Milo's opinion: Paying a deposit or upfront

[pubic_assistance]

19 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

You really do not believe what you posted (I hope).

Realistically, who would pay a stranger (escort) to meet and only pay for time? 

I know that prostitution is illegal in the United States, and I know it's therefore only legal to pay for TIME.

What happens between two consenting adults while otherwise contracted for time spent is a private matter and not

under any contract of exchange of money for sex.

[coriolis888]

20 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

I know that prostitution is illegal in the United States, and I know it's therefore only legal to pay for TIME.

What happens between two consenting adults while otherwise contracted for time spent is a private matter and not

under any contract of exchange of money for sex.

[pubic_assistance]

coriolis888

  You don't seem to understand discretion when discussing this matter.

With the world of meta-data I highly recommend that people NOT publish documented evidence of illegal activity.

[Wanderoz]

[Milo Janus]

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

coriolis888

  You don't seem to understand discretion when discussing this matter.

With the world of meta-data I highly recommend that people NOT publish documented evidence of illegal activity.

I always ask how much is your time.  

[+ DrownedBoy]

On 12/28/2022 at 2:32 AM, Jamie21 said:

My advice remains though, don’t pay deposit unless you’re prepared to lose the money.

My philosophy as well. On the 1 or 2 occasions when the escort was respected enough for me to be willing to place a deposit, I prepared to get stood up, and praised them for honestly showing up.

[coriolis888]

6 hours ago, pubic_assistance said:

 

  You don't seem to understand discretion when discussing this matter.

With the world of meta-data I highly recommend that people NOT publish documented evidence of illegal activity.

The escort's rentmen advertisement speaks volumes.  Many escort ads go into graphic details of what an escort is offering.

Do you really think any judge in a court would think a client only bought "time" after seeing the related rentmen advertisement? 

Edited December 30, 2022 by coriolis888

[pubic_assistance]

Degree of deniability is your friend.

[+ KensingtonHomo]

I’ve only been asked for deposits when I’m meeting someone for the first time. I’d they have a good rep I don’t mind doing it and I’ve never been burned. 🤞🏻

[Cruiser7]

On 12/27/2022 at 2:06 AM, Midtownguy99 said:

But today, deposits are very much the norm and us clients need to respect that if it’s requested from a reputable provider.

Or we don’t have to respect the request and find another provider who isn’t requesting a deposit. 

[coriolis888]

On 12/26/2022 at 8:07 PM, caramelsub said:

I’ll never pay a deposit.

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I have heard of providers who have been cheated by clients. 

Any statistics on which is the bad guy, i.e., the provider or the client (cheats who)?

If I were a betting person, I would bet that the provider cheats far more than any client.  

 

[likembbbig]

Imho, paying upon arrival, I.e. paying someone before they have earned it, is a matter of dignity, which is too high a price to pay. It's supposed to be fun. Focus on that & all should be well. 

Edited January 18, 2023 by likembbbig
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[Milo Janus]

On 12/29/2022 at 11:12 AM, coriolis888 said:

What George Carlin once said (paraphrasing:)  Why is it illegal to sell something that is legal to giveaway.

[+ DrownedBoy]

5 hours ago, Milo Janus said:

What George Carlin once said (paraphrasing:)  Why is it illegal to sell something that is legal to giveaway.

Oh, you can legally buy it. You just have to pay with fancy meals and gifts.

[misterhumphries]

2 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

Oh, you can legally buy it. You just have to pay with fancy meals and gifts.

That's not pay. What you describe is barter. Payment involves cold hard cash.

[ChasingGirth]

Never pay upfront. If a guy is asking for money upfront it’s not a good sign. If the guy is professional and confident he can deliver what he is paid for, he has no reasons to request the money upfront. 

[coriolis888]

16 hours ago, ChasingGirth said:

Never pay upfront. If a guy is asking for money upfront it’s not a good sign. If the guy is professional and confident he can deliver what he is paid for, he has no reasons to request the money upfront. 

Try to explain that to providers who insist on advance payments.

Edited January 19, 2023 by coriolis888
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[+ nycman]

2 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

Try trying to explain that to providers who insist on advance payments.

It’s not hard at all……just repeat after me…."no thank you".

[coriolis888]

32 minutes ago, nycman said:

It’s not hard at all……just repeat after me…."no thank you".

If only it were that simple.

 

 

[coriolis888]

15 hours ago, nycman said:

It’s not hard at all……just repeat after me…."no thank you".

If you start the meeting with the provider on a negative note (refusing to pay in advance) who knows what kind of lousy experience you can expect from the provider.

There are too many reports of deposits and advance payments going wrong.  

 

[coriolis888]

On 12/26/2022 at 8:07 PM, caramelsub said:

 I have heard of providers who have been cheated by clients. 

And you believe this?

[coriolis888]

On 12/26/2022 at 8:54 PM, Midtownguy99 said:

Those are not good providers IMO. 

Like so many other providers that insist on deposits or payments in advance.  

[MikeBiDude]

4 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

And you believe this?

I believe it…we just had a recent post by a provider/forum member where it happened.

[NJF]

14 minutes ago, coriolis888 said:

And you believe this?

One of my regular had a pretty scary situation last fall in Charlotte. He was threatened with violence and did not get what was agreed upon. 

[+ nycman]

2 hours ago, coriolis888 said:

If you start the meeting with the provider on a negative note (refusing to pay in advance) who knows what kind of lousy experience you can expect from the provider.

If a provider waits until you arrive to tell you that they expect payment 
upfront, you’re already in for a crappy experience. Acquiescing to their sudden
request for payment up front isn’t going to change that. The date is already
fucked up and I refuse to reward shady business practices. 

I’ve never had someone ask for $$ upfront and had it end well. Yes,
after I politely say "no thank you" I fully expect them to turn tail and 
leave. The scam has been exposed. They have nothing to gain. 

I have agreed ahead of time to showing the $$ on arrival. There is a
small risk in that I’ll admit, but I’m a fairly large/strong man and it’s one
I am sometimes willing to take. Especially, if I get the vibe that the request
is in earnest. I’m not saying that it can’t happen, but I’ve never gotten
burned in that scenario. 

I have no problem with escorts who say they require the money upfront,
as long as they tell me ahead of time. I will politely decline the appointment
and move on to the next provider. I wish them no ill will. It is their business
to run as they see fit. Unfortunately, I will not be one of their clients.

If that pisses them off…..I know I just dodged a bullet. 

Edited January 20, 2023 by nycman