Masseurs vs escorts

[muscmtl]

Tons of 411 on whether a certain masseur btms or tops??? How does hiring a masseur for sex work? It's already hard enough to get escorts to do what you want, why aggravate the process with guys who considers themselves masseurs and not escort.

Looking on rentmasseur for sex instead of rentmen just doesn't compute for me

Steve

[56harrisond]

 

[Jamie21]

33 minutes ago, muscmtl said:

Tons of 411 on whether a certain masseur btms or tops??? How does hiring a masseur for sex work? It's already hard enough to get escorts to do what you want, why aggravate the process with guys who considers themselves masseurs and not escort.

Looking on rentmasseur for sex instead of rentmen just doesn't compute for me

Steve

These things become blurred. I have worked as both escort and masseur and it’s very difficult to say definitively what is or isn’t included in each type of session. I advertise on RentMasseur and other massage themed sites and certainly all my sessions involve massage (preferably done on a table etc) so I describe myself as a masseur. It’s my intention is to give a really great sensual massage (definitely not a rub and tug) but clients do ask about the inclusion of sex in the massage (either as top or bottom) and it does happen.

I know escorts who will set boundaries in their escort session, and I have done the same. Every person working as a sex worker will have things that they are comfortable to include and things they aren’t. The important thing is for clients to ask, and providers to answer clearly so that everyone has the right expectations. 

[pubic_assistance]

5 hours ago, muscmtl said:

Looking on rentmasseur for sex instead of rentmen just doesn't compute for me

I agree.

The conversation about whether a masseur bottoms is rather out of place when you're hiring as a new client

I think the misconception comes from the lines getting blurred with LONG TIME CUSTOMERS.

Since many masseurs know any man likes his happy ending....there are many practitioners who will turn up the heat for a good customer. I've had more than one regular who, after several months of weekly appointments went from a hand job - to oral service - to riding my cock to get me off.

So it does happen .. but no one should be expecting this without an actual relationship forming over time.

[IamAdamRose]

Escort here…. I think some do both but im strict on not doing massages, just not my thing & i’m not licensed… i’m more the classic call girl just handle business & be done 🤷🏻‍♀️ but alot of the guys here where i’m based are also on rentmasseur

[DWnyc]

I think there’s a perception among many that a masseur gets you an abridged escort experience (even if for the same session time) for less $.

some masseurs volunteer themselves as top or bottom … unless they mean simulation I don’t see what that is other than saying they’re open to … everything. I’ve always assumed that means — it’s on offer but you have to discuss with me how ($) that may work 

[+ The Big Guy]

I usually book for massage but have found that when things escalate to full service, the rate also escalates to the full rate.  No problem but I don’t think it results in lower fees.   I’ve also found that those that advertise on both sites don’t recall whether you booked for  a massage or for escort.  I really like the session to be about half massage and half fun. 

[jeezifonly]

There are times when a really great massage that ends happily for me is exactly what I want. If the ending needs to include more participation from the provider, I hire an escort with massage skills/experience, which are highlighted in a masseur ad and may not be in the escort profile. I’m upfront about what I’m looking for, and I almost always test a new provider with massage only. 

[Simon Suraci]

If you’re looking for full service to occur in the same hour l but want half of that hour to be a massage or a massage “scene”, you should expect to pay the same hourly rate as hiring an escort. Equitable rates for equivalent services. If you want an actual full body massage that lasts an hour or more, expect to pay for that service on its own which may come to around half the rate of an hour of full service PLUS the full service rate, which may last up to an hour beyond when your massage time ends. Discuss with your provider of course. If you’re getting a deal, good for you, but I would expect to pay something along these lines:

 

Example two hour session:

1 hr massage = $150

1 hr full service = $300

Total = $450

 

Example one hour session:

1/2 hr “massage” = included

1/2 hr full service = $300

Total = $300

[StarQualityLuke]

29 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said:

If you’re looking for full service to occur in the same hour l but want half of that hour to be a massage or a massage “scene”, you should expect to pay the same hourly rate as hiring an escort. Equitable rates for equivalent services. If you want an actual full body massage that lasts an hour or more, expect to pay for that service on its own which may come to around half the rate of an hour of full service PLUS the full service rate, which may last up to an hour beyond when your massage time ends. Discuss with your provider of course. If you’re getting a deal, good for you, but I would expect to pay something along these lines:

 

Example two hour session:

1 hr massage = $150

1 hr full service = $300

Total = $450

 

Example one hour session:

1/2 hr “massage” = included

1/2 hr full service = $300

Total = $300

Simon.. 

Does booksy really work for you? 

 

[Simon Suraci]

5 minutes ago, StarQualityLuke said:

Does booksy really work for you? 

Yes, Booksy works very well for my massage clients. I include service descriptions, rates, automated self booking, schedule availability, and clients post unsolicited reviews directly to the site. You can even pay remotely online before or after your visit if you like. Everything is integrated. Even my Stripe card reader is integrated. I currently don’t leverage all of the marketing features but that has a lot of potential too. Overall, Booksy keeps me much more organized and saves me time, and saves clients time.

A percentage of my clients really enjoy the streamlined service and use it enthusiastically. No texting or waiting for responses. All the info is there and it’s instant and convenient. Heck, a client can book me in the middle of the night while I’m asleep and I’m ready for them them the next morning.

Most clients insist on the old school method of texting me 20 questions and then asking for an appointment, bla, bla, bla. More back and forth about availability….Then text again asking to reschedule, or cancel…I do it all for them on Booksy in much the same way they could do it themselves if they wanted to. All the info is there, so if they want to reschedule for another available time, they can just look and do it in a couple clicks.

The savvy guys (and women) visit my site and find it much more convenient. They only text for very specific questions or to confirm something, or just to say hi. It’s really easy to use and makes communication higher quality because we’re only talking about things they actually need my attention to answer. Cuts down on a lot of unnecessary back and forth for those savvy clients.

I don’t advertise every service explicitly, so clients still need to text me for that, but I still use the system to organize my schedule availability and contacts. I can even see under each client what they booked in the past and what they have booked in the future so that I can recommend services when they are inquiring again. 

If you want, we can start another thread on Booksy and other booking services. It’s a whole other topic worthy of discussion.

[marylander1940]

On 5/13/2023 at 8:01 AM, muscmtl said:

Tons of 411 on whether a certain masseur btms or tops??? How does hiring a masseur for sex work? It's already hard enough to get escorts to do what you want, why aggravate the process with guys who considers themselves masseurs and not escort.

Looking on rentmasseur for sex instead of rentmen just doesn't compute for me

Steve

Unfortunately some might hire a masseur expecting extras for the same rate, and I'm not referring to the happy ending... 

I know many escort that when asked for a massage reply: "I'm an escort, not a masseur". 

Edited May 20, 2023 by marylander1940

[StarQualityLuke]

1 hour ago, Simon Suraci said:

Yes, Booksy works very well for my massage clients. I include service descriptions, rates, automated self booking, schedule availability, and clients post unsolicited reviews directly to the site. You can even pay remotely online before or after your visit if you like. Everything is integrated. Even my Stripe card reader is integrated. I currently don’t leverage all of the marketing features but that has a lot of potential too. Overall, Booksy keeps me much more organized and saves me time, and saves clients time.

A percentage of my clients really enjoy the streamlined service and use it enthusiastically. No texting or waiting for responses. All the info is there and it’s instant and convenient. Heck, a client can book me in the middle of the night while I’m asleep and I’m ready for them them the next morning.

Most clients insist on the old school method of texting me 20 questions and then asking for an appointment, bla, bla, bla. More back and forth about availability….Then text again asking to reschedule, or cancel…I do it all for them on Booksy in much the same way they could do it themselves if they wanted to. All the info is there, so if they want to reschedule for another available time, they can just look and do it in a couple clicks.

The savvy guys (and women) visit my site and find it much more convenient. They only text for very specific questions or to confirm something, or just to say hi. It’s really easy to use and makes communication higher quality because we’re only talking about things they actually need my attention to answer. Cuts down on a lot of unnecessary back and forth for those savvy clients.

I don’t advertise every service explicitly, so clients still need to text me for that, but I still use the system to organize my schedule availability and contacts. I can even see under each client what they booked in the past and what they have booked in the future so that I can recommend services when they are inquiring again. 

If you want, we can start another thread on Booksy and other booking services. It’s a whole other topic worthy of discussion.

Sure... Booksy is only in certain cities I see... 

[Simon Suraci]

1 hour ago, StarQualityLuke said:

Sure... Booksy is only in certain cities I see... 

Various service providers from barbers, to hairstylists, to massage therapists and more use Booksy and are located all over. You might not find a large selection of service providers to search from in a given smaller city, but your massage guy (or other) can use Booksy anywhere.

I even use it when I’m traveling, although my current imperfect solution is to block off my schedule over certain days so that my Dallas clients don’t book me when I’m in Oklahoma City, Houston, Austin, or elsewhere. Haven’t figured out a better way to do this yet since the service is primarily geared toward single location brick and mortar setups.

[Michael PhD]

On 5/17/2023 at 1:10 PM, The Big Guy said:

I usually book for massage but have found that when things escalate to full service, the rate also escalates to the full rate.  No problem but I don’t think it results in lower fees.   I’ve also found that those that advertise on both sites don’t recall whether you booked for  a massage or for escort.  I really like the session to be about half massage and half fun. 

I’ve had the exact opposite. Can count on one hand the number of escorts if met. 
 

I love a good deep tissue massage. That’s my focus. If both of us want more at the end win win. If not I’m ok with that. But often I’ve had full service and if it’s something we both want so it can extend past the allotted massage time. 

[KennF]

On 5/20/2023 at 2:05 PM, marylander1940 said:

Unfortunately some might hire a masseur expecting extras for the same rate, and I'm not referring to the happy ending... 

I know many escort that when asked for a massage reply: "I'm an escort, not a masseur". 

I find it easier to ask an escort if they have massage training if I want a mixed appointment.  Sets some expectations if what I want is more than a massage. 

[NativeNewYorkGuy]

On 5/20/2023 at 12:21 PM, Simon Suraci said:

If you’re looking for full service to occur in the same hour l but want half of that hour to be a massage or a massage “scene”, you should expect to pay the same hourly rate as hiring an escort. Equitable rates for equivalent services. If you want an actual full body massage that lasts an hour or more, expect to pay for that service on its own which may come to around half the rate of an hour of full service PLUS the full service rate, which may last up to an hour beyond when your massage time ends. Discuss with your provider of course. If you’re getting a deal, good for you, but I would expect to pay something along these lines:

 

Example two hour session:

1 hr massage = $150

1 hr full service = $300

Total = $450

 

Example one hour session:

1/2 hr “massage” = included

1/2 hr full service = $300

Total = $300

But then what would be the rate for an hour of massage and a half hour of full service?

[Simon Suraci]

23 minutes ago, NativeNewYorkGuy said:

But then what would be the rate for an hour of massage and a half hour of full service?

Masseur’s 1-hr massage rate

+ masseur’s 1-hr full service rate

 

Example:

60 min massage: $150

0-60 min full service: $300

Total: $450

 

A general rule of thumb: 3x the masseur’s 60 min massage rate.
 

To do everything in one hour, split up however which way, figure 2x the masseur’s 60 min massage rate.

Every provider will vary, of course.

[CuriousByNature]

1 hour ago, Simon Suraci said:

Masseur’s 1-hr massage rate

+ masseur’s 1-hr full service rate

 

Example:

60 min massage: $150

0-60 min full service: $300

Total: $450

 

A general rule of thumb: 3x the masseur’s 60 min massage rate.
 

To do everything in one hour, split up however which way, figure 2x the masseur’s 60 min massage rate.

Every provider will vary, of course.

So much math!  LOL

[Michael PhD]

11 minutes ago, CuriousByNature said:

So much math!  LOL

Easier to ask. Doubt this math applies to many. 

[Simon Suraci]

Or…just ask! Lol

At least this gives you a reasonable starting point so you’re not expecting your provider to give you free services, or to underprice their services. Massages have value. Full service has value. It’s most equitable to pay time and rate for both.

[jeezifonly]

4 hours ago, NativeNewYorkGuy said:

But then what would be the rate for an hour of massage and a half hour of full service?

Ask the provider, but if the “half hour” includes any “fullness” you’ll be paying escort rate for 90m. Not an a-la-carte situation Don’t nickel and dime these guys, please.

BTW, good body work requires a significant amount of physical energy and mental focus from the provider. 

[NativeNewYorkGuy]

2 hours ago, jeezifonly said:

Ask the provider, but if the “half hour” includes any “fullness” you’ll be paying escort rate for 90m. Not an a-la-carte situation Don’t nickel and dime these guys, please.

BTW, good body work requires a significant amount of physical energy and mental focus from the provider. 

I would never. Nickel-and-diming is anathema to me.