300 is the new norm

[marylander1940]

Do you cringe making an offer to a real estate agent? A parts purveyor? Are you involved in a small business?

 

It’s not cringe worthy, it’s not disrespectful, it’s not telling them they’re worth less. It’s business.

 

By the way...I don’t want anyone here to think my posts might indicate I don’t respect these providers. Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

There is a growing frustration caused by many factors...that rates are very difficult to pin down, and increasing in many markets.

 

No one...but no one respects these pros more than I do.

 

 

 

Good to know you got me confused with your previous post, I also thought you were only hiring from SA lately.

 

I must have misread you!

[+ Eric Hassan]

Not getting personal to you, by any means. I'm sure you're busy. But what about a guy who asks 300 but immediately will take 250 (but not 200) instead of being idle that hour. My escort friends do this routinely.

 

I really appreciate this response!

 

For me, this is where my "without additional context" caveat comes up. There are tons of reasons that negotiating rates and arrangements makes incredibly good business sense. As some can attest, I'm one of those guys who is very happy to negotiate mutually beneficial arrangements. I also occasionally offer weekday specials and always offer student rates and a home state discount to NH folks.

 

What I was referring to was the out-of-the-blue never-texted-me-before message that asks me if I'll "take 125" or "do half an hour for 50." Yes, those are real messages I got. It's exceedingly rare - those are the only 2 examples I have - but I read the issue to be focused on the question of opening up with negotiation.

 

At the end of the day, there really isn't an answer that is right or wrong. What I've offered is only my experience and what works for me. Other guys might not be so sensitive about it. What I can say that will always go a long way - even if you end up annoying the guy or not getting a deal - is if you approach with respect. It might not go your way but you won't be sorry you were kind!

[+ Eric Hassan]

I find the comparisons in this thread to shopping for commodity goods and services appalling.

 

I get it. What I think is helpful to remember is that this whole escort business thing is difficult for a lot of us to conceptualize and understand in our heads. There's nothing quite like it and nothing similar enough so as to serve as an adequate comparison. Add to that the stigma that surrounds those of us on both sides of the deal and the lack of broad social support for even discussing this topic in healthy ways. Social isolation combined with shame and guilt versus experiences that for many of us are the most intimate, real, and vulnerable times we ever get to have can really fuck with ones mind.

 

Now you get a bunch of us dealing with all of this stuff to some degree or another and put us together on the internet At least we are all still mostly speaking to each other lol

[marylander1940]

I find the comparisons in this thread to shopping for commodity goods and services appalling.

 

Exactly, we're talking about people... and not just any kind of service but a very personal one.

[+ tassojunior]

I really appreciate this response!

 

For me, this is where my "without additional context" caveat comes up. There are tons of reasons that negotiating rates and arrangements makes incredibly good business sense. As some can attest, I'm one of those guys who is very happy to negotiate mutually beneficial arrangements. I also occasionally offer weekday specials and always offer student rates and a home state discount to NH folks.

 

What I was referring to was the out-of-the-blue never-texted-me-before message that asks me if I'll "take 125" or "do half an hour for 50." Yes, those are real messages I got. It's exceedingly rare - those are the only 2 examples I have - but I read the issue to be focused on the question of opening up with negotiation.

 

At the end of the day, there really isn't an answer that is right or wrong. What I've offered is only my experience and what works for me. Other guys might not be so sensitive about it. What I can say that will always go a long way - even if you end up annoying the guy or not getting a deal - is if you approach with respect. It might not go your way but you won't be sorry you were kind!

I help my friends who only speak Czech or Spanish with a lot of their texts and people really do not realize what you guys go through routinely. So many "prospects" just want to talk, or free pics, or recite some fantasy while they are probably masturbating. For every client that comes through there are at least a half dozen who never do for whatever reason, at least in DC.

 

Clients on here complain about how unresponsive providers are to texts but I've seen what a mess of b.s. most texts are. In Prague, Zurich and Miami there are English-speaking agents who do all that filtering and scheduling for 10%. For a busy provider well worth it. But yup, they all ask 300 but have no problem at all with 250 if it's soon and they're free.

 

Maybe those who want reduced prices should try last-minute booking in the next hour or two. But no more than a 50 discount and not past the current day.

 

As personal as it seems to the client it's not so much to the provider in reality. It's a livelihood.

Edited February 6, 2019 by tassojunior

[marylander1940]

 

 

 

Self righteous, judgmental people always abound. They are so in need to look down at others that they cannot even read. I mean, read and understand what actually was written. Do not waste your time, friend. Just ignore them.

 

Funny how someone can call others judgmental while being judgmental.

 

you can't ignore, you're always taking a peek...

 

[marylander1940]

I help my friends who only speak Czech or Spanish with a lot of their texts and people really do not realize what you guys go through routinely. So many "prospects" just want to talk, or free pics, or recite some fantasy while they are probably masturbating. For every client that comes through there are at least a half dozen who never do for whatever reason, at least in DC.

 

Clients on here complain about how unresponsive providers are to texts but I've seen what a mess of b.s. most texts are. In Prague, Zurich and Miami there are English-speaking agents who do all that filtering and scheduling for 10%. For a busy provider well worth it. But yup, they all ask 300 but have no problem at all with 250 if it's soon and they're free.

 

Maybe those who want reduced prices should try last-minute booking in the next hour or two. But no more than a 50 discount and not past the current day.

 

Those time wasters feel powerful controlling someone bothering him by text.

 

Fantasy? They're just jerking off while texting.

[+ tassojunior]

Those time wasters feel powerful controlling someone bothering him by text.

 

Fantasy? They're just jerking off while texting.

 

So many times I've seen my friends do a huge eyeroll and sigh when they realize the guy who's been texting back and forth for 15 minutes, and maybe got a quick dick pic, is just masturbating to the conversation. That humiliated look of realization you've wasted your time and been used.

 

Compared to that someone who quickly asks "can we do 250 in an hour" is a saint.

Edited February 6, 2019 by tassojunior

[GTMike]

 

I have a lot of respect for sex workers. (Yes i share your sentiment)

 

I'm a firm believer things should be legal as it would help provide protection for client and provider a like.

(Yes i agree 100% giving due to respect to the "pro's and con's" but on balance, i believe that it would help solve numerous problems if the industry is properly and correctly structured.)

 

I cringe a bit when I hear people talk about trying to bargain with providers. I see it as an insult to them. It's like telling someone they or their time is not worth it.

( I can see how in some circumstances that can be the case but i generally disagree there. I've never had someone take offense from bargaining except one gentlemen who wanted $2,500 for an overnight. Actually I'm wrong. We ended up speaking for at least another 1/2 hour after we agreed to disagree, hahaha. For me, i think a lot depends on full context and specific situations. In my previous comments i could've provided more context and failed to mention that I always host in a very clean very disarming fun environment, always offer to provide Uber transportation to and from the appointment at their discretion, and if the meeting is 3 hours or greater always offer and provide a meal. At least from my experiences, the providers I've met happily repeat even as we negotiate time and rates and contact me for future appointments as much as i do them.)

 

Just my 2 pence. (Yes all good, i respect that and likewise)

[+ kov78]

Thanks for that. I have to agree with everything you said. Putting things in context is something I should have done. Every situation is different. Thanks man. I appreciate your input !

[excelntsvc]

context is everything; if I feel someone's rate is beyond what i'm willing to pay, I simply say so … if they are open to negotiation fine, if not, well there are other providers out there

[+ José Soplanucas]

Thank you guys, for inspiring this post.

[+ funguy86]

When you contact them, tell you are responding to their ad in Mintboys or Friendboy. Often they have different pricing. Actually, I am making an assumption here. I do know from personal experience that when a professional advertises in A4A and in RM, I get lower quotes if I say I am responding the A4A ad. I am assuming that it may be the same in MB and FB cases.

I found this out the hard way. A provider I had my eye on in RM started advertising on FB. I saw the price and thought I would take the plunge. I contacted him through RM cause I am a member there. The price he quoted me was $80 dollars higher. I was caught off guard and declined. He asked if it was because of cost and I told him I saw his price on FB. To his credit he offered to meet for the FB price but by then I felt I would be cheating him and felt embarrassed because I felt like I was haggling over price. Lesson learned.

[mlscott]

Have you found that escorts will usually offer a lower rate for multiple hours (ie 300 first hour, 500 for two hours). I inquired to an escort who answered his rate was $300/hr times the number of hours.

[cany10011]

I found this out the hard way. A provider I had my eye on in RM started advertising on FB. I saw the price and thought I would take the plunge. I contacted him through RM cause I am a member there. The price he quoted me was $80 dollars higher. I was caught off guard and declined. He asked if it was because of cost and I told him I saw his price on FB. To his credit he offered to meet for the FB price but by then I felt I would be cheating him and felt embarrassed because I felt like I was haggling over price. Lesson learned.

 

 

I’ve noticed some discrepancy between FB and RM prices. Also, perhaps some ads lack pricing info so the provider can adjust his pricing according to demand/location/specific requests...

[+ keroscenefire]

Thank you guys, for inspiring this post.

 

Interesting post LatBear. I do think it is partially a cultural thing. I actually had a regular once who was originally from the Middle East. I met up with him once for his original price of $250 and we had a fantastic time. However I stopped hitting him up because I ended up finding another regular who charged $220 and just kind of stuck with him. One time, he saw that I clicked on his profile and he e-mailed me (nicely) asking why I stopped contacting him. I told him the truth...that while I loved our time together, I've kind of been sticking with a regular that charges a bit less. He responded with something like, "Oh why didn't you just tell me that earlier. I definitely could've matched that price. That's not a problem at all." So I ended up having two regulars after that for a bit...until they both moved away sadly.

Edited February 8, 2019 by keroscenefire

[Maverick3169]

THIS guy quoted me 350 for a one-hour incall in NYC. Nice guy, attractive,he was quick in sending me face pics and some nudes but … 350?

 

https://rent.men/AyFun/

He is gorgeous but quoted me $400

[MiamiLooker]

Some posts in this thread reminded me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPQDP4PUkOA

[marylander1940]

He is gorgeous but quoted me $400

 

Maybe he just wants to have 2 or 3 clients a week, who knows but if he thinks he needs more money for his bills (and hopefully to save for the future) he'll lower his price.

Edited February 7, 2019 by marylander1940

[marylander1940]

Some posts in this thread reminded me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPQDP4PUkOA

 

I couldn't agree with you more! Is hard to believe bargain hunters feel empowered by the chase, I think they're just desperate looking for approval.

Maybe it's baggage?

 

Btw I love payless but I don't treat folks like merchandise.

[down_to_business]

Brand new guy in LA just quoted me $500. It's getting to be a joke. I didn't even bother to respond. Too bad because I think he is hot.

 

Guess its a bargain compared to this one on friendboy.. https://friendboy.pro/boys/CyberAltBro

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

This thread should ideally be retitled 'Carping is the new norm'

 

Edited February 8, 2019 by Benjamin_Nicholas

[+ tassojunior]

A year from now we'll be moaning about 400 and the year after 500. Females have been getting this for a while.

Guys are just saying #MeToo.

[Guest gapguy]

Do any of the guys who ask for $350 or $40 ping you a day later with a lower rate (presumably when depend proves to be lower)

[BaronArtz]

He is gorgeous but quoted me $400

 

Jeez ... I know he has a bit of a following on Instagram, 151K followers to be exact. He must think he is a celebrity or something? I recently got a message from him on RM - he said he doesn't like this forum because it potentially messes with his 'business model'.

 

Some of the providers seem to think they are above the competition!