Mr Number

[+ DynamicUno]

53 minutes ago, Axiom2001 said:

Today is Saturday, September 23, 2023.  Out of curiosity I came to this thread and found out about "Mr. Number."  Prior to my seeing my last escort, I did some research by sending "Chat" questions, etc. to some of that escorts' previous clients.  Three clients responded which allayed my apprehension.  The escort himself responded back to me and stated that since I've been asking about him, he'd done some research about me and would waive the required deposit.  During all of the years that I've engaged the services of escorts here and abroad, I've NEVER been asked for a deposit.

Well, our time was pleasurable and quite positive.

I wonder if I'm on "Mr. Number."

I looked up your entry.  It says, "Mostly harmless."

Edited September 24, 2023 by DynamicUno

[DWnyc]

19 hours ago, Axiom2001 said:

Today is Saturday, September 23, 2023.  Out of curiosity I came to this thread and found out about "Mr. Number."  Prior to my seeing my last escort, I did some research by sending "Chat" questions, etc. to some of that escorts' previous clients.  Three clients responded which allayed my apprehension.  The escort himself responded back to me and stated that since I've been asking about him, he'd done some research about me and would waive the required deposit.  During all of the years that I've engaged the services of escorts here and abroad, I've NEVER been asked for a deposit.

Well, our time was pleasurable and quite positive.

I wonder if I'm on "Mr. Number."

Sounds like his those leaving reviews reported back. 

And given how reviews typically work you may have been asking people quite close to him … like literally being him himself!

I’m not kidding … at least 2 providers have admitted to me they do this. 

And then the providers who offered free or discounted sessions if I leave a positive review … certainly in my interest to go back and report regarding an enquiry, and maybe get another “commission” 😊

[BeefyDude]

https://rentmasseur.com/Dean_n

I tried to call him but he didn't pick up. Yet he immediately texted me.  I asked if we could talk phone real quick (his ad does say he "prefers" texts - but 

I interpret that is other methods are ok.

I prefer to talk on the phone to 1) see if its a good connection and 2) make sure we are on the same page so no disappoints.

I asked why style of massage he did. He said what are you looking for. I HATE that question because they are only saying what you want to say

I asked several times if we could just talk on the phone - easier and quicker.  He wouldn't; respond

So finally I gave up and said well if you won't talk to me then too many red flags and I'm taking my business elsewhere

THEN - and here is where I need masseurs help he said

That i;ve been tagged on some list of people who only ask questions followed by my full name.  So is there some kind of database that masseurs have?

YES i do ask alot of questions, but its to make sure its a good fit. I have been burnt too many times (as many of you have)

 

 

So I tried the MRNumber app and it tags me as fraudulent.  I do take the with a grain of salt. However, it shares no explainaintion etc.  I wonder if this is where  "dean" got my info from?

Are there any masseurs out there that can reach out to me privately to discuss/help!!!

[Simon Suraci]

@BeefyDude personally I have no problem talking on the phone, but I have my reasons for not picking up the phone for every Tom, Dick, and Harry that dials my number. Some of those reasons I’m sure I share with many other masseurs and escorts.

Only after the client requests a call via text or through a messaging system, I will accept a call. Even then, I have to add the client as a contact before the call will ring through because I silence calls from all non-contacts. I see the missed call but my phone does not ring or buzz when they dial, until I add them as a contact. I do this for many reasons:

1) Avoids disturbing my current client. Who wants their masseur’s phone in the room to be buzzing or ringing non-stop?

2) I’m not always alone, available, and in a private place ready to talk.

3) Often clients try getting a free phone sex experience from me under the guise of “just asking questions”.

4) Many questions clients ask are already answered on my ads. Unless the client is asking questions that a phone call addresses better than the ad, I don’t see the point. In fact, it’s a red flag that this client isn’t one I want to see anyway. Some questions are good, it just depends if they want me to basically recite the ad for them or if they actually have substantive questions.

5) Telemarketers and scams are abundant. I have no time or patience for them. People still call my number trying to contact whoever was using the same number many years ago. I ignore those.

6) Mr Number and other sources are a clue. If the number has a lot of negative reports, I’m less inclined to be generous with my time for the client.

As I already acknowledged, a lot of immature providers post unfair comments. There’s nothing wrong with asking questions and if you decide not to book, that’s no reason for the provider to leave a negative comment. Therefore, I take it all with a grain of salt.

When the comments are consistent, specific, and warranted, I pay more attention. For example, consistent pattern of no-shows. Not general, vague things like “time waster”, or “stupid guy” or things like that. For some, a time waster is simply a client asking a few questions and then doesn’t book. I don’t consider that a time waster. I would if they tried to have phone sex with me or sext with me after I tell them my boundaries for unpaid calls.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

16 hours ago, BeefyDude said:

tried to call him but he didn't pick up. Yet he immediately texted me.  I asked if we could talk phone real quick…

Are there any masseurs out there that can reach out to me privately to discuss/help!!!

I stopped answering unexpected calls awhile ago. Part of me wants to go back to doing so, but like @Simon Suraci, most of the answers are going to be in the ads. 
 

I also prefer not to be caught off guard. Unlike other professions that may be “working” between certain hours, our hours may be variable or only when actively taking a client.
 

I always send a text when I see a phone call. I’m willing to talk on the phone, but only after client has provided screening details and has agreed to send a deposit. If they’re just calling me up out the blue, I’m not doing it. Too easy of an opportunity to be disrespected or spend too much time on the phone. It used to be okay awhile ago, but I find the majority of serious clients recognize a text or even email, is usually the best way to break the ice.  
 

Last time I allowed myself to answer a call was in August while I was in Denver. The  guy talked good game for 10-15 minutes. But he wasn’t ready to book that day and gave me the run around the next day, and had some questionable comments on the Number.

I’ll answer a phone call maybe once a year, and then not have to wonder why I don’t take them anymore. However, I don’t mind to phone up someone as I’m arriving or if they need directions getting to where I am. But phone calls: have to be scheduled with an appointment 
 

 

Edited October 15, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Marc in Calif]

11 hours ago, Jarrod_Uncut said:

Last time I allowed myself to answer a call was in August while I was in Denver. The  guy talked good game for 10-15 minutes.

Why in the world would you stay on the phone for that long with a first-time contact? 🙄

[BuffaloKyle]

9 minutes ago, Marc in Calif said:

Why in the world would you stay on the phone for that long with a first-time contact? 🙄

You'd be surprised how fast time can fly by on the phone. I have a new job where I have to sometimes take phone calls from customers and I ended up talking to this one lady for 30 minutes and it didn't seem that long at all.

[Jarrod_Uncut]

1 hour ago, Marc in Calif said:

Why in the world would you stay on the phone for that long with a first-time contact? 🙄

You’re right. I had to fact check that and go back. I called him first because he was asking to meet that night, and I since he was clear across town I had needed to get a response soon. Then he called me like 30 minutes later. I guess it seemed like 10-15 minutes including the texts that were sent. The actual time was more like:

Of course, he didn’t book that night or the next like he said he was: and now he’s blocked and added to the bad list along with the other reports he has too ✌ 

In fact, since I only stayed on the phone for 4 minutes: I think it should be stated 😂

 

1 hour ago, BuffaloKyle said:

You'd be surprised how fast time can fly by on the phone. I have a new job where I have to sometimes take phone calls from customers and I ended up talking to this one lady for 30 minutes and it didn't seem that long at all.

It’s especially tricky when I say, “well okay I have to get going” and then they somehow slip in another question or sentence. 

And who even questions that anyway?? It’s a reason why the show on MTV called catfish is still on air, tons of stories where people have spent months chatting with someone and haven’t met yet. Idk why someone would attempt to “ridicule” someone who has spent more time on the phone than necessary.

 

Edited October 15, 2023 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Guest]

On 10/14/2023 at 6:03 AM, BeefyDude said:

...I tried to call him but he didn't pick up. Yet he immediately texted me...

 

On 10/14/2023 at 9:12 AM, Simon Suraci said:

@BeefyDude personally I have no problem talking on the phone, but I have my reasons for not picking up the phone for every Tom, Dick, and Harry that dials my number...

I agree with @Simon Suraci. I feel it's rude to simply call someone cold without first texting them. In this instance "I'm interested in an in-call on Thursday around 6 PM. Are you available? If so, is this a good time for a quick call?"

I personally never call someone, not even a close friend or relative, without first texting them to ask if this is a good time (much less someone I don't know), for the reasons enumerated by SS. And if one wants to FaceTime, that should also be asked specifically. I prefer to call to ask anything I don't want a permanent record of for perpetuity (and texts are forever). But the calls should be brief--5 minutes, tops. 

[curiouscuriousity]

I downloaded Mr. Number and how can one leave a comment or read comments?

[BeefyDude]

9 hours ago, Unicorn said:

 

I agree with @Simon Suraci. I feel it's rude to simply call someone cold without first texting them. In this instance "I'm interested in an in-call on Thursday around 6 PM. Are you available? If so, is this a good time for a quick call?"

I personally never call someone, not even a close friend or relative, without first texting them to ask if this is a good time (much less someone I don't know), for the reasons enumerated by SS. And if one wants to FaceTime, that should also be asked specifically. I prefer to call to ask anything I don't want a permanent record of for perpetuity (and texts are forever). But the calls should be brief--5 minutes, tops. 

Thats your opinion which you are entitled to.  Me, I like to call so I can ask questions and see if there is going to be a connection. I also like to get everything on the table so no surprises.  If it passes that I book 

[Simon Suraci]

8 hours ago, BeefyDude said:

Thats your opinion which you are entitled to.  Me, I like to call so I can ask questions and see if there is going to be a connection. I also like to get everything on the table so no surprises.  If it passes that I book 

All well and good, and I agree calls are great for seeing if there’s going to be a good connection, but if your man isn’t expecting your call and doesn’t pick up from an unknown contact on the first ring, would you pass him by?

Let’s say he’s at, say, the gym where he can’t openly talk about explicit sexual details and rates for his services. Would you blame him for not picking up at that moment?

More likely he’s with another client when you dial and he can’t pause a session to take a random call. Can you imagine if he did that with you during your session? I would be pissed.

Same goes for when he is having a face to face conversation with someone. Maybe it’s late and he’s already asleep, or at his doctor’s office, or driving, or anywhere else that it would be inappropriate, unsafe, or rude to answer a call.

What expectations do you have of a provider to answer your call? Anytime, anywhere, without notice? Or would you be ok asking ahead to schedule a time to call? Would an initial contact by email/messenger/texting be a total dealbreaker for you?

[BeefyDude]

1 hour ago, Simon Suraci said:

All well and good, and I agree calls are great for seeing if there’s going to be a good connection, but if your man isn’t expecting your call and doesn’t pick up from an unknown contact on the first ring, would you pass him by?

Let’s say he’s at, say, the gym where he can’t openly talk about explicit sexual details and rates for his services. Would you blame him for not picking up at that moment?

More likely he’s with another client when you dial and he can’t pause a session to take a random call. Can you imagine if he did that with you during your session? I would be pissed.

Same goes for when he is having a face to face conversation with someone. Maybe it’s late and he’s already asleep, or at his doctor’s office, or driving, or anywhere else that it would be inappropriate, unsafe, or rude to answer a call.

What expectations do you have of a provider to answer your call? Anytime, anywhere, without notice? Or would you be ok asking ahead to schedule a time to call? Would an initial contact by email/messenger/texting be a total dealbreaker for you?

Agree, but perhaps I mis-spoke or misunderstood something.   For me, I DO NOT give up if they don't answer a call - for the reasons you state.  I Prefer a call. If I get VM, i typically hang up and send a text so t hey know it was me  Also I NEVER said anything about any hour.  I always call during normal day hours. I know I dont like calls at night and thus don't do on to others. Another factor is the availability they put on their ad. If they say they take appts up till midnight, then I feel an 8pm call or text is reasonable.

If an ad says text only then no call.  But otherwise they are a business and put their number out there. They should expect a call from some folks. That is NOT an unreasonable request.  Same thing to call a bakery to ask them questions. You are unknown to them, but you want to ask about a product or cake they provide.  They are a business too so similar rules should ap

Again, FOR ME, I respect others.  I don't call late. I don't give up on them if they dont pick up a call first time etc.   Sorry that some out there abuse that. But not all of us are like that

[Simon Suraci]

Thanks @BeefyDude. I agree with your approach on time of day. If you’re leaving some sort of written notice that you’re trying to get in contact for a phone call, that helps A LOT.

If you give times you are available, or confirm it’s ok to call back any time, that helps too. I would call back whenever I’m free in that case. I would apply the same courtesy you mentioned of calling at times that make sense i.e. not late in the late evening, early in the morning, or in the middle of the night.

Keep in mind I also try to respect clients’ privacy. Each client has different privacy needs. You might be fine with a call back whenever I free up. Some clients do not want to receive unexpected calls for various reasons, so if it’s unclear or they request so, I would text them to confirm when they are free for a call. The same applies if the client reached out on RentMen Messenger or RentMasseur Messenger, email, etc. instead of text.

If I see a single missed call - or even repeated missed calls, for that matter - from a non-contact without any voicemail, I would ignore or block the number assuming it’s spam, by default. This happens to me all the time and I have no way to know the difference. A voicemail or text message tells me that you’re a client asking for a call back, and I gladly do call back in that case.

[MuscleDaddyRWC]

Seems to me the new convention  (in general, not specifically massage/escorting) is to text first asking about availability to jump on a phone call. 

[marylander1940]

On 10/15/2023 at 9:47 AM, Marc in Calif said:

Why in the world would you stay on the phone for that long with a first-time contact? 🙄

Exactly!

On 10/15/2023 at 9:57 AM, BuffaloKyle said:

You'd be surprised how fast time can fly by on the phone. I have a new job where I have to sometimes take phone calls from customers and I ended up talking to this one lady for 30 minutes and it didn't seem that long at all.

Where are you?

When are you looking to getting together?

What do you get into? 

When will you check in at your hotel and when do you want me to go to see you?

etc.

In less than 3 minutes as long as the escorts gets a hold on the conversation a lot could be arranged. 

If someone is on the phone for that long it's phone sex or just a time water. 

[JTtorretto]

On 10/19/2023 at 6:13 AM, BeefyDude said:

Thats your opinion which you are entitled to.  Me, I like to call so I can ask questions and see if there is going to be a connection. I also like to get everything on the table so no surprises.  If it passes that I book 

"Everything on the table so no surprises"  I find ironic since going the phone call route ends up, often, in misinterpretation of what was decided since nothing is in writing. Thats issue #1 with phone calls. 
 

#2 phone call issue:   95% of the time anyone demanding the first interaction being a several minute phone call = is a deadbeat time waster jerking off [free of charge] to the sound of our voice while they get to describe their perverted fantasy, with them explaining they just "need to be sure" that we can "provide that service".  [the "Official Escort Handbook" states as fact that one should never engage with any "potential" new client for an extended period of time on the phone for this second reason]. 

 

 

[DWnyc]

On 10/21/2023 at 12:11 PM, MuscleDaddyRWC said:

Seems to me the new convention  (in general, not specifically massage/escorting) is to text first asking about availability to jump on a phone call. 

This is definitely a new thing for those of us who were adults before say 2010 but the rules have evolved. 

I still remember the rotary phone and my mother eavesdropping on my calls from not too far away.