Those who go all the way with masseurs, why not just escorts instead?

[newdad]

Wondering what your thoughts behind it.

 

EDIT: pardon the typo in the title. I meant, "why not just hire escorts instead?"

Edited February 2, 2023 by newdad

[EastbayMike]

Because my main goal is a good massage on a table from a trained professional; not from a kid with a gym membership who thinks that and his looks is all he needs to call himself a "masseuse". (Yes masseuse. How many ads have you seen where the guy says he has training but doesn't know what to call himself.)

If all I wanted was sex I'd hire an escort. 

[Bluefin]

I never go into it expecting anything more than a massage although more than a massage often happens. 

[Jamie21]

9 minutes ago, EastbayMike said:

Because my main goal is a good massage on a table from a trained professional; not from a kid with a gym membership who thinks that and his looks is all he needs to call himself a "masseuse". (Yes masseuse. How many ads have you seen where the guy says he has training but doesn't know what to call himself.)

If all I wanted was sex I'd hire an escort. 

Well said! A proper massage is important and needs to be done by someone who recognises that massage is an art. It’s not just rubbing your baby oiled hand up and down his back to kill time while you check your phone for insta  likes and the mirror for your abs.

A masseur knows that sensual massage is a seduction, to be savoured by his client. He knows it’s to  enable him to learn about his client’s body and what turns him on so that when the time comes for his client’s climax he can press all the right buttons to get the desired response. 

Hire a masseur, because the journey is at least as important as the destination. 

 

[Whippoorwill]

When I pay for an hour I want an hour. When I pay for 90 minutes I want 90 minutes. When I pay for a real massage I want a real massage by a trained and credentialed masseur plus at a minimum a happy ending. I have learned that it pays to select a masseur with a formal certification. The others...tend to be escorts who may or may not have any skill or interest in massage and may expect it's a ten minute happy ending session, period. If your picking them off a gay site, like RentMasseur on which they can check off Therapeutic, Sensual, or Erotic, they know what they are offering and you know it too. Great massage, check. Sensual time together, check. Erotic experience, check. And if you like him and respect him and treat him well, and come back again and again, you will care about each other. With the right person, it will be a wonderful experience that stimulates the mind, the heart, and the senses. When I was twenty, that was the deal with another twenty year old. Now that I am at "a certain age", the money lubricates the deal with the twenty-something year old. Fair enough. We both leave happy.

[Thelatin]

I hired a masseuse a while back.  He sat on my face and commented “I’m not even professionally trained”.

I’ve been back twice…..

[+ bencleve29]

I hire both but usually more masseurs than escorts.   Like @EastbayMike I value the massage and love a deep, therapeutic massage.  I do enjoy massages that gets more sensual as they go along, so for those masseurs who can do both well- it's a phenomenal combination that sometimes leads to more than massage.  Other times, it's purely about the sex and the chemistry with certain escorts  with whom I have an established connection.  

[Jamie21]

7 hours ago, Thelatin said:

I hired a masseuse a while back.  He sat on my face and commented “I’m not even professionally trained”.

I’ve been back twice…..

I’ve never heard of professional training in face sitting…

 

[maninsoma]

3 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

I’ve never heard of professional training in face sitting…

 

I'm disappointed with you, Jamie.  I was sure you'd have a funnier response than that, something along the lines of a fake advertisement for your face sitting school.  😉

[Jamie21]

Ugh! You’re right!!! A missed opportunity 😢

But maybe Face Sitting is a whole new genre of sex work? You have Escorts, Masseurs,Porn stars and now…Professional Face Sitters (not to be confused with the Professional Face Shitters which is a whole separate body). One miss type into Google could get you in the brown stuff inadvertently.

I do think face sitting is something that needs to be learned. So there’s merit in your face sitting school idea!

It reminds me of a situation I had with guy one time when I was filming a porno. We’d done a fair bit of topping a bottom guy (I was filming with another top) and the next scene we had was the bottom would sit on my face. The bottom had been heavily used and I guess we’d pumped a lot of air in….(no one had cum yet). As the bottom squatted over me, his hole an inch from my face he let out an almighty long and loud fart. I simply couldn’t continue from laughing so we had to stop and take a break while the bottom got all the wind out of his system.

It could, I acknowledge, have been much worse (as in the mistype above…) but it’s one of those things that should be taught to professional face sitters: check your face sittee (the receiver of the ass) is ok with a bit of blowback before you go down. That would be lesson 1. Lesson 2 is let him breathe a bit occasionally….

 

 

Edited February 3, 2023 by Jamie21

[+ newatthis]

12 hours ago, Whippoorwill said:

If your picking them off a gay site, like RentMasseur on which they can check off Therapeutic, Sensual, or Erotic, they know what they are offering and you know it too.

Unfortunately, that may no longer be the case.  I see more and more guys advertising on both Rentmen and Rentmasseur.  Some of them may offer different things depending on where their clients found them, but some certainly do not.  Case in point:  I recently hired someone from Rentmasseur who also has a Rentmen ad.  After a good erotic massage (both the massage and the erotic extras were good),  I mentioned the Rentmen ad and asked what further things we could do if I hired him from Rentmen.  "Nothing different."  I pointed out that, for example, his Rentmen ad mentioned he was into toys (something that hadn't happened in our massage session).  He said "yeah, I'm into toys, but just for myself."

[+ newatthis]

12 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

sensual massage is a seduction

Perfectly said!  

[Wanderoz]

It’s all about establishing a mutual connection & then moving forward if you both want to.  

[56harrisond]

27 minutes ago, Jamie21 said:

The bottom had been heavily used and I guess we’d pumped a lot of air in….(no one had cum yet). As the bottom squatted over me, his hole an inch from my face he let out an almighty long and loud fart. 

One of the many things bottoms think/worry about during sex.

Lesson 3: don't repeatedly pull all the way just to reinsert, that just lets in more air to fill us up.

[+ newatthis]

Just now, 56harrisond said:

Lesson 3: don't repeatedly pull all the way just to reinsert,

But that's so much fun....

[Jamie21]

5 minutes ago, 56harrisond said:

One of the many things bottoms think/worry about during sex.

Lesson 3: don't repeatedly pull all the way just to reinsert, that just lets in more air to fill us up.

Yes agree, I bottom too and prefer it to stay in once in. But sometimes if there’s two guys topping and they keep swapping ends etc then air gets pumped in! 

[pubic_assistance]

I nearly always hire masseurs. Only on the very rare occasion, have I hired an escort.

Primarily because I do not generally like hooking up with complete strangers.

I prefer to meet first. A massage is a good starting point in meeting someone. If I like the massage and I like the person doing the massage, I tip generously and inquire if they'd be interested in taking things up a notch during another meet up.

I also like a lot of foreplay during sex and erotic massage with the right guy can be a great build up to a good orgasm, even without fucking.

 

[Jamie21]

6 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I nearly always hire masseurs. Only on the very rare occasion, have I hired an escort.

Primarily because I do not generally like hooking up with complete strangers.

I prefer to meet first. A massage is a good starting point in meeting someone. If I like the massage and I like the person doing the massage, I tip generously and inquire if they'd be interested in taking things up a notch during another meet up.

I also like a lot of foreplay during sex and erotic massage with the right guy can be a great build up to a good orgasm, even without fucking.

 

You really do understand the massage scenario. As a masseur this is exactly the kind of thing I would recommend. 

[Terpmaniac]

On 2/2/2023 at 8:07 PM, Thelatin said:

I hired a masseuse a while back.  He sat on my face and commented “I’m not even professionally trained”.

I’ve been back twice…..

HILARIOUS! I guess I could do the escort thing but if you look at the videos of most escorts if its a fucking video nearly all of them the guy being nailed looks like the "escort." Which I never understood. He's buffed and beautiful fucking another buffed beauty. Huh.

[misterhumphries]

On 2/2/2023 at 5:17 PM, newdad said:

Wondering what your thoughts behind it.

 

EDIT: pardon the typo in the title. I meant, "why not just hire escorts instead?"

This topic is irksome for me. As a licensed massage therapist, it's insulting to be lumped in with the "masseurs" who do perform sex work under the guise of giving massage. State laws governing massage therapists vary by state, but they are united in prohibiting a licensed therapist from engaging in any sexual contact with clients. Nothing would be "taken up a notch." The history of massage therapy in this country began as a coded way to describe a prostitute; this is the image that the profession is still battling against today. I realize there are websites such as masseurfinder that list "masseurs."  The rates tend to be a dead giveaway that there will be something sexual taking place. A legitimate hour-long massage should cost no more than about $120.00. If I see a rate higher than that, to me it's coded for there will be something sexual taking place.

As for those who hire these "masseurs" instead of escorts, I liken it to calling an eggplant an "aubergine." Different term, but it boils down to the same thing.

[pubic_assistance]

58 minutes ago, misterhumphries said:

State laws governing massage therapists vary by state, but they are united in prohibiting a licensed therapist from engaging in any sexual contact with clients. Nothing would be "taken up a notch." 

Does it not occur to you that some masseurs might be  genuinely attracted to men who are their client ? 

I've had masseurs who I see regularly who would occasionally  meet up for a shag off the clock. 

There's absolutely nothing wrong with sex work to begin with (other than the antiquated laws) so I find your indignation misplaced.

[+ Vegas_Millennial]

On 2/2/2023 at 5:07 PM, Thelatin said:

I hired a masseuse a while back.  He sat on my face and commented “I’m not even professionally trained”.

I’ve been back twice…..

I would NEVER let a masseuse sit on my face. 🤢 🤮

But a massuer... Have a seat!

[Whippoorwill]

I sympathize with Misterhumphries. Training and licensing to become a masseur is difficult and expensive, and those with the skill and credentials deserve the credit and not be confused with sex workers. That being said, in America we are so uptight about anything sexual (damn those Puritans) that we forget...as my wonderful masseur (with a boatload of professional credentials) says, "Every massage I give is therapeutic, sensual, and erotic." He understands that whole body healing includes sexual healing, and that my anus and penis need it as much as my shoulders. He does get irate, and refuses to book, a session for "sex." He only does the full body massage, and "full" is full. 

[rhh33]

16 hours ago, Whippoorwill said:

I sympathize with Misterhumphries. Training and licensing to become a masseur is difficult and expensive, and those with the skill and credentials deserve the credit and not be confused with sex workers. That being said, in America we are so uptight about anything sexual (damn those Puritans) that we forget...as my wonderful masseur (with a boatload of professional credentials) says, "Every massage I give is therapeutic, sensual, and erotic." He understands that whole body healing includes sexual healing, and that my anus and penis need it as much as my shoulders. He does get irate, and refuses to book, a session for "sex." He only does the full body massage, and "full" is full. 

I see both sides of this and am conflicted.  Totally understand Misterhumphries POV and the stigma.  For me the fantasy/reality of having a massage and it turning into something sexual is exciting.

[Jamie21]

I see the irritation @misterhumphrieshas around therapeutic masseurs being conflated with sensual or erotic masseurs. It’s because of out dated and puritanical attitudes towards sex, and the law being an ass. 

I start from the position that there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing sex work. As long as no one is being exploited then sex work is as good as any other work. It’s a societal need, and I hope that one day society will be mature enough to recognise that.

For me, sensual or erotic massage is simply another type of massage. One should be properly informed and trained about the health risks etc, and trained to perform proper massage strokes, but ALSO be trained to massage genitals and areas that therapeutic masseurs don’t go. It’s certainly not just rub and tug. 

A great sensual masseur will understand how to give a fantastic therapeutic massage and they’ll understand how to arouse their client. It’s as much about what’s going on in their head as what’s going on in their genitals. 

In our society no one gets taught about how to get pleasure from their body, they find it by trial and error, if they find it at all. Having a sensual massage is a great step along the way to becoming a better lover.