NYWhore in NYC

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On 4/1/2023 at 6:42 PM, former lurker said:

K is ketamine, a horse tranquilizer.  

FWIW, ketamine has veterinary uses, but is also used as an anaesthetic for human children and adult trauma patients. 

Not sure if the "k = animal tranquilizer" started as a positive or negative pitch in the community, but it's misleading.  (Or, call "aspirin" a "canine anti-inflammatory" because it can be used on dogs.)

[nycdaveed]

Sharing some insights below to elucidate a couple of blindspots in our discussion so far:

1. There is a spectrum of attitudes and practices around drug-use among providers. 
The PNP designation can refer to personal use, but it can also refer to the acceptability of client use or availability of PNP drugs. The concordance of these three isn't 1:1:1 -- it can be a mixed bag out there (Ex: There are escorts who do not use but are ok with clients using.)

Regardless, among gay male escorts, many are users -- either in their personal or work lives. This should not come as a surprise -- while there are some out there with endogenously high sex drives (in frequency and quantity of sex daily and nocturally-shifted circadian rhythms, it is just as easily replicated and probably more common as a secondary consequence of stimulant abuse).

Of the ones who use, some are more functional. And -- surprise -- you have likely had sessions with them while they were high, unbeknownst to you and what your charicature of drug use may be. And others are less functional -- these are easy to spot -- they are the canonical disorganized, emotionally labile, terminally tardy, and physically unpredictable horror stories we read about. 

2. PNP advertisements aren't the full story.
Some choose to advertise -- the benefit is that they net PNP clients, who often prefer longer sessions and are hence more lucrative. Or they get clients who are ok if they use or are high in-session. The risk is that they lose clients who adversely perceive any proximity of a provider to PNP.

At the same time, others refrain from advertising, helpful at retaining potential straight-edge clients. But the omission does not mean a provider does not partake. PNP may still be on-the-menu or even part of their daily use -- just not advertised. There are also other factors that might influence the decision to advertise or not -- for example, some may not want those in their social/personal lives to know of their use, and care less about the perception of potential clients. 

3. Among the providers who advertise as drug-free, not all actually are.
Some personally PNP, but do not like it for work. And some use the designation to justify tacking on a surcharge, if asked. I'll analogize this to the issue of condoms -- some "safe only" providers do bareback -- for more. 

All of this is to say -- please ask yourselves what is important to you? 
Is it a drug-free environment? A meth-free environment? Someone who doesn't have sex with drug-users? Someone who can pass as put-together? Someone not actively on drugs? Someone who never uses drugs? 

Then take the lead and express your preference to your potential provider and if its a dealbreaker.
The exchange is quick and easy, more explicit about one's true preferences, relies on fewer assumptions on language that can be vague/omitted, and avoids the need to ask providers what their practices are -- which can be perceived as judgmental and might not even be accurate.

Chemical dependence is an issue that weighs heavily in our community, and the little things we can do to mitigate its stigma will make it easier for those -- including many of the providers we patronize -- seek help. 

TLDR: Our patronage of this industry places us at most 1 degree away from those who may be struggling with chemical dependence. We can be better stewards of the industry and supportive of the providers we see by (1) taking the lead and expressing what our preferences are around drug use to potential providers and (2) refraining from the use of language that reinforces stigma, which might incentivize some to be dishonest in their disclosures and adds to the obstacle of seeking help if needed. 

[LookingAround]

12 hours ago, nycdaveed said:

Sharing some insights below to elucidate a couple of blindspots in our discussion so far:

1. There is a spectrum of attitudes and practices around drug-use among providers. 
The PNP designation can refer to personal use, but it can also refer to the acceptability of client use or availability of PNP drugs. The concordance of these three isn't 1:1:1 -- it can be a mixed bag out there (Ex: There are escorts who do not use but are ok with clients using.)

Regardless, among gay male escorts, many are users -- either in their personal or work lives. This should not come as a surprise -- while there are some out there with endogenously high sex drives (in frequency and quantity of sex daily and nocturally-shifted circadian rhythms, it is just as easily replicated and probably more common as a secondary consequence of stimulant abuse).

Of the ones who use, some are more functional. And -- surprise -- you have likely had sessions with them while they were high, unbeknownst to you and what your charicature of drug use may be. And others are less functional -- these are easy to spot -- they are the canonical disorganized, emotionally labile, terminally tardy, and physically unpredictable horror stories we read about. 

2. PNP advertisements aren't the full story.
Some choose to advertise -- the benefit is that they net PNP clients, who often prefer longer sessions and are hence more lucrative. Or they get clients who are ok if they use or are high in-session. The risk is that they lose clients who adversely perceive any proximity of a provider to PNP.

At the same time, others refrain from advertising, helpful at retaining potential straight-edge clients. But the omission does not mean a provider does not partake. PNP may still be on-the-menu or even part of their daily use -- just not advertised. There are also other factors that might influence the decision to advertise or not -- for example, some may not want those in their social/personal lives to know of their use, and care less about the perception of potential clients. 

3. Among the providers who advertise as drug-free, not all actually are.
Some personally PNP, but do not like it for work. And some use the designation to justify tacking on a surcharge, if asked. I'll analogize this to the issue of condoms -- some "safe only" providers do bareback -- for more. 

All of this is to say -- please ask yourselves what is important to you? 
Is it a drug-free environment? A meth-free environment? Someone who doesn't have sex with drug-users? Someone who can pass as put-together? Someone not actively on drugs? Someone who never uses drugs? 

Then take the lead and express your preference to your potential provider and if its a dealbreaker.
The exchange is quick and easy, more explicit about one's true preferences, relies on fewer assumptions on language that can be vague/omitted, and avoids the need to ask providers what their practices are -- which can be perceived as judgmental and might not even be accurate.

Chemical dependence is an issue that weighs heavily in our community, and the little things we can do to mitigate its stigma will make it easier for those -- including many of the providers we patronize -- seek help. 

TLDR: Our patronage of this industry places us at most 1 degree away from those who may be struggling with chemical dependence. We can be better stewards of the industry and supportive of the providers we see by (1) taking the lead and expressing what our preferences are around drug use to potential providers and (2) refraining from the use of language that reinforces stigma, which might incentivize some to be dishonest in their disclosures and adds to the obstacle of seeking help if needed. 

So informed and on the mark. Marketing weighs heavily in how escorts advertise. Of course. 

[pubic_assistance]

13 hours ago, nycdaveed said:

ask yourselves what is important to you? 

For me telling me that he's absuing drugs is the same "ick" factor as somebody who tells me he's HIV positive.

Both subliminal turn offs.

Technically I'm not behaving differently during a sexual encounter with a stranger because in both situations I really don't know what goes on in anyone's personal life.

But putting these facts "in the window" flips a switch in my brain telling me it's *emotional-quicksand* and I should avoid.  Illogical perhaps but strongly influential in my decision making.

[+ keroscenefire]

What's interesting to me is that nobody seems to have met with this provider on here and he has no reviews on RM either. 🤷‍♂️

[pubic_assistance]

5 hours ago, keroscenefire said:

What's interesting to me is that nobody seems to have met with this provider on here and he has no reviews on RM either. 🤷‍♂️

Speaks to the common sense ( and good taste ) of many of the gentlemen here.

[Walt]

5 hours ago, keroscenefire said:

What's interesting to me is that nobody seems to have met with this provider on here and he has no reviews on RM either. 🤷‍♂️

LOL.  Many of the users here on Company of Men would be extraordinary Talmudic scholars in another lifetime, who in the absence of any actual evidence tease out lengthy and detailed facts and "meaning" from a few words here and there or from their own  interpretations of and commentary on the previous breadcrumbs left by other scholars immersed in the obsessive study of Company of Men.

[BuffaloKyle]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

Speaks to the common sense ( and good taste ) of many of the gentlemen here.

I used to know a guy who slept with or would try to with literally every gay man in Buffalo. I eventually let him give me a blowjob and I told my other friends who knew him about it and they gave me shit for it because he was such a slut but I told them I figured with all the cocks he sucks that he'd be pretty good at it and he was!!! 😅

[pubic_assistance]

1 hour ago, BuffaloKyle said:

figured with all the cocks he sucks that he'd be pretty good at it and he was!!! 😅

I don't mind a slutty whore..but a meth-head is trouble.

[+ BOZO T CLOWN]

On 5/28/2023 at 10:11 PM, Colton said:

Did anyone ever meet him?

Good question.
Anyone?

BoZo

 

[MCR]

I am pretty sure he isn't real

[BuffaloKyle]

2 hours ago, MCR said:

I am pretty sure he isn't real

I was beginning to think that too. No reviews, pics are not verified. He did just recently upload two videos but I'm not a premium member so can't view them.

[NYWhore_Escort]

Hi everyone. This is the owner of the account. I have to apologize, I unfortunately made this account when I wasn't ready to dedicate myself to escorting. I can say for certain that I'm ready to begin and have fun with you all. Just to be clear, I do pnp, so be cool with that or don't hit me up. Thank you for understanding!

[edinbrooklyn]

On 3/28/2023 at 2:19 PM, nycman said:

I’m so green. Never been around anything much harder than weed or booze. Never had an interest. But I’ve seen lives wrecked by alcohol. Hard to get your head around.