out the gate, and then you'd have the issue of how to manage your time and not get burned out. I've known some really busy guys, and being able to manage the volume has been an issue for them. Or if you're keeping your day job and trying to accommodate a busy hiring schedule, that can be stressful too so put some thought into how to balance things so you're in a good space for your clients and for yourself.

This site is a great sounding board so don't be a stranger!

Great point about basic/gold ad. Even though I’ve kept a basic ad on one of the sites for the last couple months, I decided to switch back to Gold. Even though I was still getting booked even with basic, I was finding I wasn’t being displayed properly in some travel locations in RMass…and in some locations I had to keep bumping myself to platinum on RM just to get on the first page. So that was kinda disconcerting. 
 

I mainly do platinum boost to jump start a tour, but I’m not fully convinced it is reliable to use all the time. Except in the more busy markets where there is 2-3 pages of Gold ads. 
 

I just wish RentMen had the same level of “hits/inquiries” as the other site. Especially since it is more expense. Unless guys just say the other site to make it sound “safer” when they contact. I often have people contacting me saying they “seen me on RM.” I usually ask, which one?? Lol. This seems more true in some areas than others. 
 

 

Edited August 20, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut