Are deposit requests becoming a regular thing?

[LATraver1263]

https://rent.men/DiegoMenendez
 

got scammed by this guy in San Antonio Saturday, he facetimed & asked for 115 Deposit, i sent him the hotel address & all of a sudden tried to play the whole “me no speak good english” act & never showed… kept claiming he was in the hotel lobby when HE NEVER WAS

[coriolis888]

5 hours ago, NYXboy said:

 

9 times in a row and you still kept doing it and only now suddenly stopped? Sure Jan. 

He is an eternal optimist.  He is hoping that the greed in many providers will not continue, but it does continue. 

Hence, avoid deposits wherever possible.  

[+ mds1]

29 minutes ago, Simon Suraci said:

 I avoid requiring deposits, but for some, it’s one of the few ways to meaningfully weed through a sea of flaky, disrespectful people.

@Simon Suraci, do you have any thoughts on how much these providers who do ask for a deposit should or would be asking? Would most feel like a small amount would be adequate to prove seriousness, or do they feel like at least half or more is better for a deposit? 

[coriolis888]

On 3/6/2023 at 5:06 AM, NYXboy said:

If it hurt their business they wouldn't be doing it more, evidently, it is, in fact, having the opposite effect for it to be becoming a more regular occurrence. You obviously look down on providers and think they are SO beneath you, yet you desire them too so this must be why you are so bitter.

I can't see what the problem is with a small deposit - every time I use opentable to book a table at a restaurant, it takes my cc details and I am charged if I do not show,

When I book a hotel- if I don't show, I am charged (I recently even asked a hotel if I could change dates as a family emergency came up and was no longer able to go - they refused even with a week's notice) 

My hairdresser charges me a cancelation fee if I do not show up. 

When you buy tickets to a broadway show - you are still charged if you don't show up - because you have paid in advance! 

I actually think it makes sense and has good business acumen considering how much they are put out - people have mentioned how bottoms must do prep work - to just *hope* that the person they are dealing with is genuine and have respect for their time. But more than that, I think respect is the keyword here - something your comment makes me think you lack for the profession and don't consider it 'work',  when in fact you probably are really HARD work. 

I'm not saying give a large deposit to someone who has just created a profile, no reviews, no mention here on this forum, and wanting thousands of dollars - use your brain.  If you are going to spend $300-$400 on the booking why would you have an issue with a $50 deposit? You wouldn't. You wouldn't unless you were not serious - or you want to be able to flake out and don't respect or value their time.  

 

 

How misguided!

[NativeNewYorkGuy]

I will never send a deposit or pay in advance. It is the oldest scam in the books. I don't care how hot the pictures are--or even that I may miss out on a great session. I will never ever ever ever ever ever pay in advance.

[+ DrownedBoy]

18 hours ago, LATraver1263 said:

https://rent.men/DiegoMenendez
 

got scammed by this guy in San Antonio Saturday, he facetimed & asked for 115 Deposit, i sent him the hotel address & all of a sudden tried to play the whole “me no speak good english” act & never showed… kept claiming he was in the hotel lobby when HE NEVER WAS

Yeah, I hate when they do that. I had an ESL that disappeared between his arrival and my condo for 30 minutes, claimed he forgot to charge his phone so he couldn't text me, and then said I owed him either $50 more or 30 minutes less.

He regretted it.

[coriolis888]

On 2/26/2023 at 3:54 PM, nycman said:

Only from the scammers. 

How do you know in advance if the provider is a scammer?

Many providers  are so convincing that they could almost charm a bird out of a tree.  

It is after you have advanced them your money do you find that you were a fool believing the provider was honest and believable.  

Edited March 8, 2023 by coriolis888

[+ nycman]

29 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

How do you know in advance if the provider is a scammer?

It’s simple.

If they ask for a deposit…..they’re a scammer.

[KeepItReal]

On 3/6/2023 at 5:33 AM, FrankR said:

I can tell you from experience (which shapes my opinion) that 9 times out of 10 paying a deposit is a bad idea.

 

On 3/6/2023 at 3:56 PM, NYXboy said:

 

9 times in a row and you still kept doing it and only now suddenly stopped? Sure Jan. 

Ahem. It's an expression. 

https://www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/nine-times-out-of-ten

If you send a deposit you will never see your doh again! 🤭

 

Edited March 8, 2023 by KeepItReal

[guest]

5 hours ago, nycman said:

It’s simple.

If they ask for a deposit…..they’re a scammer.

this forum has really opened my eyes to what providers have to deal with. I feel sorry for you. 

[Lazarus]

Unfortunately constantly hiring the same providers gets boring real quick when there is so much out there, ^^^

[+ jessmapex]

A simple solution to this issue is to bring  hustler bars back in some upgraded non-seedy form. Meet in person , pick who you like, negotiate, and take home.

No data trail for cops. No deposits. No flaking.

[Beancounter]

1 hour ago, MikeSinz said:

https://rentmen.eu/MikeSinz

I've heard from many of my clientele that they have been getting robbed and taken advantage of. I would never ask for a deposit you lose a lot of money that way. Most of these guys are just trying to get $20 30 deposit. Times that by 10 to 15 clients A-day you made a pretty good Day.

I’ll never forget the time you stood me up in Dallas @MikeSinz  Thank god you never asked me for a deposit.  

[+ nycman]

3 hours ago, jessmapex said:

A simple solution to this issue is to bring  hustler bars back in some upgraded non-seedy form. Meet in person , pick who you like, negotiate, and take home.

No data trail for cops. No deposits. No flaking.

Honestly, that didn’t solve all the problems either.
In the bar, they’d promise the world.
As soon as you were in the room, they wanted $$ upfront. 
As soon as you paid, you’d be out the door in under 5 min with blue-balls.
They didn’t call them Hustler bars for nothing. 

Again, not all but some. You had to ask around the bar. 
Like here, most other clients were eager to help you avoid the scammers.

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

2 hours ago, Beancounter said:

I’ll never forget the time you stood me up in Dallas @MikeSinz  Thank god you never asked me for a deposit.  

[+ nycman]

2 hours ago, Beancounter said:

I’ll never forget the time you stood me up in Dallas @MikeSinz  Thank god you never asked me for a deposit.  

So does that count as not getting fucked….twice?

grin

[guest]

13 hours ago, MikeSinz said:

https://rentmen.eu/MikeSinz

I've heard from many of my clientele that they have been getting robbed and taken advantage of. I would never ask for a deposit you lose a lot of money that way. Most of these guys are just trying to get $20 30 deposit. Times that by 10 to 15 clients A-day you made a pretty good Day.

LOL if you want people to think you are getting 10 - 15 clients a day, and 10-15 that are happy to send a $20 deposit to lock the meeting down. 

Why would a provider take a $20 when they could see the client and get $300.   Make it make sense.  It doesn't make sense. And as good old judge judy says - if it doesn't make sense, its not true. 

Edited March 9, 2023 by NYXboy

[Lazarus]

2 hours ago, NYXboy said:

LOL if you want people to think you are getting 10 - 15 clients a day, and 10-15 that are happy to send a $20 deposit to lock the meeting down. 

Why would a provider take a $20 when they could see the client and get $300.   Make it make sense.  It doesn't make sense. And as good old judge judy says - if it doesn't make sense, its not true. 

Simple. Some people set up fake profiles using really hot pictures that they know will get a lot of requests for an appointment. They ask for a small deposit never to be heard again. 

[+ DrownedBoy]

7 hours ago, Lazarus said:

Simple. Some people set up fake profiles using really hot pictures that they know will get a lot of requests for an appointment. They ask for a small deposit never to be heard again. 

Yeah - and they pop up on RM when they need money, still using their 10-year-old photos. I've pegged several of those here.

A hint - if you make an appointment, and they ask for a deposit at the last minute, cancel immediately. When one guy tried that on me, I just laughed at him over the phone and hung up.

[guest]

8 hours ago, Lazarus said:

Simple. Some people set up fake profiles using really hot pictures that they know will get a lot of requests for an appointment. They ask for a small deposit never to be heard again. 

You guys remind me so much of Statler and Warldoff from the muppets, but even more bitter. 

Can I ask you - What do you think of the providers that you have met?  Do you like them? do you resent them? Are you jealous that you have to pay in order to be intimate with guys that look like that? Does the whole interaction make you feel inadequate? Is there resentment here? I'm sensing a lot of that.  This is not a dig - but a very curious question.

 If you ask yourself these things and don't come away with a positive response, it could be that engaging with sex workers is not for you. I walk away from my experiences with a high, thinking about it for days. I wish that for you and for everybody. Otherwise, I wouldn't engage in it.  From the comments and posts you make here, I would seriously consider maybe not engaging in this if it brings you so much trauma.  They can probably smell the resentment on you like a bad cologne and this is affecting your time as well. 

They put their face, very intimate photos of themselves on their personal info, and their homes when they host up for our perusal - What info do you give them BEFORE you go to meet them (if in fact you actually do meet them)?

As I have, and others, have said before - use your brain - you would only do this with providers that have reviews both here and on RM. consistent and recent reviews. Only do this for rentmen that have been on the site for some length of time.

also - you do realize you can contest a payment on paypal/venmo/cashapp if the booking is not promised right?

  

[guest]

On 3/7/2023 at 3:41 PM, LATraver1263 said:

https://rent.men/DiegoMenendez
 

got scammed by this guy in San Antonio Saturday, he facetimed & asked for 115 Deposit, i sent him the hotel address & all of a sudden tried to play the whole “me no speak good english” act & never showed… kept claiming he was in the hotel lobby when HE NEVER WAS

 I am sorry this happened to you. I would advise you not to send money to people you meet online in these situations where the person has a brand new only months-old profile, and ZERO reviews - both here and on RM. Commonsense would have told you to not do that.

It's good you have posted your experience here and on another thread to warn people of this particular profile. It would be worthwhile to send info of this experience to RM website too.   

[Lazarus]

9 minutes ago, NYXboy said:

You guys remind me so much of Statler and Warldoff from the muppets, but even more bitter. 

Can I ask you - What do you think of the providers that you have met?  Do you like them? do you resent them? Are you jealous that you have to pay in order to be intimate with guys that look like that? Does the whole interaction make you feel inadequate? Is there resentment here? I'm sensing a lot of that.  This is not a dig - but a very curious question.

 If you ask yourself these things and don't come away with a positive response, it could be that engaging with sex workers is not for you. I walk away from my experiences with a high, thinking about it for days. I wish that for you and for everybody. Otherwise, I wouldn't engage in it.  From the comments and posts you make here, I would seriously consider maybe not engaging in this if it brings you so much trauma.  They can probably smell the resentment on you like a bad cologne and this is affecting your time as well. 

They put their face, very intimate photos of themselves on their personal info, and their homes when they host up for our perusal - What info do you give them BEFORE you go to meet them (if in fact you actually do meet them)?

As I have, and others, have said before - use your brain - you would only do this with providers that have reviews both here and on RM. consistent and recent reviews. Only do this for rentmen that have been on the site for some length of time.

also - you do realize you can contest a payment on paypal/venmo/cashapp if the booking is not promised right?

  

I’m just grateful I don’t have to deal with people like you. 

[guest]

5 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

I’m just grateful I don’t have to deal with people like you. 

Your response leads me to indicate I have hit a raw nerve. I found a cool profile pic for you to use.  

Seriously though - don't meet these people if it leaves you feeling bad. Your posts on these forums are literally ALL negative and almost hateful.  I struggled to find a post where you talked about ONE pleasant interaction. 

Take up Canasta or Bridge instead.  

Edited March 10, 2023 by NYXboy

[Lazarus]

1 minute ago, NYXboy said:

Your response leads me to indicate I have hit a raw nerve. I found a cool profile pic for you to use.  

Seriously though - don't meet these people if it leaves you feeling bad. Take up Canasta or Bridge instead.  

No you didn’t hit a raw nerve. It’s just that nothing you say makes any sense. You sound like a really stupid person.  None of these people make me feel bad. I just don’t like scammers & you seem to support them. 

[guest]

3 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

No you didn’t hit a raw nerve. It’s just that nothing you say makes any sense. You sound like a really stupid person.  None of these people make me feel bad. I just don’t like scammers & you seem to support them. 

The fact you choose to ignore my questions shows I am right - every single comment on every single thread here by you is negative, cruel, unkind and it seems you have an obsession with trying to 'out' providers as ingenuine.  

You are a sad person. Try and look for positive things and you will find them - look for disappointment and you will find it on any corner. Misery loves company which is why you keep trying to spread it. Life is what you make it and judging by your activity here, you're choosing a sad miserable time.  Be well!