Jamie21

Me too…that’s an exchange I’d have given up on much earlier. Those kind of enquiries almost always are timewasters.

Oh like a party invitation. I guess they managed the ratio of tops to bottoms too. How civilised.

Really?? How did they check on arrival at the island?

There’s a fine, but distinct line between talking about the activities you like and your expectations and sex talk. The former is welcomed the latter is annoying and I close it down quickly. I like clients to share with me some of their preferences (not all…some of the fun is discovery) but sex talk is always indicative of him cancelling before the session. So ask, explain, share your likes etc but keep your underwear on and both hands on your phone when doing it. A good provider will appreciate that.

I don’t travel…I’m always and only available in London and yet I still get messages from guys in random towns in the US asking for an out call…

Sorry to hear the OP’s news. I get all sorts of reasons given for cancelling from the dramatic to the mundane. If it’s a regular well it’s no big deal, I believe them whatever they say because I know them. Even if they cancel for a different reason they gave me it doesn’t matter. All I need to know is they’re cancelling and I’d prefer to know that asap. All you need to say is “hi sorry but I have to cancel”. The only time I’d be glad to hear the reason is if they’re cancelling because they are too nervous to come, maybe it’s their first time or they are anxious about being with a guy or whatever. If that’s the case then I’d rather know than hear some made up excuse because if I know then there’s probably something I can do that will help them get over the anxiety. I can usually tell when someone books if they’re likely to be the anxious kind and often my hunch is correct and the night before their booking they’ll message saying they want to cancel with some illness or work excuse. I’ll reply giving them the opportunity to explain, something like “oh sorry to hear that I hope all ok. Let me know if you’d like to reschedule or if you have any questions or concerns”. That gives them the opening to share more, if they want to. But otherwise who am I to second guess why someone cancels or to disbelieve them? It’s their issue, I just move on. There’s always more clients.

Thank God he didn’t need a number two.

Me too. He contacted you unsolicited. There’s no reason to reply. Just delete his message and forget it. If he continues to leave you on the mailing list just block his number. I personally don’t use the ‘hey want to hire me again?’ approach because I don’t travel so I’m not able to use the I’m in your area excuse. Plus I don’t like the implied neediness in the approach. If they liked me they’ll book again, if not they won’t. It’s their choice. I’m not chasing business.

That’s interesting. I don’t hire, I provide… but I’d have thought that the uncertainty was all part of the anticipation especially if you’re meeting someone new. Will it be good or will it be not so good? Having that period of time last a day or more would build the anticipation and excitement. Probably raise expectations too. Of course you want the balance to be on the side of ‘it will probably be awesome’ so if his offering sounds enticing then you’re 75% hoping for awesome but as with anything new there’s a possibility it’s meh or 💩. Those meh experiences serve to contrast the 😍 experiences. And the 💩 are stories to tell your friends in the pub. I have some clients who book months ahead…(usually visitors to London) and they say “I’ve been looking forward to this for ages”. All that build up of anticipation is sweet. I like to make it worth the wait for them..so they book again. Other clients book at short notice (usually an hour or so) and that’s cool too but I can’t help thinking they miss out on the build up and treat it like a quick take away meal rather than a special dinner. There’s a time and place for both but my preference is usually for the special dinner. Deferred gratification is something to be valued in my experience. I think Amazon Prime has a lot to answer for!

I’m never available now. The best is 2 hours notice. I’m not hanging around all day on the off chance someone might want a massage…I’ve got stuff to do!! Also, it’s likely that those 11pm at night ‘are you available now?’ type of clients are usually difficult. I turn down 3 or 4 requests a week from clients looking for very short notice bookings. Yesterday someone asked if I was available now at 11pm. I was in bed ready to sleep…so I said ‘no sorry but I can do tomorrow afternoon’. He said he’d contact me today to confirm, but without making any booking. Today he messaged at 2pm to ask what time I was free. As I’d not heard anything from him I’d made other plans and told him sorry I was now busy. He said ‘but you said you were available’. Well yes, I was yesterday but as I didn’t hear from you I made other plans. Had he booked last night or even this morning I’d have been available.

Yes it does with some clients. I can tell when there’s a lot going on in their head, there’s clear signs both before they get on the table and during. It could be to do with emotions around shame and guilt or simply anxiety if they’re new to this kind of thing or about doing something illicit and edgy. Before the massage I ask a few questions about injuries, areas to avoid, preferences and I give them an opportunity to ask me questions. I tell them it’s fine to interact with me as much or as little as they like. Occasionally clients will tell me a bit about why they’ve come and then I can understand how they might react on the table but that’s rare. Usually they don’t have questions. Although as a sensual masseur I’m working on their body I know that the work I’m really doing is on their head, in their brain. That’s the difference between a therapist masseur and a sensual masseur. The former works the body only. The latter works the body (and creates the environment) AND the mind to get the client to a sexual climax. In most instances if you’re doing that well you can get them to a state where all that ‘noise’ going on in their brain is drowned out and they can simply enjoy the moment. That doesn’t mean they have to reciprocate (in fact I usually prefer not too much reciprocation) but if they are in the right headspace then they won’t be able to control (or even be aware of) their physical reactions. So that’s why I look for some kind of physical reaction. It’s external proof that I’ve done the job of getting in their mind. The sex organ I focus on is in their head not their pants.

This guy is great. I’ve not hired him (I know him because I’ve filmed with him) and I can say he’s got a great body and is a really friendly and sexy guy. https://rent.men/JohnnyTy

And we try to recreate those memories of first times…but somehow it’s never quite the same. I remember the brilliant colour of the island; dazzling white buildings, the tone of the blues which doesn’t seem to exist anywhere else, the ocean reflecting rippled sunlight back to the beach as boats drifted past, the welcome cooling breeze on my skin and the simplicity of lying naked on the beach with just the sound of the waves and indistict chat from those I shared this idyll with. I remember walking along the beach at the water’s edge because the dry sand was too hot for my bare feet and diving every so often into the clear cool water and the feeling of swimming naked, free and completely elemental with nature. You can’t recreate those first times all you can do is drink it in at the time and savour the memory.

I found Mykonos sufficiently gay for my liking. There’s gay bars in the town and the gay beach at Elia and it’s very mixed in with straight people everywhere. The feeling is relaxed quite hedonistic and inclusive. The prices were high though so it’s inclusive as far as only including those who can afford it! I’ve been a couple of times and would definitely go back. I don’t particularly want to be in an exclusively gay environment so I’d not choose something like that.

Agree. Frankfurt is boring. I recall a decent sauna but that’s all. Go for Bavaria

I know a singer / dancer who works on cruise ships. He says it’s a fabulous job for meeting people and enjoying the view from their cabin or stateroom as seems to be the name of one’s room. He says it’s very easy to spot the gay guys and those who aren’t gay but who will of course like to show off their view…even if their porthole is a bit small and difficult to open. I’ve never been cruising (not on a ship anyway) but it sounds like good fun if you’re not being chaperoned by family.

The consensus is don’t ask. I 100% agree. I’ve been in that position (literally ha ha) and it’s just so so awkward when clients misread your eagerness to please and give them a great time. I guess it’s understandable if the boundaries of the session are blurry and a sensual massage morphs into an escort style session which often happens. I had a client where the sessions got very intense and intimate. He enjoyed bottoming as part of the massage and it happened regularly although not every time - it was never obligatory on either party (which I think is better during a massage session because it needs to flow naturally and be part of massage not an act separate from it which would be the case if he’d booked an escort session). After the sessions he’d hint at meeting up outside of the client/provider dynamic although he never specifically asked me. Then one time I got a message from him that was slightly different from his usual booking request: “hi Jamie how are you? You free to come to mine sometime next week for a massage and fun?” I’d always seen him previously at my studio. I knew what he was angling for so I replied “hi xx, yes can do, what day works for you and how long would you like?”. Putting a duration on it would imply it’s a paid session and indeed he inferred it as intended because he came back with “not sure what day I can do yet, I’ll let you know” and I never heard from him or saw him again …. Clients: you’re booking a paid session with someone who does sex work. Whether it’s massage or escort service the understanding is that there’s going to be some kind of sexual activity in exchange for money. To make the session work better everyone suspends belief for the moment that were it not for money the situation wouldn’t be happening. The provider, having done that many times is really good at it (that’s why they do the job). So good in fact that the client finds it difficult to switch back to reality after the session and actually starts to think “was it real? He seemed to be really into me”. The provider thinks “he enjoyed that, he’ll book again, now what shall I have for lunch…”. It sounds like you found a great provider who really cares about your enjoyment of the session. Don’t ruin it by changing the dynamic. If you’re looking for free hookups don’t even think about it. It will annoy the hell out of him. If you want a relationship let him initiate it.

Yes, you can’t solicit on the street or run a brothel for example and advertising it is very restricted but there’s no general law against selling sexual services. In other European countries it’s even less restrictive, for example Germany where it’s legal to run brothels. The problem is people, mainly women get trafficked to work in the industry and are dreadfully exploited.

Interestingly although this seems a reasonable assumption there are instances where undercover cops have gone a lot further than a French kiss. The example is undercover cops in the UK who were infiltrating militant animal rights groups and other such organisations. In those instances the police infiltrated these groups over many years and even had relationships and children with women in the group. Quite unbelievable the extent to which they went to remain undercover. Of course sex work is legal in the UK (within certain parameters) so there’s no risk of being caught in a sting here in that respect. Buy without worry! But if you’re thinking of getting involved with subversive activities then beware because the cops are clearly very dedicated.

Yes his question hasn’t really been answered much. He’s most welcome to visit me. But I’m in London 🙂. For me the age of the client is immaterial (21 and above) what matters most is their demeanour. I’m no longer a spring chicken so I rather think the client might be more discerning of my age than me of theirs!!

I saw a client recently who was I guess around 65. He told me he specifically chose guys who said they welcomed all ages, or who he inferred from their advertising that that would be the case, which he said was the reason he chose me. He told me some guys have that look of disappointment when they first see him and that kills the mood for him which I found understandable. It’s that first impression that matters for him.

Always anxious about accidents if I bottom for a long time, especially if the position changes regularly. If I'm shooting porn then it’s ok because you can stop and start.

Be comfortable with the top before you think about positions. Once you find a guy you like and trust I agree with @misterhumphriesthat straddling him is best because you’re in control of the depth and angle and pace. Before long you’ll be on your back with your legs over his shoulders and begging for him to go harder🤪. I prefer to top guys like that because I can see their expressions as it goes in and kissing is possible.

I only work with guys I know. If a client asks me to arrange another guy I ask the client if he has a preference as to type and then I sort it all out with the other guy. There’s about 6 or 7 guys I’ve worked with who I know are good and who are professional, respectful and will stick to the brief. If the client wants us to interact together that’s fine, I then select the right guy. Usually though it’s 99% focus on the client. I get the other guys rate, add it to mine and quote the client the combined rate and afterwards the client pays me and I settle with the other guy. It’s simple and easy for the client. That’s what most people want: 2 guys who work well together, will do what the client wants, without drama and with a straightforward way to pay.

23 activities! I feel like some clients would have a clip board and tick each one off as it was completed to ensure they got value: At the end… me “how would you like to pay, it’s £735.23”. Client “oh…I didn’t get the rimming”. Me “ah ok I’ll deduct £40”. Client “and the cum in mouth was a little short on volume”. Me “well you had the breeding so…”. Client “ah…I thought you faked that” Me “ok let’s just say pay what you think it was worth” No, complicated menu options are not something I like to do. The price is agreed before the session and so are the limits. If it goes beyond the pre agreed limits that’s on me.