Is Traveling Worth It?

[RandyVue]

Im curious about masseurs and providers  who travel. I would think that after paying for flights, hotel, transportation to and from hotel, etc that it would be difficult to make a trip financially beneficial and worthwhile. Am I wrong to assume that?

Edited April 14, 2022 by RandyVue

[BuffaloKyle]

See @Jarrod_Uncut's posts! For him it's a hell no not worth it! But I'll let him chime in and speak for himself when he sees this question! 😁

Edited April 14, 2022 by BuffaloKyle

[Shawn Monroe]

These are the questions I love, that ask about our experience. 

but to your question, it can certainly add up, once you count the things you mentioned plus expenses like food, checking a table (which is the absolute worst experience), and the snowballing costs associated (bringing a table means needing a bigger room, which usually costs extra). 

some ways i mitigate:

- travel to more expensive cities in off-peak times. 
- fly on off peak times and days. 
- have a number of confirmed appointments before I go to gauge if the trip will be worth it.
- catch flight and hotel sales and go
- work up to flight / hotel / rental car / credit card status as it can come in handy.  
then. 
- couple it with another event so i don’t feel like I need to hit a goal of sorts. 
- buy food up front at the grocery store to avoid eating fast food. 

and to the overall point, this is why I drive to most cities, and choose to live in a city that is driving distance to a lot of cities.

hope this helps…

 

Edited April 14, 2022 by Shawn Monroe

[Brian Kevin]

As someone with 1million miles under their belt for touring in a car...

FUCK YES ITS LUCRATIVE.

How do I do it?

1.  Find you an employee rates from a hotel brand. Marriott is best.

2. Fuck flying just drive and stop along the way

3. Onlyfans and video sales are supplemental income.

4. Regulars Regulars Regulars

5. Team up with another trustworthy guy. I have been traveling with my porn mother, The SheMeatress and we split costs 

 

Sorry I cannot help you get a Marriott explorer forum. But I can offer advice on how to find one. 

 

If you have any personalized questions about touring please reach out!

 

Ps the money is NOT in NYC Chicago or weho. It's in places like upstate ny and ABQ, NM.

[Brian Kevin]

11 minutes ago, Shawn Monroe said:

These are the questions I love, that ask about our experience. 

but to your question, it can certainly add up, once you count the things you mentioned plus expenses like food, checking a table (which is the absolute worst experience), and the snowballing costs associated (bringing a table means needing a bigger room, which usually costs extra). 

some ways i mitigate:

- travel to more expensive cities in off-peak times. 
- fly on off peak times and days. 
- have a number of confirmed appointments before I go to gauge if the trip will be worth it.
- catch flight and hotel sales and go
- work up to flight / hotel / rental car / credit card status as it can come in handy.  
then. 
- couple it with another event so i don’t feel like I need to hit a goal of sorts. 
- buy food up front at the grocery store to avoid eating fast food. 

and to the overall point, this is why I drive to most cities, and choose to live in a city that is driving distance to a lot of cities.

hope this helps…

 

Oooofff you need a hotel employee. Everything else doesn't matter when the Marriott is 45$ a night 🤣

[Brian Kevin]

If you use marriott try the IBM Rate code to start also. Lmk if u need help With that 

[BuffaloKyle]

1 minute ago, Brian Kevin said:

Ps the money is NOT in NYC Chicago or weho. It's in places like upstate ny and ABQ, NM.

See it's true. I tell everyone to come to Buffalo! 🤩

[Brian Kevin]

Just now, BuffaloKyle said:

See it's true. I tell everyone to come to Buffalo! 🤩

I am so sorry to do this to you...

 I drive right past Buffalo. Fuck that noise. Stay safe.  I coin down in rochester and Syracuse tbh.

[BuffaloKyle]

1 minute ago, Brian Kevin said:

I am so sorry to do this to you...

 I drive right past Buffalo. Fuck that noise. Stay safe.  I coin down in rochester and Syracuse tbh.

😭 I'm in the quiet suburbs so it's ok! The actual city can be crazy.

[Brian Kevin]

1 minute ago, BuffaloKyle said:

😭 I'm in the quiet suburbs so it's ok! The actual city can be crazy.

I smell Amherst in then hause 

[BuffaloKyle]

Just now, Brian Kevin said:

I smell Amherst in then hause 

I'm not that rich but close! 

[Brian Kevin]

Same with me in Cleveland 🤣

[Jarrod_Uncut]

55 minutes ago, Brian Kevin said:

Oooofff you need a hotel employee. Everything else doesn't matter when the Marriott is 45$ a night 🤣

Sometimes…but not always the case depending on city. I was in Boise, Idaho couple weeks ago: insane hotel prices. Same with Salt Lake City. They used to run fairly decent prices 10 years ago, but now both areas hotels are way up. I mostly used points and stayed outside of the downtowns to mitigate it. I was able to get a family rate at a decent 1 bedroom Marriott that was comparable to a run of mill. But it was still $149-$169. Fortunately the 2 bookings I had, were extended. 
 

I actually like a couple other brands a little better because I get more free nights, and the rates tend to be a little less in some markets. 
 

But there’s been an annoying trade off with cheaper hotels: many of them will require a $100+ deposit (even some of the super-budget hotels that I’ve had to stay at once or twice on some trips due to arrival times/sold out everything).
 

Sometimes I can avoid it with my elite status, sometimes I can’t. Also, unlike 3rd party: I can’t always use a separate card to hold the deposit. Which sucks because I got a card that I only wanted to use for hotel holds (not the rate, since it’s a CC). But booking directly thru Marriott or any hotel, they will hold it on the card you pay with automatically. With 3rd party, I can just whip out the handy “hotel deposit card” and be on my way.

However, I’ve gotten so tired of booking thru 3rd parties and having to change or cancel and being unable to. I’ve been traveling since March 5th, and I used Priceline 2 nights the entire time. Everything else been direct thru the hote. 

1 hour ago, BuffaloKyle said:

See @Jarrod_Uncut's posts! For him it's a hell no not worth it! But I'll let him chime in and speak for himself when he sees this question! 😁

Wait, wait. That’s not what I said ☝🛑  lol. I never said traveling is not worth it, I been doing it since the prehistoric days of 2008 when I first drove from Florida to Dallas…and been on it ever since. 

I previously asked about the appeal of traveling to MAJOR cities, and how it contrasts to smaller markets and weighing which is more profitable. 

However I fared better in San Francisco and Seattle, (both larger markets) than I’m doing in my current area right now, which is no LA or Chicago, but it’s an overly saturated market of providers in a city that 10-15 years ago, only had like 5-10 escorts. Now there’s like 100. 
 

Also traveling does depend on several things, like someone above mentioned. Right now, it’s not a great time to do road-trip especially on west coast. I probably went thru over $750 on fuel in the past month. I was almost not wanting to even do it…but I was able to cut costs in other ways to where it didn’t interfere too much initially. Now it’s become a problem because maybe April tax deadline, the lines have been dead. All that I spent, has not been made back. 

Edited April 14, 2022 by Jarrod_Uncut

[Jarrod_Uncut]

5 hours ago, RandyVue said:

Im curious about masseurs and providers  who travel. I would think that after paying for flights, hotel, transportation to and from hotel, etc that it would be difficult to make a trip financially beneficial and worthwhile. Am I wrong to assume that?

At the end of the day, it just depends on what one’s expenses are and how they choose to travel. 

There’s been times when I would be spending/losing more money sitting home and paying rent/bills than I would hopping in a car and traveling somewhere. 

I personally don’t fly for variety of reasons (and all this crazy stuff in the news makes me even more reluctant of public transport). But, driving may not be the cheaper answer always. Also, Amtrak is a good deal if you’re in a hub of nearby cities. But for me…I’d only do that if I was planning to stay downtown and not driving outside of the area. But problem is: cities are too unpredictable. Like I said before, staying downtown feels more of a losing proposition to me. Higher priced hotels and many clients don’t seem to want to go downtown in some cities. 

I had to wrap up my tour to an extent because, I needed to strategize on how I wanted to arrange visits. Too many last minute inquiries, not enough serious. Annoying. I was considering not advertising in advance for travels, but I have to backtrack on that a little. However, nowadays I don’t think I’ll post travels much longer than a week or 2 ahead. That still won’t prevent the, “are you available NOW” (and the city is 500 miles away 🤦🏽‍♂️ Like dude, did you not read anything???

[italianboyph]

I travel just to travel all the time, but when it comes to this it honestly just depends on location. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

21 hours ago, italianboyph said:

I travel just to travel all the time, but when it comes to this it honestly just depends on location. 

That’s a good way to do it. And to reiterate, even though I may discuss things in a way that relates to escorting when referring to cities, I just have a whole appreciation for travel, photography, and scenery. I was into travel long before escorting. It just became a natural transition into it, without having to be a truck driver to do it. 

I don’t want people to get me wrong. Maybe I don’t express myself the best on every post. I’m not mad or regretful about anything. When I refer to specific setbacks, that’s only like a few minutes of screen time and only

in the context of the subject I speak on. All the other 23 hours of the day, I’m living my best life 🤘🏾 

Matter of fact, while I’m at it: I’ll go ahead and throw in some pics/vids from my latest tour:

 

The beach in San Francisco:

View from hotel in Reno

 

Ocean beach, SF

 

the famous Castro 

view from Macys, SF

 

Cool lobby of an outcall, Seattle 

Me cooking and having 🍷 in my air bnb

Mt. Rainier, Seattle

 

space needle Seattle 

Colorado Rockies 

Denver downtown at night

[maninsoma]

I just saw an ad of a traveling guy in my area (San Francisco) who, whether wise or accurate or not, decided to include in his ad that in some travel cities he is fully booked before he even arrives, mostly due to repeat customers.  I'll take him at his word and assume it's true, since I cannot think of any reason to want to make potential clients assume you're too busy to see them.  That is an example of a provider for whom traveling is worth it, all because he has developed his business in such a way that clients want to see him repeatedly.  I've never met him even though I think he's very attractive because I'm basically on hiatus from hiring due to personal reasons.  I still like window shopping, though. 

Edited April 15, 2022 by maninsoma

[Jarrod_Uncut]

14 hours ago, maninsoma said:

I just saw an ad of a traveling guy in my area (San Francisco) who, whether wise or accurate or not, decided to include in his ad that in some travel cities he is fully booked before he even arrives, mostly due to repeat customers.  I'll take him at his word and assume it's true, since I cannot think of any reason to want to make potential clients assume you're too busy to see them.  That is an example of a provider for whom traveling is worth it, all because he has developed his business in such a way that clients want to see him repeatedly.  I've never met him even though I think he's very attractive because I'm basically on hiatus from hiring due to personal reasons.  I still like window shopping, though. 

Well, that’s easy to address. Maybe said guy goes to said cities often enough to have that regular base book him up. In my case: San Francisco tends to be more of a biennial trip for me: But I’ve not been since 2016 so…everybody I met, had been new clients. 

And…as been said, maybe “fully booked” means 1 or 2 clients a day, or per trip: if assessing all the variables. Like for example: I’m “fully booked” in Kansas City during some weekends. But that means I have my 1 regular steady client and maybe 1 newbie if I’m lucky, who keeps me all night+ a couple bbqs to attend. Otherwise, it’s usually pretty void of actually bookings.

I can see the benefit of being fully booked by regulars when traveling to a location, but it’s not always the case. Like I said, I was taken aback last week when I went to a city that I did awesome last month, then I went again and it was completely dead. Not a soul to be found. However, that particular city isn’t keen on regulars, but rather: the closeted straight guy who wants NSA. 

Edited April 16, 2022 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ DrownedBoy]

On 4/15/2022 at 1:52 PM, maninsoma said:

I just saw an ad of a traveling guy in my area (San Francisco) who, whether wise or accurate or not, decided to include in his ad that in some travel cities he is fully booked before he even arrives, mostly due to repeat customers.  I'll take him at his word and assume it's true, since I cannot think of any reason to want to make potential clients assume you're too busy to see them.  That is an example of a provider for whom traveling is worth it, all because he has developed his business in such a way that clients want to see him repeatedly.  I've never met him even though I think he's very attractive because I'm basically on hiatus from hiring due to personal reasons.  I still like window shopping, though. 

Oh, there are reasons to make that up, as I learned.

A certain escort was traveling to my city. I tried setting something up a week ahead of time, but he told me to wait. Once in town, he told me he was totally booked, but would squeeze me in....if I paid a higher and outrageous rate.

I stopped responding immediately.  If you're going to try and scam me, have the decency to use something original and believable. 

[FrancisCA]

On 4/13/2022 at 9:09 PM, Brian Kevin said:

As someone with 1million miles under their belt for touring in a car...

FUCK YES ITS LUCRATIVE.

How do I do it?

1.  Find you an employee rates from a hotel brand. Marriott is best.

2. Fuck flying just drive and stop along the way

3. Onlyfans and video sales are supplemental income.

4. Regulars Regulars Regulars

5. Team up with another trustworthy guy. I have been traveling with my porn mother, The SheMeatress and we split costs 

 

Sorry I cannot help you get a Marriott explorer forum. But I can offer advice on how to find one. 

 

If you have any personalized questions about touring please reach out!

 

Ps the money is NOT in NYC Chicago or weho. It's in places like upstate ny and ABQ, NM.

I used to have an employee friend in Marriot before he got laid off and MAN was that discout nice. What I would do to have that again ha! 

[marylander1940]

On 4/13/2022 at 8:04 PM, RandyVue said:

Im curious about masseurs and providers  who travel. I would think that after paying for flights, hotel, transportation to and from hotel, etc that it would be difficult to make a trip financially beneficial and worthwhile. Am I wrong to assume that?

Depends...

Most escorts (I know) want to triple their investment when they travel somewhere, they search for the cheapest airfare in their airline of choice and a good rate for the hotel or Airbnb. 

Is always a good idea to do some canvassing to see if there's much interest in a certain city, some might require an "anchor client" who flies them there for a overnight, etc. 

[Boink]

My question regarding traveling escorts - do you include your travel days when you say you'll be visiting (for example) LA from April 28 till May 5?  Meaning you are traveling two of those days and therefore only really available from April 29 till May 4? 

Many times I'll see a traveling escort's itinerary listed (for example) as LA April 28 - May 5. NYC May 5 - May 12. London May 12 - May 30. etc.  How does that work?  Also, do you generally save yourself any 'me' time for sight-seeing or relaxing?  Which would make your availability even less?

[Jamie21]

If I’m travelling it’s for a holiday so I’m not working while I’m away. My market in London is busy enough not to need to travel for clients fortunately. It seems that mostly clients travel to London and arrange their sessions with providers while they’re visiting the city. Many of my clients are from overseas. 

What I will do whilst away is look for guys who might want to film to collaborate on fans site movies. If I can set up a filming session while away then that’s good for content on my justforfans. Or I’ll just take some scenery shots and solo scenes in nice locations if I can’t find someone to collaborate with. 

[Jarrod_Uncut]

On 4/17/2022 at 11:38 PM, Boink said:

My question regarding traveling escorts - do you include your travel days when you say you'll be visiting (for example) LA from April 28 till May 5?  Meaning you are traveling two of those days and therefore only really available from April 29 till May 4? 

Many times I'll see a traveling escort's itinerary listed (for example) as LA April 28 - May 5. NYC May 5 - May 12. London May 12 - May 30. etc.  How does that work?  Also, do you generally save yourself any 'me' time for sight-seeing or relaxing?  Which would make your availability even less?

I personally want to get rid of the travel schedule. People get too confused or focus too much on travel dates. Cut that it out of the equation. To me, that only works if an escort is flying in, likely due to a business conference or other purpose not related to escorting. It doesn’t really allow those who have extended flexibility or in an area an uncertain period of time.

It’s already been stated by a couple of clients that some guys don’t even bother posting or announcing travel dates. Maybe they don’t want to be “tied to” a window of dates. I really don’t even like to go anywhere unless I have a couple clients booked ahead. But I can’t do that unless I put a date in my ad, and I have to be within RM’s 250 mile radius of the city to have it as “near travel” without a date. Which most times I’m not. But that’s usually better because then I can explain to a client: NO: I’m not there now. YES, I am willing to come there once YOU and other clients are able to coordinate a visit.
 

So I often had to imply that the travel dates I have listed are meant to be approximate windows of arrival. Then people get uptight when I don’t show up during those dates for reasons out of my control. And then I come off like a flake, when in reality I had needed to get a schedule going in order to proceed.

 

On 4/18/2022 at 3:12 AM, Jamie21 said:

If I’m travelling it’s for a holiday so I’m not working while I’m away. My market in London is busy enough not to need to travel for clients fortunately. It seems that mostly clients travel to London and arrange their sessions with providers while they’re visiting the city. Many of my clients are from overseas. 

What I will do whilst away is look for guys who might want to film to collaborate on fans site movies. If I can set up a filming session while away then that’s good for content on my justforfans. Or I’ll just take some scenery shots and solo scenes in nice locations if I can’t find someone to collaborate with. 

I will say there’s an accuracy in what @BuffaloKyle said about how I feel about travel. There’s some things I’m finding that are becoming more occurrences, and it’s really souring the benefits of travel:

#1 clients can’t seem to keep their word as much. Just today I had 2 appointments fall thru, one claiming to woke up sick, the other we had been coordinating for tomorrow, but then had some schedule conflicts. Fortunately I was able to keep the deposit but still: these clients were in small markets, where replacing with a different client isn’t likely in a day. So now, I have to cancel both those destinations. 

#2 the limitations of people’s schedules mixed with the limitations of when I can utilize a hotel room. I can’t work with people, if they aren’t willing to work with me. Many people try to book something between noon and 3 p.m. that’s not a good time if I’m only staying in a hotel for 1 day. I hear mariott titanium members get 4 p.m. checkout, but I haven’t racked up that many nights, as I spread my hotel nights between 2-3 different hotel chains that offer lower prices/better points-perks. Also I’m finding many hotels aren’t even honoring their word on early/late checkout. One chain touts 2 p.m. checkout for elite members. But every hotel I’ve stayed at, I almost have to beg just to get 1 pm.
 

I usually don’t like people trying to come after 11 a.m. or before 3 p.m., because too many times rooms weren’t ready or the hotel was sold out and couldn’t offer later than a 12:30-1 o’clock checkout. Meanwhile the client is left waiting until I can. 

 

Traveling is starting to become more cumbersome than fun…And the main roadblock is caused by the hotels, and client’s limited ability to meet. I’m really starting to hate hotels. They don’t care about anything besides  getting the most money for the least amount of time. You can barely a full 24 hours use out of 1 night. And many times, staying for 2 nights isn’t needed or resourceful if it’s only going to be 1 or 2 clients. 
 

I’m almost feeling I could be making more being in a less-competitive market and having maximum availability that’s not being dictated by when a client can squeeze in time, and how soon or late I can check into/out a hotel room. 
 

Pretty soon (and as it has been lately), it may end up I will only travel if my first client can accommodate an appointment in the evening.    And if anyone wants to meet at the peak of the day, they will have to take 2nd place to someone with a little more flexibility. 

Edited April 20, 2022 by Jarrod_Uncut

[+ DrownedBoy]

As a client, I have to mention one thing.

If an escort doesn't let people he's visiting for the weekend ahead of time, he's going to lose a lot of potential clients.

Edited April 22, 2022 by DrownedBoy