300 is the new norm

[+ Pensant]

but for many of us there simply is nothing finer than Bel Ami guys. And David (Roald Ekberg) is consistently the #1 experience for those of us who have sampled a lot. He's matured from a long-haired kid to a Nordic muscle god power bottom. And nicest guy ever with most beautiful smile and eyes. Passionate kisser....Impossible to understand until you've experienced him. He had several repeats twice a week for 5 weeks and it was ridiculous how guys were begging for repeats. He is addictive.... Tom Jacobs is a cute little guy with beautiful face and a real sweetheart. ........I would totally pass on Romania and Bulgaria. Ask others.

With great discernment, Romania and Bulgaria offer some gems. The Romanians, in particular, bristle when a Westerner conflates an ethnic Romanian with a member of the Roma community.

[rossthebosssf]

300 is the norm even for average providers. Even Seeking Arrangement guys are getting on the bandwagon. Produces more of a one off situation vs ongoing which is what an arrangement should be.

 

I don't think it's appropriate to negotiate unless the provider initiates the conversation (even then I'd be cautious). The only time I'll directly negotiate is for an extended appointment. Newbies do not understand multi hour pricing and if someone is being obnoxious about overnight rates (over $1500), I will mention what I'm willing to offer. So far it's worked out. No one can feel cheated making $1500 in 12 or so hours.

[MiamiLooker]

The truth is that "300 is the new norm" is a well spread myth.

+1

I've been hiring well over 25 years. I recently hired the hottest guy (he's at least among my top 3 ever) I found on Doublelist. His requested fee was less than $100, and that was to travel to me about 40 minutes away from his home.

[+ MasssageGuy]

+1

I've been hiring well over 25 years. I recently hired the hottest guy (he's at least among my top 3 ever) I found on Doublelist. His requested fee was less than $100, and that was to travel to me about 40 minutes away from his home.

Not familiar with Doublelist. Can you fill us in?

[+ tassojunior]

Yes.......Want 2 know 2 ! Plz

 

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[Fyton]

Offer 200, then metaphorically walk away. Many will be reasonable.

[MikeBiDude]

Not familiar with Doublelist. Can you fill us in?

Doublelist...at least in my area....is a useless attempt at replacing Craigslist personals. I’ve had zero luck

[marylander1940]

+1

I've been hiring well over 25 years. I recently hired the hottest guy (he's at least among my top 3 ever) I found on Doublelist. His requested fee was less than $100, and that was to travel to me about 40 minutes away from his home.

 

If you care for him tell him to join RM and make a living (and a future) out of his hobby

[+ HornyRetiree]

Not familiar with Doublelist. Can you fill us in?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Checked it out and it might work for local connections now that Craigslist has been killed.

[DMICS]

Doublelist...at least in my area....is a useless attempt at replacing Craigslist personals. I’ve had zero luck

 

I've barely had any success with Doublelist...nowhere near the daily success I had with Craigslist. Shut down pretty much ruined my play life.

[Wanderoz]

The problem at $300 is that tips disappear.

[coriolis888]

 

Good chance if you go into a meeting thinking the encounter isn’t “likely to be as good” due to negotiation....there’s a better than 50% chance YOU are bringing that expectation to the negotiated meeting.

 

 

Exactly.

 

My experience of being told that I did not pay the "full" price resulted in an escort saying he would only do very little because of his "alleged discount" for me. The price I paid was still high, it just was not as high as the escort initially asked.

 

That was a learning experience that taught me well.

 

I now ask the price - if it is reasonable, I say yes. If too high, I remember the incident noted in my first paragraph and say, thanks but no thanks.

 

Fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice, shame on me.

[coriolis888]

 

The truth is that "300 is the new norm" is a well spread myth. Therefore, many are asking for 300 just because it feels like what you are supposed to do.

 

 

I agree -

[+ José Soplanucas]

I’ve found that with particularly younger and hotter providers, the $300 rate becomes $500 foot two hours and everyone is happy!

You can do better. I am getting 250 for two hours.

[marylander1940]

This thread has become a race to the bottom a reversed auction with guys bragging about how little they pay...

 

I'm not surprised some of them say the poor, young students, unemployed, minorities, etc. * deserve better but they're willing to exploit escorts and get a better deal and brag about it as a personal victory.

 

 

 

http://alabama200.org/uploads/curricular_resources/_detail/Slave_auction_in_Montgomery_Alabama.jpg

 

This post is so enlightening on the subject!

 

As a client, I am often irritated by the many different restrictions on potential communications between myself and a potential provider. Some say do not call, text only, others say no emails, some say only emails no text. Etc Etc. All the while I grumble, "but wait...don't you want my custom?"

 

Recently I found some very expensive but poorly chosen bespoke computer equipment ( at the time in 2010 $5k per system) in my closet that I was going to put on the curb. My Husband, after making some choice comments on my judgement, persuaded me to try out eBay and sell the parts. I have never even bought anything on ebay.

 

Without going into boring details, after setting what I thought were reasonable very discounted prices based on similar items for sale, I have been bombarded with a torrent of emails which I initially started to dutifully respond. But it is never ending, some people dickering over $1.00 on a $20 component, pointing out the most insignificant variance. On the times I just acquiesced and said fine your price- they didn't even buy it then!

 

Perhaps many/most are well intentioned and just need a little information, but it is overwhelming. The irony is I can't imagine if these emails were over something so personal as companionship or sex! It has been an educational experience for me. I guess I am a bit sheltered in not having this experience before. In my company, people only email me with inquiries that are well thought out and I don't have to go back and forth so often. A call really can weed out the chafe and get to the point. The second computer is going straight to our local tech school...maybe someone there can do something with it, but I won't be taking that one apart.

 

Thanks to all who endure us

 

*I'm not saying most escorts are either poor, students, minority, etc. Get the metaphore!

[kjb176]

You can do better. I am getting 250 for two hours.

Where is your geographic area?

[+ José Soplanucas]

Where is your geographic area?

 

Washington DC.

[+ Axiom2001]

Where is your geographic area?

 

In San Francisco the rate varies. Many of the guys in whom I'm interested have a fee of $250. I try to avoid paying $300, especially to a "new kid on the block" or a completely unknown, for I have been hiring for too long as I care to remember.

[bostonman]

Washington DC.

 

Have the congressional pages gone up that much?? :eek:

[+ José Soplanucas]

I just checked my reviews. The last time I paid 300 was April 2018, in Palm Springs. Since then, the only time I have considered paying that amount was when Krave Melanin visited DC. Definitely, what I am getting for 120 an hour is way better than what I have ever gotten at 300.

 

Before last April, I think I paid 300 for Sean Xavier. He used to be my favorite porn star, and our encounters were just as good as his movies. I would do it again, but I am aware I am just paying for the brand. The beauty and the quality of the engagements I am getting bellow 200 are just as good, or even better, than a Sean Xavier experience.

 

I want to be extra clear about one thing. I am not criticizing providers who charge 300 and higher. Good for them. What I am questioning is this "300 is the norm" myth. Indeed, there are many guys who charge 300, but there are also many who charge way above and way below that rate. The escorting market is very diverse in all aspects, prices included.

 

As every market, there are prices for all the clients willing to pay. There are wealthy guys that can afford to pay thousands as a tip. There are also clients like me. I make less than 100K per year, living in an expensive metropolitan area. I do not enjoy hiring a few times per year. The way I enjoy our hobby is hiring several times a month. As I am sure I am representative of many clients, there are plenty of awesome professionals willing to take the money we can pay.

Edited February 5, 2019 by latbear4blk

[+ goosh69]

No multi-hour discounts?

 

~Boomer~

I never have trouble re-booking a guy, maybe because they know I’m not cheap and don’t brag about how little I pay. Snark. But also, seriously, they’re not clock watchers either with me. I GUESS I could bargain but I like the ridiculously good looking ones. THe literal models and hot d-list reality stars and guys with lots of social media followers.

[GTMike]

$300 has been the norm for hot escorts in NY and LA etc forever. I always get 2 hours so really $600. But I’m super picky and sometimes go even higher. But only get like absurdly hot model types rom literal models.

 

I honestly am super picky as well primarily because of what i look for, which admittedly is in the minority of most clients. In LA I've found that even escorts who quote as high as $450/hour when meeting for the first time, will also do $500 - $600 for two hours, $700 - $750 for three hours and then $1,200 - $1,500 for an overnight (12 hours plus). And yes that is high for most (perhaps low for a few others).

 

I quite often am quoted higher but haven't ultimately paid more than $300/hour on average. But my intent going into it is to repeat and we always figure something out and come to an arrangement on mutually agreeable terms.

 

In my experience if you become very interested in someone specifically, done your homework and pretty much know from communication and/or reviews etc.. that you're a good match expectations wise, it's worth it in the long run to pay more for the 1st encounter to establish trustworthiness and reliability. I've found then that we both mutually feel comfortable negotiating from there on out on a go forward basis.

[RM]

He's fairly new to the site if I'm not mistakeb. He does have a huge IG following. ( No I'm not sending it to anyone). He really is quite beautiful

What's IG?

[marylander1940]

What's IG?

 

 

[MikeBiDude]

What's IG?

Instagram