+ DrownedBoy Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Believe it. All the providers who insisted on my money upon arrival were lousy and, in one case, an outright thief who left right after grabbing the cash. pubic_assistance, HoseMaster and coriolis888 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ azdr0710 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 on the rare occasion that I meet with a new provider (have a few regulars for now), I'll politely say in pre-meet planning that I'll pay at the end of the meeting, that I'm an honest guy, and that I don't want to talk money during the meet....then I'll ask if all that is ok with them........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coriolis888 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, DrownedBoy said: Believe it. All the providers who insisted on my money upon arrival were lousy and, in one case, an outright thief who left right after grabbing the cash. The act of asking for deposits and/or money on arrival is not a scene set for a pleasant encounter. Showing the provider that you have the money set aside for him should be more than enough for the provider to continue on with the scheduled appointment without the provider taking the money in advance. It is when agreements change on arrival and the provider insists on being paid before rendering any service is when the pleasant mood of a client changes to something negative, far less than was expected from the provider. As to providers supposedly not being paid by clients after a date is scheduled is highly suspect. That might happen on a rare occasion but likely, if it did happen, the provider is omitting something that he did that caused the client to leave the encounter without paying. I know of one client who answered an ad and went to the apartment of the provider. When the client got to the provider, the person answering the door was not the person shown in the photos in the rentmen ad. The client left without any physical contact with the provider and did not pay anything. The client later wrote a negative review on rentmen about the bogus provider. The provider responded by ignoring the fact that his ad included fake photos. All the provider said was that the client was a crook and did not pay for his services. Why should a client pay if he immediately leaves after seeing that the person answering the door is not the person in the advertisement? pubic_assistance and HoseMaster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 On 1/19/2023 at 5:57 PM, coriolis888 said: And you believe this? Yes. Sex workers get screwed over by clients all the time. In addition to not being paid, they get assaulted, raped, outed, etc. If you're going to engage with escorts, you should familiarize yourself with the dark side of the business. You don't have to make a deposit or pay in advance, but don't gaslight everyone by pretending escorts aren't dealing with risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ KensingtonHomo Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 On 1/19/2023 at 9:47 PM, coriolis888 said: As to providers supposedly not being paid by clients after a date is scheduled is highly suspect. That might happen on a rare occasion but likely, if it did happen, the provider is omitting something that he did that caused the client to leave the encounter without paying. Again, go over to the "Ask A Provider" section and see how many times these guys have been burned. Also, some people pay electronically so there's no envelope of cash to set aside. In that scenario, the provider is assuming a lot of the risk. There are also a ton of industries where people or companies require a deposit upfront to hold an appointment or start a project. The difference between most of those legal enterprises is that there is usually a contract or some way for them to claw back some of the promised funds. I do paid speaking engagements. And after having been burned by laying out money for travel and lodging, I now require contracts for everything and that the conference pay for travel and lodging upfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ DrownedBoy Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 Until escorting is legalized, there's no chance at making a legal contract or agreement. When we do have such things, I'll consider paying deposits more often. coriolis888 and HoseMaster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coriolis888 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/21/2023 at 7:29 AM, KensingtonHomo said: Snip I do paid speaking engagements. And after having been burned by laying out money for travel and lodging, I now require contracts for everything and that the conference pay for travel and lodging upfront. Your paid speaking engagements are not illegal. You can draw up a contract and legally enforce payment. A provider (escort) is running against the wind in that what he is doing is illegal for him and for his client. Unenforceable contracts = no contract = no analogy. Sorry to punch a hole in your balloon thus deflating your side of defending the alleged mistreatment of providers. HoseMaster, Wanderoz and + DrownedBoy 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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