STOCK BAR / MONTREAL

[Luv2play]

It has been many years since available escorts were found on Ste Catherine street. Those days are gone like many of the businesses and restaurants that used to flourish there.

The hustlers in days of yore could be found in the evenings during the good weather in the small park behind the Bourbon Complex on Ste Catherine. There were many regulars and some were a lot of fun. You could feel safe taking them home.

 

I never picked up one on StevCatherine St itself as many were junkies just looking for a quick fix.

 

The Bourbon complex is gone and being redeveloped as a condo. Haven’t tried that park in ages.

[Mustang]

On thing to be careful of with strip bars is if they offer you a private dance at XXX amount it's per SONG not per dance. A friend of mine got in some trouble when Happy Tap was around in Windsor. A dance quoted him $10 or $15 for a private dance

 

Ahh.. I remember The Happy Tap. Happy memories! I use to go there when 19 so I could drink. There were some scammers in there (and the Gold Coast). One of my first bars I had to figure out how to tip strippers with coins.

[+ azdr0710]

One of my first bars I had to figure out how to tip strippers with coins.

 

'nuf said!!

[Mustang]

It sounds like your friend was pretty naive. I can see why the dancer was pissed off.

 

We were all naive once. Fortunately, I had good people in my life who showed me the ropes than being critical.

[handiacefailure]

Ahh.. I remember The Happy Tap. Happy memories! I use to go there when 19 so I could drink. There were some scammers in there (and the Gold Coast). One of my first bars I had to figure out how to tip strippers with coins.

 

I miss the Happy Tap. There used to be a bathhouse in Windsor I would go to with an Escort from Windsor that couldn't host that burned down a few years ago I liked also.

 

I remember the Gold Coast when I was in college, forget why we would go there sometimes after the Gas Station, but my friend used to called it the Troll Coast LOL. Miss the eagle also in Detroit even though it was in a scary area.

 

I think we used american money to tip the strippers at Happy Tap:) I remember Remingtons in torono would sell you these slips of paper for a Loonie or a Toonie to give the strippers they could cash in to tip them with.

[+ SundayZip]

I think it's pretty clear to everyone who's been to a strip club that the price is per song. There can be disagreements between client and dancer on the number or songs, but the per song fee structure is a given. But I've run into surprises when a dancer tacks on additional charges at the end of a lap dance session because I did something "extra" during the dances and the "extra" costs more. (More accurately, he let me do something extra.) He's given me no forewarning ahead of time nor does he say anything while it's happening. The tricky part of this is that another dancer at the same club on the same day will include that particular "extra" in the per song rate with no up-charges -- often after you've done a minimum number of songs.

 

What do you do? Pay the extra to avoid an embarrassing scene? Refuse to pay even when the dancer gets somewhat aggressive?

[Luv2play]

I think it's pretty clear to everyone who's been to a strip club that the price is per song. There can be disagreements between client and dancer on the number or songs, but the per song fee structure is a given. But I've run into surprises when a dancer tacks on additional charges at the end of a lap dance session because I did something "extra" during the dances and the "extra" costs more. (More accurately, he let me do something extra.) He's given me no forewarning ahead of time nor does he say anything while it's happening. The tricky part of this is that another dancer at the same club on the same day will include that particular "extra" in the per song rate with no up-charges -- often after you've done a minimum number of songs.

 

What do you do? Pay the extra to avoid an embarrassing scene? Refuse to pay even when the dancer gets somewhat aggressive?

That’s never happened to me. The extras though are usually only thrown in, so to speak, after at least 3 songs. Once I get to 5 songs if the extras haven’t happened I terminate the dance.

 

It would be embarrassing if the dancer came up with extra charges afterwards. Not sure how I would respond. It would depend on what club I was in. That would never happen at Campus, imo.

[handiacefailure]

I think it's pretty clear to everyone who's been to a strip club that the price is per song. There can be disagreements between client and dancer on the number or songs, but the per song fee structure is a given. But I've run into surprises when a dancer tacks on additional charges at the end of a lap dance session because I did something "extra" during the dances and the "extra" costs more. (More accurately, he let me do something extra.) He's given me no forewarning ahead of time nor does he say anything while it's happening. The tricky part of this is that another dancer at the same club on the same day will include that particular "extra" in the per song rate with no up-charges -- often after you've done a minimum number of songs.

 

What do you do? Pay the extra to avoid an embarrassing scene? Refuse to pay even when the dancer gets somewhat aggressive?

 

In our case we just left and my friend refused to pay but had given him all the cash he had, my friend was so furious he wanted to leave. My friend told me we were going and didn't like how they did things there and the dancer said my friend owed him money and he was going to have him arrested for not paying and my friend said fine call the cops. I can only remember paying for a lapdance once at a bar and that was reimington's and knew it would be per song. At happy tap my friend was pissed off because he said the dance wasn't that good and the dancer engaged him into conversation after.

 

That's why I'd rather just hire an escort. You have a clear understanding upfront on fee and services.

[AvengingDanno]

Every single time I went to Remingtons lap dance area, once women were allowed every night instead of just Sundays, I would hear women speaking to one another from one stall to the other "did you know it's $20 per song, not per dance - let's get outta here". For me, the concept was clear, otherwise it's a bad business model.

[SirBillybob]

... Remingtons ... I would hear women speaking to one another from one stall to the other "did you know it's $20 per song, not per dance - let's get outta here".

Hahahahahahahah .... With only the big head they are advantageously ahead.

[+ SundayZip]

... A dance quoted him $10 or $15 for a private dance and after my friend got off insisted on bullshitting with him for a good ten minutes. When my friend gave him money what he thought was for the entire dance and a nice tip the dancer got pissy and told him it was per song and my friend didn't have the money My friend came and retreived me and said we were going and I asked why and he said they didn't like how they did things there and the dancer told me his friend owed him something like $75 and my friend told the dancer he gave him all he had and told the dancer to call the cops if he wanted and we left.

 

Bernie walks up to a fruit stand...

 

Bernie: "How much are the apples?"

Fruit vendor: "Twenty-five cents"

Bernie: "I'll take 10"

Fruit vendor: "Ok, here you are. That will be $2.50"

Bernie: "What? No way! You said the apples are twenty-five cents!"

Fruit vendor: !?

Edited January 3, 2021 by SundayZip

[Luv2play]

Say the song is four minutes long and they charge $20 a song and you do five songs at $100 that is 20 minutes or $300 for an hour. Why not just hire an escort? You can be getting some great sex and/or a good massage out of it. It's been a long time since I've been to Montreal but there used to be plenty of escorts on Sainte-Catherine street every time I have been there.

One other comment I would make is that you seem to be equating dancers, escorts and street hustlers as all interchangeable commodities with time spent being the only variable. You are overlooking the quality of the different services these individuals offer.

 

My experience is the dancers are generally very good looking, have great bodies, and large equipment. That is why they feel confident getting on a public stage and displaying their wares to entice clients to the back rooms.

 

Escorts who advertise on the Internet use photos or videos which we all know can be deceptive. Not saying all are but there can be disappointments when you see the equipment up close.

 

And then you refer to street “escorts”. This is not a proper term to use; these are street hustlers and its AYOR if you resort to hiring them.

[BostonTom]

The going rate in Montreal has been $20 a song for at least fifteen years. So given inflation (and the low Canadian dollar) it's a bargain these days (or will be again), particularly for Americans. Your friend was a little naive to think he'd get off with a stripper for $15, but hey, at least he learned his lesson. A few other tips for the less-experienced from someone who's been around the block a few times too often: the stripper isn't going to let you do much in the first dance but get his clothes off - and the lure of "one song only and then I'll see about more" can lead to a pushy or even hostile situation in my experience so I don't really recommend it. You're in this for $40-60 if you want a smooth entrance and exit. Also, some strippers will try to pretend you've gone an extra song. Assess that situation carefully. I usually try to enter the booth at the top of a song and keep track, and when breaking it off say, "So I think that was three songs" or something like that. If they push back too strongly - again, it's really not worth it. Remember strippers are in business, and they're probably not really attracted to you, and they're trying to get as much money out of you as possible with the least effort in the shortest amount of time possible. That's just life. Also remember they talk among themselves about clients, so if you want to be able to pick up the next hot dancer, you may have to part with some cash to keep the last one happy. Also remember there's not supposed to be any actual sex going on in the back room. At Campus the back room largely lacks any privacy at all now, and at Stock the staff sometimes sticks their head in through the curtains. So anything beyond a hand job is very risky. All that said, most strippers in my experience have given me my money's worth. They provide a service much more reliably than, say, waitresses or salespeople! And most are smart, good natured and want to have a good time. Just bring extra cash, don't get too drunk, don't expect the moon, and keep your wits about you.

Edited January 3, 2021 by BostonTom

[+ azdr0710]

$20CAN = $15.71US as of today.

 

When the border opens up again, US citizens, don't be an "ugly American"! You only live once! And if you live it right, once is enough!

[Tweetybird]

That’s never happened to me. The extras though are usually only thrown in, so to speak, after at least 3 songs. Once I get to 5 songs if the extras haven’t happened I terminate the dance.

 

It would be embarrassing if the dancer came up with extra charges afterwards. Not sure how I would respond. It would depend on what club I was in. That would never happen at Campus, imo.

 

I was at Campus on a sunny Sunday afternoon once when a dispute began between a customer and a dancer over the amount of money owed. The customer refused to pay the amount being demanded by the dancer. The bartender who i think was the manager did not get involved and the customer was pushed down the stairs by the dancer and left in a ambulance. The police didn't seem to be interested in taking any action.

So I guess it can happen.

[Luv2play]

I was at Campus on a sunny Sunday afternoon once when a dispute began between a customer and a dancer over the amount of money owed. The customer refused to pay the amount being demanded by the dancer. The bartender who i think was the manager did not get involved and the customer was pushed down the stairs by the dancer and left in a ambulance. The police didn't seem to be interested in taking any action.

So I guess it can happen.

I remember once approaching the entrance to Campus and just as I opened the door this customer came crashing down the stairs, landing in a limp pile at the bottom. Maybe that was the guy pushed down by the dancer.

 

One always has to keep in mind that if it isn’t the dancer, the bouncer might do the same. Unruly customers include those who don’t pay up what they owe and try to argue about it. It is not worth it to act this way. I value my health more than a few lousy bucks someone wants to argue about.

[+ Hoover42]

I remember once approaching the entrance to Campus and just as I opened the door this customer came crashing down the stairs, landing in a limp pile at the bottom. Maybe that was the guy pushed down by the dancer.

 

One always has to keep in mind that if it isn’t the dancer, the bouncer might do the same. Unruly customers include those who don’t pay up what they owe and try to argue about it. It is not worth it to act this way. I value my health more than a few lousy bucks someone wants to argue about.

Those stairs at Campus are deadly even if you're behaving and in the best of health!

[Luv2play]

Those stairs at Campus are deadly even if you're behaving and in the best of health!

They are. You don’t want to be drunk coming down them.

[+ Hoover42]

They are. You don’t want to be drunk coming down them.

I usually start off the day at Campus afternoons, so I'm not hammered yet when I move on to dinner!

[Luv2play]

The going rate in Montreal has been $20 a song for at least fifteen years. So given inflation (and the low Canadian dollar) it's a bargain these days (or will be again), particularly for Americans. Your friend was a little naive to think he'd get off with a stripper for $15, but hey, at least he learned his lesson. A few other tips for the less-experienced from someone who's been around the block a few times too often: the stripper isn't going to let you do much in the first dance but get his clothes off - and the lure of "one song only and then I'll see about more" can lead to a pushy or even hostile situation in my experience so I don't really recommend it. You're in this for $40-60 if you want a smooth entrance and exit. Also, some strippers will try to pretend you've gone an extra song. Assess that situation carefully. I usually try to enter the booth at the top of a song and keep track, and when breaking it off say, "So I think that was three songs" or something like that. If they push back too strongly - again, it's really not worth it. Remember strippers are in business, and they're probably not really attracted to you, and they're trying to get as much money out of you as possible with the least effort in the shortest amount of time possible. That's just life. Also remember they talk among themselves about clients, so if you want to be able to pick up the next hot dancer, you may have to part with some cash to keep the last one happy. Also remember there's not supposed to be any actual sex going on in the back room. At Campus the back room largely lacks any privacy at all now, and at Stock the staff sometimes sticks their head in through the curtains. So anything beyond a hand job is very risky. All that said, most strippers in my experience have given me my money's worth. They provide a service much more reliably than, say, waitresses or salespeople! And most are smart, good natured and want to have a good time. Just bring extra cash, don't get too drunk, don't expect the moon, and keep your wits about you.

I remember when the rate went from $10 to $20; it was in the late 90s I believe. For a time it was $10; in an open arrangement and $20 with more privacy, as I remember. Then it became $20 for any lap dance song.

At Campus they eased the pain by installing better and more booths with more privacy. The dancers and clients could get away with more if they wanted to but stil had to be careful as a staff member would wander back from time to time To check on things.

 

It was around this time that Le Stock opened on Ste Catherine and Montcalm Sts. The old club had been on a side street east of Berri and was actually more fun for someone like me. I had some amazing experiences there..They had a pool table where you could chat up the dancers, like at Campus.

 

I was back at Campus about a year and a half ago and while still fun, not as wild as 20:years ago.

[+ newatthis]

The most common "overcharging" situation for me involves a discrepancy of one song. I let these go, especially since I'm often not 100% certain myself of the count. Variation of this scenario: neither the dancer nor I is sure of the count. Of course this means we've both been very distracted and are, therefore, in a good mood and have no trouble negotiating a fee. A few times, I have realized later that I left the booth without paying and without being reminded and a very embarrassed me seeks out the dancer to rectify the error.

 

I've only had 2 more serious incidents in 17 years, those involving a dancer grossly inflating the count -- the sort where I knew it had been 4 or 5 songs and the dancer claimed 9 or 10. In both I stood my ground and suggested calling the manager. In one case the dancer immediately offered a "compromise" and in the other, the manager backed me up. I'm sure it helped that I am not an unknown quantity to the managers and bartenders.

 

When I first started going to Montreal, I worried a lot about this (mostly because of stories I read here on the MC). But I'd guess that such disagreements have occurred less than 2% of the time.

[mymen]

I recently rejoined stock as a member. Hayden is one of my fav. He has a nice personality. I also like Mattluscious though I haven't seen him perform live since I joined. Will likely visit in person again one of these days.

[mymen]

On 1/3/2021 at 6:57 PM, Luv2play said:

They are. You don’t want to be drunk coming down them.

Literally one of the reasons I don't go there often. There are elevators but you have to wait a long time before someone hears the buzzer. It's been a while since I have been there not sure if things have improved.

[Poppie]

8 hours ago, mymen said:

I recently rejoined stock as a member. Hayden is one of my fav. He has a nice personality. I also like Mattluscious though I haven't seen him perform live since I joined. Will likely visit in person again one of these days.

Just watched the clip of Mattluscious on the Stock website. WOW 😛

[EZEtoGRU]

Watching the Stock web feed this weekend, I see Jasper (yes with the huge cock) is dancing there again.  I don't know when he started back there as I don't watch the feed very frequently lately.  Some of you may remember Jasper as a popular Stock dancer pre-COVID.  He then seemed to have spent some of 2021/2022 in South Florida.  I saw him at Johnson's FTL in early 2022 I believe.  He has lost some of his size but still looks good.  He has pretty long hair now and his cock still gets rock hard on-stage😀. 

Just thought I'd pass on the info.