Jarrod_Uncut

Wow.  Everyone stays somewhere, even if they're home.  Perhaps this is someone who might not be comfortable supplying personal information, if the answer to the initial question is unsatisfactory.  Perhaps that's why no intro and why he's using RM messaging.  He's not asking for an address, but most likely a part of town.  In a large metropolitan area, it matters to many of us and could be a deal killer.  By getting it out of the way early, this is the opposite of a game player.  I see this as someone who is asking a legitimate question and not getting an answer. 
As to the OP's question, if I took the time to reach out to a potential provider and got an auto-reply and nothing else, I would probably move on.  To me, it says "I don't want to deal with you unless I have to." 

I actually changed jobs and made it so I could not travel to my guys, and to my surprise they were cool with traveling 90 minutes to meet me where I am now.  I thought that was really cool of then.  Of course I tip extra because I appreciate them doing that.

This may not pertain to those who have limited or no nudes posted: but in my case I already have an array of pics and people still ask me for private pics without even greeting me.
I stopped unlocking pics long time ago. The requests get my auto reply with all relevant information. If and when RM decide to pay us to have our private gallery unlocked, then I’ll entertain. For now, it’s just simply MY private gallery where I release pics I want to move to public, and rotate out.
 
But I had to go thru last year and deny like hundreds of requests to unlock…many who have no picture of their own.
My business is not a free peep show. Even though, for the most part they are getting exactly that. But I just try to stay true to the game and still show people what is relevant. 
And majority never do. That’s the sad part about it. And the ones who do text, 99/100 be playing games too. That’s why I had to revamp my auto reply as stated to eliminate ANY possible confusion or non sense:

 
like huh? Who said I was staying anywhere? No introduction or anything. Like I’m just supposed to give out an address? This is why they get auto responses. 

Very few providers are literally available now when the status says so.  Most need at least two hour notice (which is fine).  Some say they are not available for the day, after I inquire.  I wish there were more specific statuses, like available today, for instance.

This is what I assume when I see the green light - that the provider is available to communicate, and may have times later on, but isn't necessarily going to be available for an appointment right away. As one provider rather angrily let me know several years ago, "we aren't all sitting around reading a newspaper, waiting for you to call."

That’s how I felt about St. Louis…
I had fun here and there, but the past few months have almost been a waste of time to even stay. I left behind 0 true friends and only a couple true regulars. It’s a lot of fake nice, and last week I reached out to a previous client letting him know I was in town available: he tells me “I knows you’re in town, you don’t have to contact me, I’m not available”. Well he’s right, I won’t be contacting him again because I won’t be back anytime soon ✌

No, I get it.  Zum beispsiel, I've entirely fallen, largely, out of love with NYC, a place I once felt was ideal.  Opinions change, feelings sour...and fester...and ooze...and pop :-)  
p.s. I love "sharp stick" not just stick.  Nicely done.
p.p.s. I don't know what is up with my off-topic stuff the last couple days.  Sorry about that.  Back to the certified-fresh topic of rising rates :-)

This is all relevant however, even outside of LA and New York, some of the same scenarios are playing out. I notice for example in the Midwest: many ethnic/minorities tend to marry/get involved with White guys who have money instead of escort. I notice it a lot.
 
As for gay guys with discretionary income: meh. The problem is, many of those don’t want to spend it on sex. Many will play like they don’t have money to give, but then turn around and spend thousands on trips and other things with friends. I’ve said it elsewhere here, but I’ve started to realize selling *** is hard. Not because they don’t want me, but because getting the rate I want…And at a time that is convenient for both. 
Regardless, I’m looking for alternatives to the big cities. I don’t want a rural town necessarily because, that’s the position I’m in now and NOBODY wants to pay for it out here. I’m always having to commute to the city. But they always want same day/short notice meets, and I can’t work like that everyday.

Everybody charges whatever they can get away with.  Basically sites like OF and JFF have liberated organized sex workers.  They have steady streams of income and can pick and choose if they even want to do "in person" sex work anymore. 
Gay men, generally speaking, have a lot of discretionary income.  The boys know it and charge accordingly.  If a guy is hot for you, you have to strike in the initial moment.  I'd have totally become a sex worker in my youth if I had the resources available to me that exist now. 
Trust and believe also, the more a queen can/will pay, the more obnoxious and demanding they probably are.  So per usual in the gay "community" the pretty boys are all fucking each other and loving it and the rich gays get the cream of the crop. 
Work a day fellas are basically just out of the online gay hiring game now, except for the random street meat you can still find on the ground occasionally.  BUT, not every guy can demand $300 and up and make any money.  And there are only so many rich guys tricking at any given time.  Many are in steady sugar relationships.  I'm definitely always looking for the humble, discreet, more rural provider who likes the game and depends more on volume than anything else. 
Fuck LA and NYC, both are just out of control and ridiculous, lol.  LIfe is much better in the hinterlands.  I'd rather put up with a little cold weather a couple months a year and an affordable cost of living year round than deal with the level of narcissism those environments encourage and allow any day.  Also, thank goodness I'm old and my sex drive died so I'm rarely even looking any more.

One thing I wish many clients would understand: don’t try to come around months later expecting someone to be charging to same price that you FLAKED OUT on in the past. For example, there’s imbecile who has the audacity to bring up a previous conversation that he never bothered to show up for:
 

 
 
That is why I’m moving my rates up. The less I have to deal with these cheapskate imbeciles who think $150 and $200 is a universal rate, the better. Only consistent regulars deserve discounts! And I’m not talking about some random who only comes around once or twice a year and think he’s a deserving of a discount. If you local, you need to be meeting every couple weeks or at least once a month.

Bitch, he didn’t ask you he was asking me. WTF is your point? 🤦🏾‍♂️ 

lol this didn’t require a cross examination. I know what I’m talking about. Many are Indians from India 🇮🇳 That’s a well known fact. YOU KNOW I’ll quote more articles to backup what I’m saying lol. I never said nationality mattered. I’m specifically talking about Indians who run majority of the hotels in the network I book. I know they’re often from Indian, and it’s no diss towards Indians. It just happens to be the majority who own the hotels in America. It’s facts, not prejudice:
And for your information, the ones in hospitality not always ”politically correct “ to us either. I don’t know how Black Americans/Africans are treated or viewed in India, but I have seen how some of the Indian hoteliers can be in areas of certain communities.  I have seen them run hotels in every state. I’ve had to ask them to change certain items that appeared not clean, and they get an attitude with me because I have a standard for cleanliness they maybe aren’t used to some guests asking for. Lots of stains on the chair? Switch me a new one. Room has an off smell? Change me to a new one. I’ve even been told I can check out if I don’t like it. 
So how can you be so politically correct about what I refer to them as? lol. You are getting a bit technical with the whole ”they might not be from India” lecture. I doubt even they would be arguing with me about their nationality 😆 
 
Indian-Americans Own 60 Percent Of Hotel Industry In U.S. - TheUNN
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How Indian Americans Came to Run Half of All U.S. Motels
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For the most part, I usually rarely ever have issues with the hotel staff or changing rooms. I’ve seen difficult customers in public, I’m not one of them. I’m quicker to walk away from a situation or just avoid it all together. My past several nights of hotel stats have been pleasant, the situation I described was last month, and was just an example of the potential inconveniences that are caused with early check in times. But even being nice and courteous still doesn’t guarantee much later than 12 or 1 p.m. checkout. I’ve tried it before. The Indian clerks don’t care, they’ll give me 30 extra minutes to checkout, and consider that to be generous.
The only time I’ll get personal, is I feel someone seems to be disregarding my loyalty status. Because they should acknowledge that loyalty. In the original situation, I was treated like some bum off the street (and in that area of town, I noticed some of the guests were kinda sketchy even for a business level hotel)…Not a Diamond member from out of state who was feeling ill the day before. THAT, is the difference.
 

Again, let’s not take something out of context and turn it into a new discussion about immigration. You can make a new thread if you wish, but considering it’s political it might be closed 🙂 
By cheap, I don’t mean Indians themselves (I have had a few such clients myself). I refer to it as it relates to the HOTEL industry. And yes, most times I deal with Indian front desk clerks, they always come off wanting to give me the least they can during my stay. For example I stayed at one hotel in a small historic town that had cheese omelets 🍳 made fresh. Great right? But it was ONLY cheese omelets, nothing else. When I asked if there was an additional topping I could add, the Indian guy was like, “this is econo lodge, not Hampton inn” 😮 Like geez…
Its that type of attitude, I refer to. 

And here’s another thing I found about the hotel chain I book thru: they say on here we can request 2 extra hours late checkout as Diamond member.
When I stayed in Memphis last week for one night, their checkout time was 11 a.m. and I even asked the night before AND the morning of for a later checkout…he only wanted to give me 11:30 a.m. 🤦🏾‍♂️ I had just barely squeezed in time to do laundry the night before, so I have clothes unpacked or set out to finish drying.
 
That’s what I’m saying, many of these hotels don’t honor the loyalty programs perks. They’re run by cheap Indians with bad customer service (not intending to be racist but, it’s often encountered). Then they want us to be up at 9 a.m. for some lousy breakfast that wasn’t even worth waking up for in the first place. 

The clients offering advice are often doing so from a position of ignorance about the business. Yes they might have hired, but that’s not a qualification to understand what it’s like to be hired. I’ve eaten fabulous meals in restaurants but I wouldn’t profess that that qualifies me to tell the chef how to run their kitchen. 
If offered the advice I receive it with grace, and ignore it. I’ll take advice from those who have walked in my shoes. 
 

There's certainly great need for a website like that. Plenty of no shows and time wasters!

I’d even go a step further and say: I’m not super familiar with the current state of the restaurant industry but: it def seems they are some of the few places that can get by on this supposed “tight” economy. Most places around town are buzzing for Sunday brunch, dinner, etc. 
Meanwhile I feel escort stuff is lagging. Even if there’s clients hiring, there’s still a lot of guys to choose from: and me and a client advisor were just having a discussion tonight, it’s more than what seems sustainable.
I’m considering setting my sights on culinary, but I seen the nitty gritty working at restaurants (watching stuff like Hell’s Kitchen and kitchen nightmares are good examples lol). It seems safer to be an escort than a flight attendant, and less abuse than working at a restaurant. My clients would never get away with the language Gordon Ramsay uses 👋🏽 😂 

 

But yet, so many do the exact thing that pushes people to do exactly that smh 🤦🏾‍♂️, example (me in blue):
 


I’m just ranting but, this is the type of stuff I come across and what I mentioned about “fragile client ego”. It’s so many things wrong with this conversation:
#1: why is he texting me at 1 and 3 a.m. with advice unsolicited anyway? 

#2: It’s been almost 2 weeks since he replied to my last message, from when he was emailing me trying to figure out where did I go (I went away b/c I got tired of dealing with dweebs like him that proliferate that city’s client market).
The audacity of some. It’s crazy how people expect so much positivity out of us, yet some of the main ones keeping up the most drama and animosity be the clients. I’m at peace in my zone, not even in the same city…and he’s harassing me over something I don’t even know what he’s talking about. I haven’t even seen him since January…2 months? 🤦🏾‍♂️ And this is somebody who on our first (and last) meet paid for an overnight, but I noticed he was going a bit too heavy on the 🚬 and may explain the late night courage.
There needs to be a client review website, otherwise I’m about to come up with a page myself. And Twitter is a good 🎺, but I notice some people get scared off when I post warnings. However, the ones who are legit know better and do their best not to end up on it in the 1st place.

Amongst a subset of clients, there are what I call 'the savers.'  Guys who offer a lot of unsolicited advice in order to 'save' you from making mistakes, running a better business or because they somehow think you can't keep your shit together.
I had a lot of those when I was younger.  It was annoying then.  It's annoying now.
In knowing people, you know immediately when it's genuine and well-meaning or if it's a power play.
I'm sorry you're dealing with shit like this.
 

But yet, so many do the exact thing that pushes people to do exactly that smh 🤦🏾‍♂️, example (me in blue):
 


I’m just ranting but, this is the type of stuff I come across and what I mentioned about “fragile client ego”. It’s so many things wrong with this conversation:
#1: why is he texting me at 1 and 3 a.m. with advice unsolicited anyway? 

#2: It’s been almost 2 weeks since he replied to my last message, from when he was emailing me trying to figure out where did I go (I went away b/c I got tired of dealing with dweebs like him that proliferate that city’s client market).
The audacity of some. It’s crazy how people expect so much positivity out of us, yet some of the main ones keeping up the most drama and animosity be the clients. I’m at peace in my zone, not even in the same city…and he’s harassing me over something I don’t even know what he’s talking about. I haven’t even seen him since January…2 months? 🤦🏾‍♂️ And this is somebody who on our first (and last) meet paid for an overnight, but I noticed he was going a bit too heavy on the 🚬 and may explain the late night courage.
There needs to be a client review website, otherwise I’m about to come up with a page myself. And Twitter is a good 🎺, but I notice some people get scared off when I post warnings. However, the ones who are legit know better and do their best not to end up on it in the 1st place.

Blacklists still exist, a few of them as invite only message boards. 
Mr Number has so little detailed info that I wouldn't consider it much of a resource. There's talk the app developer is going to change that in the next few updates. 
Bottom line, if you're screwing escorts over (or.worse), there are more than enough well-connected people on social media to warn others and pass along information. 
The last thing anyone wants is having their personal info put onto a feed that has 100k followers. 

I just read all the posts in this thread, and my new rule is:
 
ABSOLUTELY NO DEPOSIT.
EVER.
(Unless I'm hiring Jarrod_Uncut or BenjaminNicholas.)
 

Good idea. I said the same thing last week when someone reached out asking if I could drive to a town an hour north of a city I was visiting, to see him. But then I asked for a deposit, and he’s like “no I been burned before.” So I said: well no, I can’t see you then. 
But guess what? I’ve been burned before too. We’re both taking similar risks, there’s no reason I can think of that I need to shoulder the heavier burden of it by driving out of my way, or when renting rooms to host. Lot of hotels these days, it costs $150/$200 just to use a room for one night, by the time the added “deposit” that the hotel requires is added. 
 
If a client says they aren’t comfortable/don’t feel like sending deposits, they have to consider the upfront stuff we to have to spend to entertain. Clients aren’t the only ones who can get scammed. 
If a provider has a standing in-call spot he also lives in, or works for a company that fronts their travel and hotel cost: maybe clients who show up are just a perk and it might not be a big loss if they don’t show up.
 
In my case, I’m going full time hotel hosting starting this week until I find my next city to move to…so, it’s hardly an option to do without.

Well in my case, there is no moving expenses because from the start I kept it light. All I brung fits in my vehicle, everything else is just the furnishings that were already at the place.
As for it being everywhere, that is true but: considering it’s the highest in the nation is alarming. Just goes to show because almost every time I name a rate, it’s a discussion about affordability. Some places can be obliterated by price increases. I’ve said it before about Denver: I used to make a decent bank in the 2010s era, when prices went up steeply: business got slower and slower and  eventually died out. Now, every dude and his grandmother is trying to do escorting and it’s no longer viable to me. Seen the same thing in Nashville, except Nashville is almost surpassing Denver in terms of wealth and development due to its becoming the next “Beverly hills of the South” (move over Atlanta lol)
 
This is why I’m leaning towards becoming either a $500+ provider or stick with $150 as a baseline because: $250/$300 may be doable for some but still out of range for most. So at the lower price, it’s no guarantee volume is going to go up.
My last two bookings have been $500, and even though things have been slow coming out of February (from my research, is a slow month for some in the industry, especially if you’re not in snowbird central e.g. Palm Springs, Florida or Arizona).. At least with each booking I was able to get what I needed to have done. If I did the same bookings for just $150 or even $200, it would not be the same.